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51815-52972 subjects 52471-53347
^ Re: ruby-talk separation and the RWN
52227 [ryand zenspi] I'd be happy to help out with that.
^ Compiling stuff under Windows: list of problems
52245 [gsinclair so] I don't want my tortuous experience of trying to get things working under this
+ 52248 [nobu.nokada ] Note that mingw32 and mswin32(msvc) are runtime-compatible in
| + 52320 [gsinclair so] Thanks for the reply, Nakada.
| | 52322 [nobu.nokada ] One extension library is usable from mingw and mswin.
| | 52323 [gsinclair so] an
| + 52341 [gsinclair so] OK, I've tried it with snapshot.tar.gz and Borland 5.5.
| + 52347 [gsinclair so] Using Cygwin's 'byacc' (within Cygwin) to generate parse.c worked nicely,
| + 52352 [nobu.nokada ] I add -w- option to CFLAGS to compile. Borland tools are too
+ 52255 [canyonrat ma] Well, If you are doing this enough to justify spending the bucks, you
| 52325 [gsinclair so] Interesting thought. In fact, if I needed a desktop computer now (I just use
+ 52282 [mikkelfj-ant] This is indeed pragmatic as opposed to dogmatic.
52313 [gsinclair so] And the reason would be? Everything else about Ruby is free. I'm not
52315 [gsinclair so] development
^ String#% (Re: thoughts on typelessness)
52247 [pit capitain] this isn't new syntax. For more info see pp 369 (pp = pickaxe
+ 52249 [gotoken notw] Sorry, I misunderstood meaning of `new'. It was introduced at the
+ 52277 [billtj y.glu] Thanks a lot. I am sorry that I missed it, because I seldom see it, even
+ 52279 [Dave Pragmat] I found it kind of ugly, so I used it rarely in PickAxe examples.
| 52286 [billtj y.glu] Totally agree. So far I am very satisfied with sprintf.
+ 52497 [pit capitain] no need to apologize. String#% is really easy to overlook. I hope I
^ bugs
52259 [kgergely mla] I've noticed some bugs in ruby (I expect another results)
+ 52260 [a.bokovoy sa] Correct.
| 52263 [ben blahr.co] Ruby most certainly does have a 'local' context. The variable 'b' should
| 52266 [a.bokovoy sa] Yes, forget about my response on it, too much work per day :(
+ 52261 [nobu.nokada ] Yes, using block argument equals to assignment to it.
+ 52268 [kgergely mla] But shouldn't it be local to the block? It may cause nice errors...
| + 52275 [michael_s_ca] This is a "Ruby Gotcha". *IF* you declare a variable before the
| | 52289 [billtj y.glu] You can browse the just-started list at
| + 52307 [hal9000 hype] of posts in the last 2-3 years. The range of
+ 52269 [stathy.toulo] This is an issue discussed previously on this list as well as feature
+ 52270 [kgergely mla] So it won't change in the future?
| 52332 [matz ruby-la] I'd like to "fix". But the point is "how" I fix. I don't know yet.
| + 52336 [billtj y.glu] I guess if you are going to use "@__xxx" as class private variables, then
| | 52338 [gsinclair so] Gasp! So many underscores! So ugly!
| + 52363 [batsman.geo ] There was a poll on rubygarden.org, but the results were, ummm, unclear.
| 52367 [billtj z.glu] Isnt't that using the syntax below contrary to "the ruby way" that we
| 52401 [batsman.geo ] a = [1, 2, 3]
+ 52274 [stathy.toulo] Unfortunately, I haven't been using Ruby that long but again noticed the
52419 [bruce codedb] I think that's statistically impossible. ; )
52453 [kgergely mla] 1. All the parameters of the block are local to the block.
^ Tcl implemented in hardware?
52262 [ptkwt shell1] This is a rather strange item. I was checking out comp.arch.fpga
+ 52273 [suk pobox.co] Hardware VMs for Lisp were basically put out of business by faster general purpose workstations.
| 52335 [bulatz integ] what is the VisualWorks?
| 52378 [alwagner tca] Smalltalk from Cincom
+ 52283 [mikkelfj-ant] FPGA is just another kind of software and 36MHz is not really impressive
| 52284 [armin xss.de] The beauty of FPGAs is the beauty of hardware, namely parallelism,
+ 52500 [llothar web.] They have a bytecode VM since 1997.
^ Ruby-libgtop (and RubyCookbook, RAA)
52264 [ptkwt shell1] I was looking at the RAA for something akin to top and saw Ruby-libgtop,
52271 [james jamesb] Or items may exist, but not be listed in the RAA.
^ Printing the Contents of a 2d Array
52278 [rotfeast68 h] At the risk of sounding like a nuby to ruby...
+ 52280 [alan digikat] How about
+ 52287 [mikkelfj-ant] irb(main):032:0> def test2
+ 52288 [billtj y.glu] That's because you are mixing array and range, which are totally different
+ 52339 [bulatz integ] 0..2 # =>> a range
+ 52375 [rotfeast net] Thanks to everyone who responded.
^ ヲ「ウFLFナVフC^[lbgrWlX
52285 [respanse sta] Ｄｅａｒ 担当各位
^ Regexp: Stripping out all except ASCII?
52290 [probertm nor] A simple one, again. How do I strip out all chars
+ 52292 [mike stok.co] Did you mean to say
| 52295 [probertm nor] My apologies, I wasn't clear.
| 52318 [mike stok.co] Ick ;-) Here you aren't dealing with characters, but sequences. For
+ 52294 [billtj y.glu] Depending on what you mean with "valid ASCII", probably using a lower
^ SOAP4R: problem with installing cvs version
52293 [info mjais.d] I just checkout out SOAP4R from cvs and tried to install it
52319 [nahi keynaut] I did not commited redist files in the repository.
52346 [info mjais.d] thanks for help and your great work on SOAP4R
^ Can soneone tell me what I'm doing wrong...
52300 [gunvalk cox.] mp3DirName = ARGV[0]
+ 52304 [billtj y.glu] If you ever used C++, then you would have known the issue of deleting an
| 52305 [mgushee have] And for those who haven't used C++ ... what is the issue? And does it
| + 52306 [mgushee have] fileNames = mp3Dir.entries.find_all {|f| f =~ /.*mp3$/}
| | 52312 [billtj y.glu] Well, I don't know how to explain it easily without using the concept of
| | + 52333 [mgushee have] Well, I do have a general idea of what pointers are, though I can't
| | + 52340 [bulatz integ] use a concept of index :) when we delete element currently indexed by
| | + 52342 [mgushee have] Well, that's simple enough. I was expecting something more esoteric. So
| | | + 52343 [gsinclair so] an
| | | + 52344 [bulatz integ] definitely yes! iterator is a method of ABSTRACTING this cycle, hiding
| | | 52370 [billtj z.glu] Both Java and C++ have iterators, but usually in C++ books the iterators
| | | 52448 [bulatz integ] in ruby books there is the same examples. may be difference is that
| | + 52369 [billtj z.glu] See,
| + 52425 [gunvalk cox.] Cool, thanks. I haven't programmed ruby (or any OO language) in a
+ 52317 [drbrain segm] Dir.chdir ARGV[0]
^ using pack and unpack from C
52308 [ian caliban.] How do you call pack and unpack from C when writing an extension?
+ 52309 [nobu.nokada ] They're pack_pack() and pack_unpack(), and static. You need to
+ 52311 [billtj y.glu] Any method call that you can do in Ruby you can do in general in C with
52316 [ian caliban.] Thanks, William and Nobu, too.
^ z Shopping for a home loan? fto
52314 [lhz netsync.] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
^ Named Arguments doesn't work?
52327 [waisun.chia ] Why doesn't this work?
+ 52328 [billtj y.glu] Is named parameters in method call supposed to be supported in 1.7.3?
+ 52329 [vjoel PATH.B] class Song
+ 52331 [gsinclair so] Pretty simple, really. It's not valid Ruby to use named arguments. You've
^ Ruby/TkGnuplot release
52348 [nagai ai.kyu] I've released Ruby/TkGnuplot.
52351 [gsinclair so] You should use "[ANN] Ruby/TkGnuplot release" as a subject.
+ 52355 [nagai ai.kyu] Oh! I'm sorry. It was bad manners.
+ 52379 [lyle users.s] Yes, and also be sure to send the announcement to the new
^ Please help, question regarding threads
52349 [icculus gmds] I am somewhat new to threaded applications so am hoping someone can help
+ 52350 [bulatz integ] yes. ruby threads are very simple and light. it is close to just
| 52357 [decoux moulo] ruby has thread local variables.
+ 52354 [ysantoso jen] The world of concurrent programming is vast. This little post is far
52356 [bulatz integ] if he writes server, not client, it is better to use one thread per
52409 [ben blahr.co] Would you care to explain why? I can give you a great example of at
52446 [bulatz integ] because you need to work with several connections in one thread,
52479 [ndrsbngtssn ] I know! :)
52481 [bulatz integ] jruby have compatibility problems with ruby in this area? f.e. class
^ Platforms?
52353 [frido q-soft] May I ask on what platforms you're using Ruby?
^ Reusing base classes tests?
52358 [coma_killen ] Whats the standard way to reuse the Test::Unit tests for a
+ 52359 [dsafari para] I'm not sure what you would need to retest in the subclass since whatever you
| 52360 [coma_killen ] Base class (B) has an invariant that should always hold for subclasses
+ 52384 [phlip_cpp ya] The best way I have found is to inherit, then create the testee in a method
52386 [meier meiste] od=20
52388 [phlip_cpp ya] LSP means the caller (in this case the test engine) can't tell we called
+ 52404 [meier meiste] =20
+ 52486 [rking panopt] def assert_wheels_equal expected, klass
^ mod_ruby and postgresql
52364 [harryo zip.c] I did a quick search on the ruby-talk archive, but to no avail, so here's my
+ 52392 [jeremy chaos] ??? I use mod_ruby and ruby-postgres to create database-backed web
| 52394 [mgushee have] Have you tried modifying RubySafeLevel in your Apache configuration? For
| + 52423 [harryo zip.c] I did try that early on, but it didn't fix the particular problem I had at
| | 52431 [harryo zip.c] Just to save anyone else thinking too hard about my problems, I just thought
| | 52434 [botp delmont] if it's not too much to ask. How/what did you fix?
| | 52459 [harryo zip.c] Alan explained that in order for a user other than the owner of a particular
| | + 52460 [botp delmont] Thank you sir Harry for the input.
| | | 52465 [harryo zip.c] Wow! I've never been called *that* before :-). Thanks for the knighthood,
| | + 52511 [alan digikat] Just so everybody knows, this is just one way to setup the posgres authentication.
| + 52623 [sean ruby-la] DO NOT DO THIS!!! The safety level of mod_ruby is a good thing and
+ 52399 [whitton atla] You need to change your RubySafeLevel in your httpd.conf file. Here's my
^ RubyConf: advice needed on event insurance
52373 [dblack candl] I have to arrange event insurance for the conference, and am finding
^ async call to drb server?
52376 [chrismo clab] I have a cgi script that's calling a drb server -- currently the cgi script
^ Re: RubyCOM
52377 [chrismo clab] Do you mean, WIN32OLE allows Ruby -> COM but not COM -> Ruby? You can check
^ Confusion on Keywords
52380 [billtj z.glu] My confusion on keywords in Ruby is simple. First, it was mentioned to
+ 52381 [Dave Pragmat] puts type
| 52439 [chr_news gmx] Not quite - you have to give a little syntactic help
| + 52442 [Dave Pragmat] That was my point :)
| + 52450 [gsinclair so] Ruby wisdom that classes and types are not the same thing. What a 'type' is,
+ 52382 [matz ruby-la] It's simply because lexer did not treat identifiers after dots
+ 52390 [hal9000 hype] You used the term "variable indicators" earlier which
53034 [billtj glue.] Oh yes, totally agree. They are very obvious when we write Ruby in C.
53060 [hal9000 hype] I think I understand you now.
53062 [billtj y.glu] You are just being too modest. Among all the posts that I have seen here,
^ ASSISTANCE
52383 [mikebundu2 r] DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO.
^ Re: Teach me about yield
52385 [mark.firesto] Ok. I never did C, so I don't know when you would use a function pointer.
^ CRuby (Was: R)
52391 [tsiivola cc.] CRuby = subset of Ruby + typed methods + compiler to C
+ 52395 [ndrsbngtssn ] The name CRuby could be a little confusing. The Python people use
| + 52400 [michael_s_ca] Maybe I'm being obtuse here, but I always considered the original
| | 52402 [ndrsbngtssn ] Michael,
| | + 52405 [a.bokovoy sa] Similar to perl and Perl cases?
| | | 52501 [gminick unde] Looks like you're right :)
| | + 52445 [bulatz integ] in the ruby, "Ruby" and "ruby" is not the same things :)))
| | + 52508 [dblack candl] Since at the moment there's no formal definition of Ruby abstracted
| | + 52513 [ndrsbngtssn ] An interesting corner case is when you write a script in a language that
| | | 52522 [dblack candl] That's where I get caught in the philosophical question: without a
| | | 52525 [ndrsbngtssn ] How would you create a formal definition for something that doesn't have
| | + 52517 [mikkelfj-ant] It's really simple: file names as in " require 'graph' " ... a typically in
| | 52520 [dblack candl] I figured it was because unix programs are usually lowercase.
| | + 52524 [hal9000 hype] Actually, I agree, so I guess I'm in that minority
| | | 52529 [mikkelfj-ant] I don't really like that because it could easily become unprecise by
| | | 52530 [ndrsbngtssn ] That is really the situation right now. The "ruby" implementation is the
| | + 52527 [mikkelfj-ant] May I join your minority?
| | 52532 [tsiivola cc.] You may very well turn out to be in the majority, but I feel differently.
| | 52534 [mikkelfj-ant] It's like saying don't make a dictionary over english words, someone might
| | 52536 [n1k0 rogers.] OTOH, a spec like ANSI C is so minimal that platform specific extensions are almost necessary... breaking the portability C is supposed to provide.
| + 52414 [bilotta78 ho] What about RubyC (pronounced as Rubik)?
+ 52415 [armin xss.de] I am probably a bit too late in that thread (have not read thread "R"),
| 52416 [tsiivola cc.] 1) Curiosity: To see how it would be done.
| 52417 [armin xss.de] Curisoity is always a very good reason;
| 52418 [tsiivola cc.] Yeah, but it does't quite work out like that: a CRuby app is not a Ruby
+ 52444 [bulatz integ] i don't see "char*-->String*" converter, nor support for
+ 52469 [ s xss.de] what about Objective C ??
52473 [bulatz integ] ruby has very good syntax and many perl-derived tricks
^ Development countries. News in brief
52393 [newsletters ] This is a multi-part message in MIME format
^ Thanks
52396 [icculus gmds] I think I understand the implications now and am less worried than before.
^ Ruby's hashing algorhithm
52397 [whitton atla] There is a very interesting article over on perl.com about how hashes work.
^ Ruby vec() command equivalent?
52398 [icculus gmds] vec(expr, offset, bits)
+ 52403 [icculus gmds] I also wanted to add, that the vec() command in Perl provides the framework
+ 52406 [matz ruby-la] You can use
+ 52407 [mxvera qwest] あなたがしたすべてのためにあなたに感謝しなさい! 私達はすべてあなたの仕事を認
+ 52412 [icculus gmds] Ahh, I will try your suggestion and look into the BitVector extension as
^ COUNTER-TERRORISM EVENT DRAWS NATION'S TOP EXPERTS TO PHILADELPHIA
52410 [info bio-def] LEADING AUTHORITIES ADDED TO BIODEFENSE PROGRAM
^ Violation of Principle of Least Surprise
52411 [whitton atla] I'm writing this to report a bug as related to Ruby's principle of
52457 [batsman.geo ] IMO Ruby's design is broken with regard to slickness. Furthermore, it
+ 52463 [batsman.geo ] I've been thinking on this for some time and I'm now convinced that Ruby
+ 52464 [matz ruby-la] That's exactly why I usually hide in an island in the far east.
^ spoke too soon
52413 [icculus gmds] I am still somewhat confused as everything I am trying with select appears
52427 [matz ruby-la] select([@server])
^ Installation help
52420 [jeff_thorne ] I am a newbie trying to rid my world of MSFT products...I have
52424 [lyle users.s] Sorry, RDE is for Windows only.
^ installation help
52421 [jeff_thorne ] I am a newbie trying to rid my world of MSFT products...I have install
^ Re: mod_ruby and postgresql (long)
52422 [harryo zip.c] This is a long post, because I want to give enough detail to explain the
^ Global variable for file separtator
52426 [gunvalk cox.] Does ruby have a global variable for the file separator? This is really
+ 52428 [drbrain segm] =20
+ 52429 [matz ruby-la] "/" on all platforms.
+ 52430 [gsinclair so] It's not global, but it's recorded in the File class.
^ http://eli.fsl.noaa.gov/ruby101 - 101 Reason to Learn Ruby
52432 [ahoward fsl.] All-
^ Problem running Ruby script on Solaris 2.6
52433 [e_dragoev ya] I had a few scripts that were running fine on Sparc Solaris 2.6 box.
^ Re: please tell me about ML (Re: Ruby/TkGnuplot release)
52435 [lyle knology] No, I apologize, this was just a bad joke. Over the last few days there
+ 52437 [gsinclair so] I'm sorry, I have to make a correction. It was in fact a good joke.
+ 52503 [mikkelfj-ant] issue - this is clearly a better approach.
^ Specifying local and external block parameters (that old chestnut)
52436 [gsinclair so] I've cannibalised discussion from the "Bugs" thread. I hope it is a service to
+ 52438 [alan digikat] I've asked this before but can't recall any answers. How would one
| 52451 [batsman.geo ] Shouldn't it be
+ 52440 [matz ruby-la] The "solution" changes time to time in my mind. Currently I'm
| + 52456 [batsman.geo ] Then there must be a way to turn these warnings off, because shadowing
| | 52462 [matz ruby-la] I'm afraid I won't give you a way to turn it off. It is "quite
| | + 52468 [bulatz integ] may be some pragma like 'use ruby1.7" can help in providing
| | | 52485 [da.box home.] here we go, down the perl road to disaster...
| | | 52492 [kgergely mla] Yes, that was I say under a different topic...
| | | 52494 [bulatz integ] "documented bug becomes a feature" :)
| | + 52472 [tsiivola cc.] So how about the "::" to indicate non-local? This does break things,
| | 52480 [jfh cise.ufl] I proposed this a while back, too. In this case, though, you wouldn't need
| + 52561 [decoux moulo] What it will do with ?
| + 52568 [Dave Pragmat] And similarly with
| | + 52571 [hal9000 hype] chestnut)
| | | 52572 [tsiivola cc.] It seems theoretically ok, but I am not wild about it. It seems to
| | | 52603 [list NOSPAMc] May I ask, surprises to whom?
| | | + 52606 [dblack candl] The arguments I've heard for having block-local variables in Ruby
| | | + 52635 [tsiivola cc.] a = 0
| | | 52639 [botp delmont] cannot say anything but coool...
| | + 52585 [decoux moulo] For me, it give
| + 52573 [matz ruby-la] "1", with warning.
| 52582 [decoux moulo] Something like this ?
| + 52583 [matz ruby-la] Yes, exactly (although I was not going to allow ":=" in parameter list).
| | 52584 [decoux moulo] If I'm right you just need to change one node when it find :=, i.e.
| + 52610 [mikkelfj-ant] I have not been following this thread, so I'm sorry if I got it wrong.
| + 52612 [decoux moulo] variable with the same name exist in an outer block. For example
| | 52715 [batsman.geo ] matz said previously that in
| | + 52719 [decoux moulo] I know this, but you don't have || in my example.
| | | + 52724 [batsman.geo ] Now I get it... it depends on whether Ruby sees ':=' in the *parsing*
| | | + 52726 [batsman.geo ] At first sight, this looks great!
| | + 52720 [matz ruby-la] They are not "completely different". Think about the following C
| | 52722 [batsman.geo ] My concern is about the code meaning different things in _each iteration_;
| | + 52723 [decoux moulo] See [ruby-talk:52719]
| | + 52725 [matz ruby-la] No need to concern. It is determined compile-time.
| + 52645 [bulatz integ] i personally think that this usage will be very strange nad
| 52646 [matz ruby-la] Could you describe "constant assignment" and "variable assignment" in
| 52648 [bulatz integ] int a=1; -- declaring a with type 'int' and value 1
| 52649 [botp delmont] fwiw, personally, I prefer "=" for all assignments. In case of ambiguity,
+ 52441 [hal9000 hype] block-local
| + 52447 [gsinclair so] So could
| + 52449 [matz ruby-la] Yes, they are problems. With the "solution" described in [ruby-talk:52440],
| + 52458 [batsman.geo ] See my note on this syntax in my original reply to Gavin :-)
+ 52452 [batsman.geo ] I hereby claim authorship of any syntax derived from the use of
| + 52454 [gsinclair so] variable,
| | 52467 [batsman.geo ] Great! The first time in my life I do earn my very own money! Hehe.
| + 52455 [kentda stud.] Request denied. Previous work proves to be quite similar. Plagarist!
| 52461 [batsman.geo ] I'm just receiving my first royalty checks. Try to take them from me 8-)
+ 52466 [gsinclair so] Following up my own post, I now see that it has been discussed extensively in
52506 [hal9000 hype] chestnut)
52576 [gsinclair so] Inspiring. Truly.
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