65574-83937

^ Ruby for Microcontrollers?
65574 [eldoed gmx.n] is there a ruby port for a microcontroller like AVR/8051/Nios? It would
65582 [wjl icecaver] I don't know about *running* Ruby on microcontrollers (I think you'd run
65679 [eldoed gmx.n] I try it.

^ Internationalization (Re: embedded docs)
65576 [brian coolna] This little sentence speaks volumes about one of the major challenges for
65577 [seth cql.com] It is more than that.  I have just written a module that already exists, and I
+ 65583 [brian coolna] Did the original module only have Japanese documentation available?  It is
| + 65595 [seth cql.com] Esperanto has been touted as a common language for over 100 years, but it has
| | + 65600 [mikkelfj-ant] Japanese.
| | | 65604 [seth cql.com] Even if it is not 100% achievable, having the docs in both languages is a
| | + 65603 [hgs dmu.ac.u] The internet may be changing that, as it makes people more aware of
| |   65628 [decoux moulo] One of these french speakers understand Ruby and C better than English and
| |   + 65629 [hgs dmu.ac.u] Yes, certainly. :-)  My point was linguistic equality.
| |   + 65637 [hal9000 hype] and
| + 65852 [ jupp gmx.de] And as far as reading written language is concerned, Japanese is the
|   65858 [brian coolna] Thank you very much, Josef!  I am interested in learning Japanese for
|   65986 [news cs.purd] You would be far better off to look for a native character set to
|   + 66059 [ jupp gmx.de] I only did suggest the program because it takes lot of training to
|   + 83881 [ jupp gmx.de] I only did suggest the program because it takes lot of training to
+ 65584 [hgs dmu.ac.u] Doesn't your example pass that test?  The documentation existed.
  65585 [brian coolna] Dude.  Esperanto?  That is ... that is to say ... I think ... I do not know if
  65588 [hgs dmu.ac.u] There seem to be many users of Esperanto, and they have a conference
  65589 [brian coolna] I've worked briefly at a company that prepared tools for translators.  My time
  + 65593 [hgs dmu.ac.u] Agreed.  That's why I suggested using two engines, and translating
  + 65612 [hal9000 hype] Esperanto easier to learn than Lojban... I think you said
  | + 65616 [brian coolna] Hmmm.  I think I have to agree with you there.  Learning an invented
  | + 66215 [hgs dmu.ac.u] These are fair questions, so I took the time to find out, with help,
  |   66222 [brian coolna] Wow.  So we could do it if we _really_ wanted to.  But do enough people
  |   66240 [batsman.geo ] If there's already not enough time in a day to write docs in English or
  |   + 66260 [brian coolna] I agree completely.  Strange thoughts wander around in my head
  |   + 66375 [ jupp gmx.de] EHLO
  |     + 66377 [mikkelfj-ant] I really do appreciate the tolerance of off-topic threads in this group.
  |     + 66390 [matt black-b] How very human centric.  I propose that the universal language for
  |     + 83937 [mikkelfj-ant] I really do appreciate the tolerance of off-topic threads in this group.
  |       + 66381 [hal9000 hype] Of course, now that you have said that... someone will
  |       | 66385 [mikkelfj-ant] Sure, but then I'd request the discussion is also be carried out in said
  |       | 66386 [dblack super] I remember having some conversations at the first RubyConf (2001),
  |       + 66398 [ jupp gmx.de] EHLO
  |         66401 [mikkelfj-ant] Yes, here all the words are in German. My point was the most Japanese
  + 65687 [B.Candler po] Incidentally there is a wonderful "I-Spy" photograph in the current edition

^ RAA Metadata
65581 [martindemell] How about an entry box on each RAA page, asking "what search keywords

^ socket problems under windows: cannot load Socket.so under windows
65590 [jkleemann pr] When trying to run the following code (excerpt) using sockets
65599 [nobu.nokada ] require 'socket'
65623 [jkleemann pr] mea culpa

^ dynamic include
65598 [timothy linu] I'm developing a program which needs to dynamically load
65602 [ptkwt shell1] include is a method on class Module and I believe that Class already
65614 [dblack candl] The include #{modname} thing will be read as "include" plus a comment,
65617 [timothy linu] Thanks Phil, that worked.
65618 [dblack candl] include Object.const_get(modname.to_s)

^ ANN: REXML 2.5.7 and 2.4.7
65601 [ser germane-] Two, two, TWO releases for the price of one!
65605 [dcarrera mat] Looks pretty neat.
65608 [paul snake.n] Looks fine in Safari, too.

^ Re: REXML 2.5.7 and 2.4.7
65607 [mikkelfj-ant] Actually I thought it looked so nice that I looked at what program you
65707 [ser germane-] If you're making a funny, it's goin' waaaay over my head.  Google?
65773 [mikkelfj-ant] Nice getting transcripts from live feed ;-)
65822 [ser germane-] The XSLT support in 6.0.2600.0000C0 is fairly conformant, just very,
+ 65827 [seth cql.com] I would be less generous to Microsoft.  I believe they deliberate deviate from
+ 65842 [mikkelfj-ant] Hmm if you are referring to the latest version, fair enough. It is also a
  65848 [mikkelfj-ant] Well - as newsreader it isn't - just look at my postings. Also I can't

^ Coding challenge: Space-separated constants
65619 [hal9000 hype] I'm issuing this challenge because I'm
+ 65621 [nobu.nokada ] What about #{}?
| 65634 [hal9000 hype] Good question. My hesitant response is no.
| 65638 [dblack candl] str = '123 4.5 "#{rand}" "and so on"'
| 65641 [hal9000 hype] Surely. As long as illegal things such as
+ 65622 [vjoel PATH.B] Inefficient, but it seems to work...
  + 65635 [hal9000 hype] Inefficient as you say, but very clever. A good
  + 65838 [hal9000 hype] [snip Joel's code]
    + 66095 [sabbyxtabby ] [snip code]
    + 83886 [sabbyxtabby ] [snip code]
      66107 [hal9000 hype] [snip code]
      66140 [sabbyxtabby ] Yay~! :)

^ OpenSSL for Ruby 0.2.0-pre0
65624 [michal rokos] After a long while, I managed to prepare preview of OpenSSL for
65631 [knu iDaemons] I tried to compile it on my FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT box and got the
+ 65636 [decoux moulo] Well, if I'm right SUSv2 define
+ 65640 [akr m17n.org] Call Time.utc, using rb_funcall.  Because mktime(&tm) - timezone may
  65648 [michal rokos] thank you all for the feedback.

^ Fetching pages with Net::HTTP
65630 [Eugene.Scrip] If I fetch index page from some site (say http://www.somesite.org/) with
65750 [ee opera.com] the open-uri package (which seem to be integrated into ruby 1.8.0)

^ [ANN] Happy Birthday, Ruby, and an announcement....
65632 [dblack candl] Dear everyone,
+ 65639 [flifson cs.u] Congrats! This is a great language and I use it as often as
+ 65642 [ahoward fsl.] are there still dns problems with this site?  i can't seem to pull it down?
| + 65643 [michael_s_ca] Working for me.
| + 65652 [chadfowler c] down?
+ 65645 [chrismo clab] This is cool. Thanks for your efforts, David.
| 65647 [chrismo clab] dedicated
| 65650 [chadfowler c] Officially, the board members are myself, David Black, and Dave Thomas.
+ 65659 [feldt ce.cha] Wow, what a great day. Something to be really proud of Matz; you're
  + 65665 [jbritt ruby-] Thanks, Matz!
  | 65674 [hal9000 hype] ruby_job_hunt.unshift "Hal Fulton"
  + 65673 [hal9000 hype] Ha! Good idea, Robert, but stand in line. ;)
    + 65676 [colinml1 exi] There is already a site which does this (it may be commercial).
    | + 65677 [hal9000 hype] I remember that. Called sourcexhange or something? I forget.
    | | 65694 [ptkwt shell1] sourcexchange went out of business a while back...
    | | 65764 [rubytalk box] I know of www.rentacoder.com ... My friend told me that it's
    | + 65678 [lennon day-r] IIRC, the site you're thinking of was indeed commercial, and fairly quickly
    |   65680 [djberge qwes] I think once Ruby Central, Inc gets tax exempt status folks could start
    |   + 65684 [vjoel PATH.B] Seems to me the small projects are going to get developed as people need
    |   | 65685 [djberge qwes] You could be right.  I was just sorta thinking out loud there.  In any case,
    |   | 65688 [vjoel PATH.B] True, and I guess "small" is pretty subjective anyway. :)
    |   + 65717 [daniel zeped] You know, I think folks need to stop thinking that way. I'm sure you remember
    |     + 65745 [djberge qwes] Damn - I knew I was gonna get called on that.  I should have phrased it
    |     + 65751 [chadfowler c] Foundation
    |       65753 [djberge qwes] In this instance, I referred toPerl mainly because I couldn't think of any
    |       + 65754 [michael_s_ca] It's also pretty easy to innovate yourself right out of the public
    |       | 65756 [chadfowler c] Agreed, as long as you aren't saying that innovation and familiarity are
    |       + 65755 [chadfowler c] to
    + 65683 [jim freeze.o] Great idea. Let me start by making a proposal. I would like

^ Debugger Not Working
65644 [seth cql.com] All,
+ 65651 [matz ruby-la] Which 1.8?  I remember 1.8.0-preview1 had that problem I already
| 65661 [seth cql.com] CVS head has the same problem.  I've installed head from last Friday.  I
| 65664 [matz ruby-la] Oops, there must be something wrong left.  Sorry.
+ 65779 [nahi keynaut] Is your bp-problem like as follows?
  65784 [seth cql.com] It is working now with line numbers.  What is the syntax for breaking at a
  65786 [nahi keynaut] Does "(filename:)method_name" not work for you?
  65790 [seth cql.com] It may, I'll try it, but it really doesn't do much good even if it does work.
  65791 [nahi keynaut] Unfortunately, you cannot set to B#method_name
  + 65792 [nobu.nokada ] What about singleton methods?
  | + 65797 [nahi keynaut] Yeah, Ruby is not like Java...
  | | 65798 [matz ruby-la] Right.
  | | 65803 [seth cql.com] But it really isn't a problem.  A fully qualified method name is unique, so I
  | + 65800 [matz ruby-la] Currently, Class:Method catch *both* class method and instance method.
  |   65804 [seth cql.com] Except that there is a bug and currently Class:Method actually catches
  + 65793 [matz ruby-la] ??  "b" command accepts classname:methodname from the beginning.
  | + 65795 [nahi keynaut] Sure.  I slipped over the line "check_break_points" from
  | + 65801 [seth cql.com] It accepts it.  But nothing happens (that is, it doesn't actually set a
  |   65807 [nahi keynaut] nakahiro@RUBY ~/test
  |   65820 [seth cql.com] You want the file name plus the class name plus dot plus the method?
  |   65869 [nahi keynaut] No.
  |   65872 [seth cql.com] What is the difference between a fully qualified class name, and
  |   65878 [nahi keynaut] In the previous example,
  |   65883 [seth cql.com] Oh, I see.
  + 65799 [seth cql.com] "in" is usually the method name, "at" is a particular line.  However, my

^ Comparing strings and integers in Test::Unit
65646 [pbrannan atd] require 'test/unit'
+ 65693 [B.Candler po] assert(a=='10', "<10><String> expected but was\n<#{a}><#{a.class}>")
+ 65796 [gsinclair so] One time when this bit me, I did the following (assuming variables

^ Euro5 le ofrece idiomas
65653 [marketing eu] Le proporcionamos una ensenza de idiomas de calidad con profesores bilings
65668 [surrender_it] is this related to the internationalization thread? ^_^
65669 [dcarrera mat] It's spam.
+ 65670 [brian coolna] Yes, but it's _international_ spam ;-)
| 65675 [hal9000 hype] Darn it, that's the second time in a week
+ 65681 [surrender_it] I was just kidding,

^ Re: DL2 issues on solaris 9, gcc 3.2
65654 [djberge qwes] Has the fix been uploaded to CVS?  I don't see it.
65657 [ttate kt.jai] Sorry, I forgot to do it.

^ ruby-dev summary 19583-19645
65655 [maki rubycol] This is the last summary of ruby-dev ML in the 1st decade :-)
66050 [martindemell] [ruby-dev:19638] [Oniguruma] Version 1.8.0

^ Threads, pipes, popen, whatever
65658 [alwagner tca] I have never before had occasion to do the following kind of problem, so
65722 [bob.news gmx] A simple solution seems to be this: Write a shell script like
65908 [mike osdn.or] $? won't work?
65913 [B.Candler po] f = IO.popen("/usr/bin/false","w")
65914 [bob.news gmx] "Brian Candler" <B.Candler@pobox.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
65915 [batsman.geo ] Nope, $? is thread local.
65925 [bob.news gmx] "Mauricio Fern嵯dez" <batsman.geo@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
65942 [batsman.geo ] Pickaxe p. 218.

^ Objectify the mersenne twister in 1.8?
65660 [feldt ce.cha] Its good news that Ruby 1.7.x and later uses the Mersenne Twister for
+ 65663 [matz ruby-la] rand(3).  Mersenne Twister was its drop-in replacement.  I don't
+ 65671 [surrender_it] <snip/>
| + 65690 [feldt ce.cha] Yes, most of the needed code is in RandomR. Needs to be integrated with
| + 65691 [matz ruby-la] I didn't know MT is insecure.  Do you have any reference?
|   + 65716 [feldt ce.cha] Most PRNG's are insecure, only a few are considered secure. Its not so
|   + 65726 [decoux moulo] Mersenne-Twister is not *CRYPTOGRAPHY* secure, see
|   + 65774 [surrender_it] it is.
|     65817 [comp.lang.ru] _ As a side note, it's an open question whether there is
|     65837 [surrender_it] <bbense+comp.lang.ruby.Feb.26.03@telemark.slac.stanford.edu> ha
|     65846 [batsman.geo ] Is reading /dev/random (under Linux) enough to assure the random numbers
|     65939 [comp.lang.ru] - - Well, any system that doesn't is probably not good enough for
|     65940 [seth cql.com] Booker,
|     65949 [comp.lang.ru] _ Please read carefully ( okay I'm terrible at proofreading my own
|     65953 [seth cql.com] On Thursday 27 February 2003 11:40 am,
+ 65672 [ptkwt shell1] This is a good idea. It would also make it easier to 'plug-in' different
+ 65689 [vjoel PATH.B] This has been on my wish list for a long time. I've been using an

^ XOR for String or pack/unpack for Bignum
65662 [brusch2 gmx.] For this, I everytime need 64-Bit blocks XOR'ed together.
65667 [wkb airmail.] Michael,

^ problem building ruby on QNX 6
65666 [vjoel PATH.B] Configure and make went ok, but install failed. The problem is in

^ rb_thread_create / rb_thread_schedule
65682 [gilles.filip] Could somebody tell me what's wrong with the attached piece of code?
65692 [matz ruby-la] * eval.c (rb_thread_create): may called from place higher than
65841 [gilles.filip] It's OK with latest CVS.

^ General question about args (embedded code)
65695 [ben.thomas w] There is a lot of function in the Ruby C API that takes the
+ 65696 [matz ruby-la] "doesn't work" has very little information.  Describe how it didn't
| 65757 [ben.thomas w] My mistake, "doesn't work" don't give any information at all.
| 65758 [matz ruby-la] So you're expecting rb_const_get() to receive two arguments.  Hmm,
| 65769 [ben.thomas w] Yep, and it works just fine!
+ 65698 [lyle users.s] It is *very* non-obvious (at first glance) how functions like

^ [ANN] Bi-Temporal PostgreSQL - http://raa.ruby-lang.org/list.rhtml?name=btpgsql
65699 [ahoward fsl.] BtPgsql is a module containing classes which are able to emulate a bi-temporal

^ rescue modifier with require
65700 [hal9000 hype] begin
65718 [matz ruby-la] rescue is a binary operator which takes two expressions, so you need

^ FXRuby FXText width?
65701 [chrismo clab] I have the following (1.0.20) code. All FXTextFields are set to a default
+ 65702 [ruby persamp] If you want to specify the width (or height) of a widget, you must specifiy that you are doing so.
+ 65703 [sander knolo] First of all, the second parameter in the constructor of FXTextField tells FOX
  65706 [chrismo clab] For some goofy reason I read the 2nd parameter as columns, like columns in

^ C Extension not exiting properly?
65704 [eric.schwart] This is puzzling me mightily.  I have written a C extension to Ruby to
65719 [matz ruby-la] Ruby never works well with pthread.  If you're not using ptherad,
+ 65720 [nobu.nokada ] Or libSTAF may use pthread.  Eric, you should check the library
+ 65759 [eric.schwart] Okay, turns out <nobu.nokada@softhome.net> was right; libSTAF.so is

^ problem using IO.popen under windows
65705 [jean-francoi] I use my ruby program to dialog with an external program using IO.popen.
65712 [nobu.nokada ] Two-way pipe on Windows has been supported since 1.7.2

^ allruby.com
65708 [ser germane-] Hey, is it just me, or is allruby.com lost?  The domain appears to be
65711 [curt hibbs.c] I had originally registered both allruby.com and allruby.org -- both pointed
65742 [ser germane-] Cool, thanks Curt.
66172 [curt hibbs.c] Ok, it took me longer than I thought, but it should be fixed now -- just use

^ source =?GB2312?B?amV3ZWy3otS0tdixpg==?=
65710 [339 vip.sina] 发源地宝石行全体同仁向广大珠宝首饰业界朋友拜年！

^ Use Named Pipes?
65723 [dwerder gmx.] I want to make a stand alone web application server. My
65724 [bob.news gmx] An easy solution would be to use druby, which is similar to CORBA or Java's
65777 [B.Candler po] Another is xml-rpc (also from RAA). I have only played with it a little, but