79073-82469

^ ☆スピードキャッシング
79073 [otokuna_cash] ☆お急ぎでしたら☆

^ lcd
79074 [yaoyao ansoz] This is a multi-part message in MIME format

^ Gtk2: stange problem with notebook ?
79075 [newsgroup bo] I have girc.rb and function.rb
79088 [g intersect-] ... snip ...
79089 [non tulauras] thanks a lot !

^ Does Ruby 1.8.0 improve in file I/O speed and pattern match speed ?
79081 [LeiWENG moto] I'm using ruby 1.6.8 (2002-12-24) [i586-mswin32] and find file I/O too slow. Is ruby 1.8.0 faster? Some one in the list said speed is quite dependant on how ruby is compiled. Is that true?
79099 [thomass delt] For IO ruby 1.8.0 is significantly faster than 1.6.8: My I/O intensive

^ Zbxm, E-mail ミナ ハヒタ フタ 095*7499211yAxBvhIIQ
79092 [chrisjp igat] a1RDyOuRz27xOQCgV5P0TTN1t

^ regexp warning in String.split?
79103 [chrismo clab] irb(main):001:0> 'a,b'.split(',')
+ 79104 [B.Candler po] 'a => b'.split(/ => /)
| 79106 [dblack super] It's more that the behavior has changed; actually now it doesn't
+ 79105 [dblack super] In older Rubies, I believe that any string longer than one character,

^ Main page for RDoc
79109 [B.Candler po] OK, I'm probably being stupid here, but I'd appreciate being put right.
+ 79115 [lyle users.s] I think that by default, RDoc only processes the *.rb files it sees. So
+ 82362 [lyle users.s] I think that by default, RDoc only processes the *.rb files it sees. So
  79116 [B.Candler po] Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. That misses EXAMPLE.rb, so
  + 79118 [Dave PragPro] Have a look at web/upload.sh for the command I issue to generate the
  | + 79128 [B.Candler po] Actually not important to me now, I discovered that my RD-like comments at
  | | 79172 [gsinclair so] That's usually the case.  If you just so happen to write a program to
  | + 79134 [hgs dmu.ac.u] The =begin,  =end can be followed by a string.  What about
  | + 79139 [B.Candler po] Thanks - found it at
  + 79119 [lyle users.s] Don't know, you probably need to ask Dave (Thomas) about that one.
  + 82363 [lyle users.s] Don't know, you probably need to ask Dave (Thomas) about that one.
    82469 [Dave PragPro] No, there isn't - at the time, there was a lot of rd documentation out

^ jed ruby.sl
79110 [kh.wild wico] i worked a bit over the ruby.sl

^ Two different CGI classes in stdlib?
79114 [wew williamw] I'm helping to RDoc stdlib for the ruby-doc project.  I
79130 [matz ruby-la] cgi-lib is obsoleted.  It should be fade away in the future.

^ Help with IO Code
79120 [gedb01 yahoo] I'm working through "Programming Ruby - The Pragmatic
+ 79121 [decoux moulo] Well, the problem is that Net::HTTP#get has changed between 1.6
+ 79122 [hal9000 hype] That's an issue with the net/http code changing...
  79126 [gedb01 yahoo] Wow, you guys are fast!
  79129 [hal9000 hype] That's probably still the best online reference.

^ AWARD NOTIFICATION
79125 [primitivasll] C/GUZMAN EL BUENO,137

^ [ANN] The FreeRIDE Project Wiki has moved to RubyForge
79131 [curt hibbs.c] We've Moved!
79180 [mikkelfj-ant] What is the backup strategy on RubyForge?
79183 [tom infoethe] A very good question.  We do backups via an rsync every six hours with
+ 79184 [tom infoethe] Actually, I should say, this document is in the support project's Doc
| 79254 [gsinclair so] Gavin
| 79294 [tom infoethe] Ah, the meta refresh element... it's a good 'un.
+ 79189 [mikkelfj-ant] This looks nice and affordable - perhaps I should get me such a backup
  79190 [tom infoethe] Yup, it's pretty nifty - the rsync thing works quite well.

^ Forcing endianness when packing signed values
79136 [lucsky mac.c] Greetings,

^ list of Ruby capable text editors?
79142 [crf sbox.tu-] short question: is there somewhere a comprehensive list of Ruby
+ 79144 [rodrigo.berm] I am still using the old glimmer, I created  my own ruby
+ 79145 [ben thingmag] C'mon... try Emacs/XEmacs...  You know you want to...
| + 79177 [B.Candler po] No, I don't think he wants to... life is too short :-)
| | + 79181 [denshimeiru-] info works even without a browser. Use zless (vi-like keystrokes).
| | | 79194 [B.Candler po] Sure, it's marked-up text and can be read directly. (You can read manpage
| | | 79237 [martindemell] martin
| | + 79210 [ben thingmag] In Emacs
| |   79260 [kero chello.] ^X I
| + 79182 [ jupp gmx.de] Saluton!
| + 79186 [usenet andre] I'm using XEmacs for Ruby editing, but it seems that I can't get the
|   + 79187 [denshimeiru-] I'm using elvis and vim.
|   | 79193 [batsman.geo ] [nit-picking]
|   | 79205 [denshimeiru-] Oops... that's what I get for making the "simplest possible example".
|   + 79211 [ben thingmag] Hmm, it works for me.  If you can't get it working we can talk offline
|     79232 [usenet andre] I found the answer in <http://www.ruby-talk.org/blade/40011>. For some
|     79238 [usenet andre] No, that still didn't work. I found the final solution in
+ 79148 [cyclists nc.] Kate has very good Ruby syntax highlighting and is a pretty good
| 79149 [dcarrera mat] From memmory: Vim, Emacs, Anjuta (www.anjuta.org), and Kate.
| + 79150 [dcarrera mat] Daniel Carrera, Math PhD student at UMD.  PGP KeyID: 9AF77A88
| + 79151 [djd15 po.cwr] You might look at jEdit as well (www.jedit.org).
+ 79154 [alwagner tca] Yes, I noted the text terminal qualification.  But I still like Scite
+ 79162 [maillist bes] ...
+ 79176 [martindemell] Please add any you find missing.
  79227 [crf sbox.tu-] that's what I was looking for

^ ASSISTANCE
79146 [bennard.will] Dear

^ syck compiling error on HPUX - aCC
79158 [rodrigo.berm] I am getting the following error when compiling ruby-1.8
79159 [ruby-talk wh] On Friday 15 August 2003 05:45 pm, Bermejo, Rodrigo \(GEAE, Foreign National\)
79389 [rodrigo.berm] After syck.h patched

^ ASSISTANCE
79160 [jjjude_ofoka] 40 WOODALE ST.

^ ASSISTANCE
79163 [jjjude_ofoka] 40 WOODALE ST.

^ postgres
79165 [kdresner cs.] I'm trying to access a PostgreSQL database on my machine, however, I get
79309 [philipp.ott ] Most of the times we are experiencing such problems the following

^ rescue exception
79166 [xrfang hotma] I had a question about exception in ruby.
79173 [austin halos] Descendants of StandardError, IIRC.
79174 [xrfang hotma] Thank you Austin.

^ [OT] IRC clients for Mac OS X?
79168 [lyle knology] Sorry for this off-topic post. Am trying to find a good (free) IRC
+ 79169 [aredridel nb] X-Chat for Aqua.
| 80355 [tym NOSPAMsy] ...
+ 79268 [roberto REMO] [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
+ 79273 [chris m-audi] keywords=irc&os=macosx&button.x=0&button.y=0&order=date

^ [OT] Re: postgres
79179 [d.borodaenko] Not necessarily. What's in your pg_hba.conf and pg_ident.conf?
79200 [kdresner cs.] # TYPE  DATABASE    USER        IP-ADDRESS        IP-MASK
79201 [tom infoethe] Hm.  Does your postgres startup command have a "-i" in it somewhere?
79202 [kdresner cs.] It doesn't appear to.  ps aux | grep postgresql doesn't show anything
+ 79204 [tom infoethe] You might try adding a "-i" to the "postmaster start" command.  That'll
+ 79206 [decoux moulo] it will depend on your version of PostgreSQL, probably you have 7.3.4 in

^ FOREIGN PARTNER NEEDED
79185 [ericnkomo ne] This is a multi-part message in MIME format

^ Your Assistance
79188 [jameskabila ] Madrid Spain

^ Newbie Q: Data encapsulation with Ruby
79192 [mccramer s.n] as a beginner in C++ I learned that one advantage of OOP over the
+ 79195 [dblack super] Welcome to Ruby!
| + 79196 [djd15 po.cwr] I'd add that in Java, you "shouldn't" (by OO principles), make your data
| | + 79197 [batsman.geo ] They can also use instance_eval, or add singleton methods to the object.
| | | 79199 [dblack super] The one sort of "innocent" area where the Ruby attribute conventions
| | | 79208 [mccramer s.n] Ooopps.....the newbie's nightmare becomes reality.
| | | 79215 [djd15 po.cwr] Well, I think the big reason for the above problem in this case is that
| | | + 79253 [gsinclair so] Or in Java.  Strings are immutable, but Lists, etc., are not
| | | + 79311 [bjsp123 imap] I agree that you *could* have the same problem in CD++.
| | + 79207 [mccramer s.n] That is exactly what I thought....
| |   79218 [djd15 po.cwr] Okay, I see where the confusion is.
| + 79209 [mccramer s.n] Yes...
|   + 79212 [dblack super] You're not setting it with attr_accessor; you're using attr_accessor
|   + 79213 [hal9000 hype] I'll make some comments. Maybe we can make things
|   + 79223 [Dave PragPro] Attributes are methods which give you access to instance variables. As
|   | + 79239 [code joechen] Once again, Dave Thomas hits the nail on the head.  The reason attr_reader
|   | | 79248 [dblack super] Ruby also has the #private method (referred to wrongly by me, earlier,
|   | + 79249 [dblack super] I'm finding this thread interesting enough that I shall risk (a)
|   |   79252 [mgarriss ear] I don't think it's 'too mushy.'  One could argue that Ruby's flexibility
|   |   + 79259 [code joechen] Interesting discussion!
|   |   + 79266 [dblack super] Just to clarify: I was questioning the mushiness of my description, not
|   + 79230 [mwilson13 co] I think you're raising a question about what OOP really is,
+ 79198 [mikkelfj-ant] well yes - some advanced programmers would claim that encapsulation is

^ Your Assistance
79203 [jameskabila ] Madrid Spain

^ spawning a process
79216 [kdresner cs.] I'm looking through the Ruby documentation and I'm trying to find an
+ 79219 [hal9000 hype] I suppose that depends in part on what OS you're on
| + 79221 [kdresner cs.] I'm using Debian GNU/Linux, and I want to use mpg123 and ogg123.
| + 79222 [armin xss.de] Alternatively, if stuck on Windows, experiment with non-MS-compiled
+ 79220 [rpav users.s] pid = fork {
+ 79224 [B.Candler po] pid = fork {
| 79225 [B.Candler po] Oh, beware that the child will share stdin / stdout / stderr with your main
+ 79247 [mwilson13 co] In addition to all of the other responses you've received, Ruby's Shell
+ 79360 [drbrain segm] It allows you to play/stop, etc mpg123/321, and is pretty easy to follow

^ opengl: What happened to GetString?
79226 [mail.in.the ] GL.GetString( GL::VERSION)
+ 79231 [mail.in.the ] i always have a feeling that there's nobody programming opengl on this
| 79233 [vjoel PATH.B] I use opengl a bit (in the context of fxruby), but I have no experience
| + 79313 [hgs dmu.ac.u] Going by my searches for opengl examples in ruby on the web: no
| + 79332 [james lazyat] i'm an OpenGL user, and i've used it fairly extensively with Ruby on
+ 79235 [zzuvz aon.at] on a win2k os, ruby version 180-10
| 79267 [mail.in.the ] maybe my OpenGL version is broken...
+ 79331 [james lazyat] with Ruby 1.8.0 on MacOS X ruby actually Bus Error-dies with this...
+ 79355 [pbrannan atd] 3.4 Why does glGetString() always return NULL?

^ rubynet-announce Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4
79228 [rubynet-anno] Send rubynet-announce mailing list submissions to

^ [RCR] Dir.recurse
79229 [invalid inva] I think it'd be useful (and worthwhile) to have a Dir.recurse method.
+ 79274 [volker_grabs] I don't know why, but this way the pattern looks more readable to me :)
+ 79289 [mwilson13 co] You might check out find (in the standard distribution) and find2
| 79401 [invalid inva] Indeed it does. I wasn't aware of that module, so thanks to you and
+ 79391 [rz linux-m68] Did you see the "find" module? Should be able to do all this
+ 80808 [greg puyo.cj] I totally agree. I've written one and use it in several scripts for

^ why not pod?
79234 [wybo servaly] Is there a good reason why ruby has its own format for embedded
+ 79257 [bkhl elektru] How about
+ 80011 [austin halos] I don't even use =begin/=end, preferring RDoc comments. I've always thought

^ fork and modifying variables inside the new process
79240 [kdresner cs.] irb(main):001:0> a = true
79242 [mgarriss ear] Fork creates a whole new heavy process.  I think you are looking for
79243 [kdresner cs.] The problem is that I want to call exec inside the new process, as well
79244 [kdresner cs.] Actually it turns out I don't need that, I'm ok.

^ What happened to keyword arguments for 1.8?
79246 [david loudth] "Some languages feature ``keyword arguments''---that is, instead of
+ 79285 [ruby-talk wh] * named arguments like foo(nation:="german") or foo(nation: "german").
+ 79291 [gsinclair so] If you're writing some code that would benefit from keyword arguments,
+ 79301 [matz ruby-la] Not in 1.8.  There are more issues to consider.  The experiment will

^ Rite/Ruby2.0 & Ruby vs OCaml
79250 [prosys chart] I'm new here, and I hope I don't offend anyone by mentioning a
+ 79251 [james_b neur] Not at all. We (some of us, at least) encourage it.
+ 79255 [rich lithino] I have no formal programming background - so my experience won't be the case
| + 79258 [mgarriss ear] I love Ruby, but in defence of C++ I have to say the there is nothing
| | + 79307 [erik terpnet] Is there an OCaml O'Reilly book? I can not find it. Can you provide a link?
| | | 79338 [flori nixe.p] The book has only been published in French so far, the title is
| | | 79341 [erik terpnet] Thanks!
| | + 79356 [pbrannan atd] The OP never mentioned C++.  I'm unclear as to why you feel C++ needs to
| | | 79359 [curt hibbs.c] In C++ I once tried to extend the STL string template for a very specific,
| | + 79951 [hanzspam yah] But metaprogramming in C++ is a side-effect of the template
| |   80116 [jason_watkin] OCaml is a fine language, but it certainly is not as fun as ruby... unless
| |   + 80142 [B.Candler po] I'm not sure that even functional languages geeks would approve of OCaml. I
| |   | + 80148 [msparshatt y] Unless I'm mistaken n + sum(n-1) isn't a tail call since it has to add n to
| |   | | 80152 [B.Candler po] Ah, thank you, and sorry for exposing my ignorance!
| |   | | + 80153 [Ephaeton gmx] a) the ocaml version gives the right answer, too if you
| |   | | | 80155 [Ephaeton gmx] *sigh* sorry. I've changed that to
| |   | | | 80172 [B.Candler po] Cheers. And sorry I posted a buggy Ruby version too :-)
| |   | | + 80154 [Ephaeton gmx] 1+2+3+4 = 10.
| |   | | + 80163 [ben thingmag] I know this is only half-serious, but this is a major reason why I think
| |   | | + 80389 [jim freeze.o] Hmm, I'm sitting here with a Sun box and a Linux box and
| |   | |   80491 [B.Candler po] Should the first one read "Linux" not "Ruby" ?
| |   | |   80506 [jim freeze.o] Yeah, duh. #sub(/Ruby/,"Linux")
| |   | |   + 80531 [Ephaeton gmx] I showed even a slower time without any comment about my hardware,
| |   | |   + 80786 [slumos yahoo] $ time ruby tail   # blind gcc compile
| |   | |     80813 [jim freeze.o] What do you mean wrong Sun?
| |   | + 80150 [Ephaeton gmx] let sum n =
| |   + 80209 [rc vaccapern] Have you looked at D - http://www.digitalmars.com/d/
| |   + 80262 [hanzspam yah] I didn't really mean to say that template metaprogramming is useless.
| + 79306 [finrod_felag] 8-< snip
+ 79256 [chris m-audi] Last I checked, the person running that site had left it frozen in
+ 79269 [mikkelfj-ant] Ruby will be faster as it matures, but it will not give you real
| 79747 [nospam4.me o] Thank you all so much for your informative comments.  I saved a
| + 79753 [batsman.geo ] Rite will have a VM and run bytecode.
| | + 79793 [ben thingmag] Hmm, will this affect the startup time?  My understanding is that one of
| | | + 79801 [djd15 po.cwr] I think the main reason Java startup is slow is that it has to load
| | | + 79861 [mikkelfj-ant] No bytecode should not slow things down. Ruby har a decent sized runtime
| | |   79866 [achou tealea] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
| | + 79800 [kdresner cs.] I like the interpreter.
| |   + 79830 [surrender_it] think it this way: you code in the usual way, cause your code can be
| |   | 79843 [kdresner cs.] But I thought that the interpreter was being dumped...
| |   | 79845 [hal9000 hype] Not sure. I'd like to think bytecode compilation will
| |   | 79851 [batsman.geo ] It wouldn't make sense to keep an AST walker, since that would
| |   | 79857 [kdresner cs.] Ahh, ok.  I see.  So I can still just put #!/usr/bin/env ruby at the top
| |   + 79854 [lyle users.s] Not sure, but I suspect that what batsman meant is that the current
| + 79755 [mikkelfj-ant] thanks
|   79803 [djd15 po.cwr] This always confuses me a bit.  Is the reason for needing to use C that
|   79855 [mikkelfj-ant] Not at all. The reason is that any other language (almost) that somehow link
+ 80044 [buggs-ruby s] FWIW, i tried some of the shoutout benchmarks
  + 80056 [mikkelfj-ant] "Andreas Hauser" <buggs-ruby@splashground.de> skrev i en meddelelse
  + 80057 [mikkelfj-ant] "Andreas Hauser" <buggs-ruby@splashground.de> skrev i en meddelelse
  + 80091 [rz linux-m68] on those systems I tried (x86, m68k) the ocaml version is faster.
    80098 [Ephaeton gmx] C != gcc.
    + 80101 [joe vpop.net] This has me thinking... would ruby programs run faster if ruby was
    + 80489 [rz linux-m68] just for the record, the speed diff is due to use of registers for