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68436-69390 subjects 68816-72666

^ Debugger
68613 [seth cql.com] Does anyone have any information about the problems I've been experiencing with the debugger?  This problem was fixed in 1.8 a while back but has managed to get "unfixed".  The problem is that the debugger never stops at a breakpoint.
68616 [decoux moulo] Can you give an example ?
68647 [seth cql.com] I works with a trivial test program but not with a program of any size.  Try a program that uses threads.
68684 [decoux moulo] Well, perhaps it's best if you can give a small program which illustrate

^ Is Binary install of Ruby possible on Unix?
68620 [jim freeze.o] Is it possible to create a binary install for ruby on unix.

^ docs on implementation of ruby ?
68621 [Ruben.Vandeg] Are there any docs (online resources, books) available in english on the

^ To inherit or to include? That is the question.
68623 [jim freeze.o] I've been poking around the mailing list looking for
+ 68627 [bob.news gmx] "Jim Freeze" <jim@freeze.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| + 68631 [B.Candler po] Perhaps not, but you probably wanted to inherit all the scaffolding around
| + 68655 [ptkwt shell1] But this isn't quite true.  You can create/manipulate instance variables
|   68739 [bob.news gmx] "Phil Tomson" <ptkwt@shell1.aracnet.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
|   68748 [batsman.geo ] ???
+ 68630 [B.Candler po] Well, you just do what feels right :-)
+ 68634 [batsman.geo ] matz already stated that inheritance in Ruby is little more than
+ 68635 [michael_s_ca] The OO hardcore will tell you to differentiate not based on
+ 68636 [jason jvoege] Also see http://www.ruby-talk.org/37771 where Paul Brannan explains to
+ 68656 [austin halos] Module

^ Relocatable install patch
68624 [mike wyer.or] This follows on from my "Tricky install question" earlier. This patch
68625 [mike wyer.or] First problem: it fails for ext/
68626 [jim freeze.o] This is in the right direction for what I need, a binary install.
68637 [mike wyer.or] So the code always expects to run from /onA/foo even though it is being

^ New install patch
68638 [mike wyer.or] Ok,
+ 68639 [mike wyer.or] Doh! Here's the patch (it still contains some debugging code, so it's a
+ 68644 [jim freeze.o] I hope so. It is a real problem when trying to do a binary

^ zombies and defunct processes
68642 [lists debona] I'm running a series of dependant events, much like a makefile. I make
68782 [nobu.nokada ] Kernel#system always waits the child process, so no zombie

^ distributing a bit of Ruby
68645 [gabelzinge h] I use Ruby Version 1.6.7 (2002-03-01) [i586-mswin32]

^ Patch for bug in sprintf
68651 [wkb airmail.] All,
68821 [matz ruby-la] Thank you for finding and fixing a bug.  How great the open source way.

^ [OT] Re: Suggestion for Ruby Weekly News
68652 [billk cts.co] ;-D  Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day   ...!  :)

^ reading from $stdout ???
68657 ["meinrad is it possible to trap everything that was written to the $stdout by
+ 68658 [lists debona] require 'open3'
| 68659 ["meinrad thanks for reply, but ...
+ 68660 [B.Candler po] simple = `ls`
  68673 [meinrad.rech] thanks brian, that sounds good. but is very complicated for capturing
  68680 [B.Candler po] $defout = File.open("log.txt","w")
  68682 [decoux moulo] $stdout = File.open("log.txt","w")
  68691 [meinrad.rech] so it seems to me, that it is necessary to go the long and slowly way
  + 68692 [decoux moulo] I don't understand, sorry : you use system() this mean that the command is
  + 68698 [billk cts.co] I'm still not quite sure I'm clear on what you're trying to do

^ =?gb2312?q?=D5=C5=B9=FA=C8=D9=BE=AB=D1=A1=B5=E7=D3=B0=CF=C2=D4=D8?=
68661 [movie 263.co] This is a multi-part message in MIME format

^ Why doesn't the dbi install work?
68663 [starflow7 at] I downloaded dbi and extracted it into c:\ruby-dbi-all. (I'm running

^ Modelling quantum computation
68664 [ptkwt shell1] Maybe this is from the 'way out there' department.... or maybe it'll be
68667 [sdate everes] That will be quool !

^ How to follow symlinks to directories?
68666 [pNOeterSPAM4] Find#find automatically follows symbolic links to real files but
68671 [B.Candler po] The Unix command-line find has a '-follow' option.

^ Ruby-gtk on windows/mingw?
68668 [coma_killen ] I'd like to try Ruby GTK on windows with mingw. I have
68669 [gour mail.in] I installed ruby-gtk2 with MinGW & MSYS and wanted to write small HOWTO

^ Strangeness in Find.find
68672 [B.Candler po] I was just looking at lib/ruby/1.8/find.rb and I am stumped by the marked
68676 [kentda stud.] I do not think it makes a new array. It uses the same array object.
68678 [B.Candler po] self.doh!
68681 [kentda stud.] Perhaps not, but what about when it is used with a block, into which the
68685 [B.Candler po] Yep, good point. It could have done

^ Win32 DLL and Ruby
68688 [srijit yahoo] I am learning Ruby. Though Ruby is a neat and feature rich language it
+ 68696 [sdate everes] Very true with respect to WIN32API :-(
+ 68697 [james_b neur] Yes and no.  There are some very good Ruby books and a growing
+ 68750 [jasa dalton.] I've been doing some C extension code in Ruby recently only on *Linux*.
+ 68752 [nobu.nokada ] Win32API doesn't support float nor double.  You need DL.

^ PostgresSQL on OS X
68700 [jasonfax hot] Have there been other successful installations on OS X?  I'm

^ where is the article with chat-sample or similar...?
68702 [jonnypichler] i encountered an article in some online-journal (or similar thing) some time
68812 [botp delmont] nt%22&btnG=Google+Search

^ OOPS - i just found it
68703 [jonnypichler] i just found it.

^ Call for standardised package installation procedure
68707 [google tompa] I'm helping maintain Ruby and Ruby packages in Gentoo Linux.
+ 68708 [ oct zoy.org] My only RAA submission is 8 times smaller than the zipped installer and
| 68710 [surrender_it] possibly we could just add a flag like "setup.rb-instalable" . It seem
+ 68712 [james jamesb] Is it that all packages need to use the same installation code, or that they
| + 68717 [jj5412 earth] ruby -rcran -e shell
| | + 68720 [B.Candler po] Don't dream too hard. I presume you are alluding to the CPAN command-line
| | | 68988 [pabs pablotr] [snipped]
| | | 68995 [B.Candler po] Some packages do this. Others do
| | | 69015 [austin halos] And the initial focus should be on the "native" Pure-Ruby package
| | + 68738 [google tompa] As I package maintainer I don't want this (although I have no problem
| |   + 68779 [austin halos] Doesn't help those of us who choose not to use Gentoo or Debian. (I
| |   | 68781 [batsman.geo ] As for me, I'd like the OS to manage everything, it does just great :-)
| |   | + 68826 [gsinclair so] Well, *I* prefer my OS to stick to managing hardware, processes, etc.
| |   | | + 68829 [B.Candler po] I sometimes use FreeBSD ports to install Perl modules, where the port
| |   | | | 68833 [gsinclair so] The OS package management system will never serve all needs, so if
| |   | | | + 68841 [gsinclair so] In fact, YAML and FreePAN are encouraging examples of what can be
| |   | | | + 68859 [batsman.geo ] I'd appreciate if you gave one need impossible to satisfy with the
| |   | | | | 68873 [billk cts.co] For my part, I'm currently doing Ruby on Windows, Linux, and
| |   | | | | + 68876 [emschwar pob] AIUI, the point is to have an intermediate layer that takes care of
| |   | | | | | + 68877 [billk cts.co] Ah.  OK, thanks.... In that case, I propose that the first
| |   | | | | | | 68903 [batsman.geo ] Thanks to Eric Schwartz for summarizing my proposal so clearly :)
| |   | | | | | + 68933 [austin halos] The neutral layer should include a "native" packaging format (a la
| |   | | | | + 68907 [batsman.geo ] Still waiting for a reply to this part :-)
| |   | | | | + 69100 [jj5412 earth] Speaking of which, a really groovy installer would fix the line endings
| |   | | | + 69420 [rasputin lit] Google for BSDPAN sometime - a year or so back the FreeBSd crowd found a way to
| |   | | |   69498 [gsinclair so] There's sometimes an undercurrent of "but we've got to do our own
| |   | | |   69507 [rasputin ido] Well, I am halfway through the second Pickaxe chapter, so a lot of this is over my head at
| |   | | + 68849 [batsman.geo ] I was thinking in terms of the extensive definition of OS, as not only the
| |   | | | + 68898 [damphyr free] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
| |   | | | | 68909 [batsman.geo ] Isn't this what setup.rb/install.rb do right now?
| |   | | | + 68935 [sroberts uni] I do.
| |   | | + 68993 [pabs pablotr] [snipped]
| |   | + 68984 [ee opera.com] 1) Install system wide (/usr/local/lib/ruby/something)
| |   + 68802 [jj5412 earth] ruby -rcran -e shell
| + 68729 [hal9000 hype] I'll address these issues just from
| + 68756 [chrismo clab] available
| + 68769 [ser germane-] This is all very Ruby-oriented.  The *best* thing, for users, is that
|   + 68770 [decoux moulo] Well, I hope that you know that RAA update is just a FORM with a CGI
|   | 68867 [ser germane-] Yeah.  That's a terrible (programmatic) interface, though.
|   + 68772 [chrismo clab] sers.sourceforge.net
|   + 68789 [batsman.geo ] agree wholeheartly
|     68824 [gsinclair so] This sort of topic comes up every now and then, and generates some
|     + 68835 [hal9000 hype] I just remembered why I never got deeply into this.
|     | 68840 [hal9000 hype] Actually (to reply to myself -- sorry) I'm not sure
|     | 68842 [gsinclair so] I have, albeit under Cygwin.  Do you have the latest raa-install?
|     + 68902 [ptkwt shell1] True. raa-install isn't perfect, but it exists now and in most cases it
+ 68743 [damphyr free] Well I've gone through the whole thread and put some points together
+ 68773 [cyclists nc.] I 100% agree, and I am using install.rb for RMagick, but I don't think

^ Urgent/Assistance
68711 [victoria_gue] Dear Sir,

^ 2 in [1,2,3] -> true
68714 [meinrad.rech] i know
68715 [batsman.geo ] batsman@kodos:/tmp$ expand -t2  b.rb
68719 [meinrad.rech] creative solution.

^ Problems building 1.8
68718 [austin halos] I'm trying to build the latest CVS version of 1.8 (checked out about

^ Ruby as a Database Development language?
68721 [flxkid teche] I have a question that requires a bit of background that I hope some
+ 68722 [B.Candler po] I can answer about Oracle: you have a choice of two bindings. The package
+ 68723 [surrender_it] <ot>
+ 68733 [flxkid teche] Thanx all for the replies so far.  More opinions definitely welcome...
| 68775 [ptkwt shell1] No commercial companies that I know of.  There's the semi-annual,
+ 68734 [feldt ce.cha] On GUI's: IMHO, FXRuby is the most mature (especially for Windows since
+ 68947 [flxkid teche] Thanx all for the advice so far.  I actually used Ruby for something

^ Mutexes end critical sections?
68726 [tcfelker mtc] I was looking at threads.rb for Ruby 1.6, and I noticed that Mutex,
68731 [matz ruby-la] I know.  Thread.critical is for internal use.  Don't use it unless you
68742 [bob.news gmx] Matz,
+ 68746 [batsman.geo ] Seems matz said it'd be in Rite during RubyConf 2002. See [54881].
+ 68747 [matz ruby-la] Implementing Mutex, etc. with C?  Perhaps.  Somebody got to take the
  68757 [billk cts.co] Another place to look might be the boost C++ libraries[1], which

^ [OT] Re: 2 in [1,2,3] -> true
68728 [batsman.geo ] Sure, the cost of the electrons hitting your screen to draw the dot

^ Re: Call for standardized package installation procedure
68730 [james_b neur] I'm not so sure that every Ruby newbie knows where
68732 [ptkwt shell1] Why do we have to copy 'setup.rb' or 'install.rb' at all?  Why isn't there
+ 68737 [damphyr free] .......Lots of stufff....many KBs.......
+ 68771 [james_b neur] I tend to agree.  After I posted my quickie code I started thinking
  68787 [ahoward fsl.] i posted some code a while back which i have been using personally for that
  + 68825 [gsinclair so] What about packages that contain lots of files?  Just a little
  | 68851 [batsman.geo ] They could be diverted on installation to some other dir.
  + 68865 [ser germane-] Amen, but this isn't a new request.  Interestingly, I couldn't find an
    68870 [batsman.geo ] That isn't realistic: at the point somebody writes A he cannot know that

^ making module 'tk' work on mac os x
68744 [digibren mac] I'm trying to use the tk module with tcl and tk I've compiled against
68998 [jean-francoi] Just a question: can ruby be linked directly with the apple's tcl ?

^ Ruby Weekly News
68745 [Dave Pragmat] Ruby Weekly News: 04/07/2003

^ キャッシングキャンペーン
68749 [finanncelike] 特別融資キャンペーン実施中

^ Re: Call for standardised installation procedure -> an example & suggestion
68758 [sroberts uni] I'd like to echo the sentiment that even the simplest thing needs an

^ ruby-dev summary  19944 - 19957
68760 [ksaito uranu] This is a summary of ruby-dev mailing list for last week.
+ 68761 [michael_s_ca] Ick.  Any reason why the standard "if '-' occurs as the first or last
+ 68762 [B.Candler po] The way I parse regexps in my brain is the way I have been conditioned
| + 68768 [ahoward fsl.] i'm with brian on this - those of us who've been converting old lex/perl
| | 68776 [ptkwt shell1] Well said.  I agree completely.  Please do not break backward
| + 68807 [matz ruby-la] It does (and will) works so in Ruby too.  The dash in the character
| | + 68817 [B.Candler po] "2) A literal '-' in a character class should be escaped too if the
| | + 68911 [ jupp gmx.de] Saluton!
| + 68823 [ jupp gmx.de] Saluton!
+ 68763 [dave pragpro] Please, please reconsider this.
+ 68784 [akr m17n.org] No.  What should be coed as /[\[\]]/ is /[][]/.

^ a question about regexp
68764 [ben.thomas w] I'm trying to make the following code works but I don't know how...
+ 68765 [decoux moulo] Well, $~ is a local, and thread local variable and perhaps in your case it
| 68767 [nobu.nokada ] You can assign a MatchData to $~ and use $& and so on, but I
+ 68819 [bob.news gmx] I'd say it should read

^ What about irbsh?
68766 [erik terpnet] Could someone please tell something about irbsh?

^ exit status from popen3
68774 [lists debona] For some reason the code I had posted earlier did not always work
+ 68778 [lists debona] I'd like to add that the exit status here is ALWAYS 255, no matter wht
+ 68785 [nobu.nokada ] Since open3 spawns grand child process, you cannot get the exit
  + 68786 [putsch mxim.] Open3.popen3 ("/some/command/to/run ; echo $? 1>&2") { ... }
  + 68788 [lists debona] Why is it spawning a grandchild process? I got rid of that and it
    68945 [nobu.nokada ] To get rid of leave defunct processes.

^ [ANN] Text::Format 0.63
68777 [austin halos] Fixed a bug where I didn't properly detect that a value could return
68795 [mikkelfj-ant] link, explanation please
68808 [austin halos] Sorry; one of these days I'll get a template in place that has all

^ Re: exit status from popen3: popen3 bug?
68780 [lists debona] [~]$ ./popen.rb

^ Out of scope - close/finalizers
68790 [0bz63fz3m1qt] The last week I have been browsing compl.lang.ruby at google, on how to
68796 [mikkelfj-ant] but I suspect the C-API will allow you to hook into finalize.
68797 [mikkelfj-ant] alize_rb.html
68801 [0bz63fz3m1qt] def use(resource)

^ @@class variables and subclasses
68798 [rpav nwlink.] class A
+ 68799 [vjoel PATH.B] This is one approach, but it makes everything public, unlike @@index.
+ 68800 [jweirich one] Try this ...

^ Having trouble getting iconv-0.5 working on OS X
68803 [sroberts uni] $ ruby  -r iconv -e 'Iconv.iconv("iso-8859-1","utf-8", "hello")'
68806 [nobu.nokada ] I don't know about Mac OS X, but that libiconv seems

^ opinions > effort ? '1.6'.gsub!(/6/,'8') : sleep()
68804 [ahoward fsl.] rubyists-

^ Re: Having trouble getting iconv-0.5 to find a dyn lib on OS X
68809 [sroberts uni] I think so, too, but I've no idea how. The only thing I can think of is

^ Array Sutraction
68811 [jim freeze.o] Ok, this has been discussed at length previously,
+ 68813 [matz ruby-la] If you want uniq elements in the result.  1.8.0 Array#- removes
| 68814 [jim freeze.o] I'm sorry Matz, I don't understand.
| + 68815 [matz ruby-la] I defined array subtraction as
| + 68820 [bob.news gmx] "Jim Freeze" <jim@freeze.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
|   68828 [michael_s_ca] So [1, 1, 2, 2] - [2] should yield the same as [1, 1, 2, 2] - [2, 2]?
|   + 68831 [hal9000 hype] I agree. But the presence of a Set in 1.8
|   | + 68832 [michael_s_ca] I'll defer to others on the behavior (though I might still disagree),
|   | | 68834 [hal9000 hype] That's the most disturbing part to me.
|   | + 68839 [jim freeze.o] Hmm, I was not aware that an Array was not a bag.
|   |   + 68856 [vjoel PATH.B] [1, 2] != [2, 1]
|   |   + 68860 [batsman.geo ] I believe he means that
|   + 68837 [jim freeze.o] Yes. It's not really subtraction as implied by the '-' minus operator.
|     + 68847 [austin halos] I think it's more confusing when dealing with numbers than with
|     | 68852 [hal9000 hype] Hmmmmmmm.
|     | + 68861 [austin halos] I want ["one", "one", "two", "two", "two"], because they're not the
|     | + 69061 [bob.news gmx] "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
|     | + 69094 [nemo hellotr] Hmmmmmmm.
|     |   69095 [jim freeze.o] Where is the Set class in 1.8?
|     |   69111 [eban os.rim.] % ruby -v -r set -e 'p Set.new'
|     |   69112 [jim freeze.o] Thanks
|     |   69129 [nemo hellotr] Chris
|     + 68848 [marty darkor] Hmm.. there might still be some confusion there. I might expect that to
+ 68827 [djberge qwes] require "set"
  68836 [jim freeze.o] Ahh, thanks Dan. I didn't know this.
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