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^ Ruby Midwest 2011 - Reminder - Call for Speakers ends 6/25
384743 [lpillow gmai] Ruby Midwest 2011 (http://rubymidwest.com) is a two day, single track

^ MIDASWAD - Matz is Dumb and so We are Dumb
384763 [ilias lazari] (public draft)
+ 384765 [code apotheo] Before anyone engages this nonsense . . .
| 384772 [adam apresco] Requoting, because this can't be overemphasised.
| 384774 [sduncan weta] Five posts in on this thread, and four of them are the self appointed
| + 384775 [code apotheo] Thank you for contributing to the noise that Ilias has spawned.
| + 384776 [cmdjackryan ] p-http-trac-edgewall-org-ticket-4315open.html
| | 384777 [code apotheo] Frankly, if everyone had left it at Ilias' first post and the necessary
| | 384783 [astroh.turph] I learned something today. People will go out of their way to comment
| + 384787 [now bitwi.se] I agree.  I=E2=80=99d much rather read another one of Ilias tirades than
+ 384766 [astroh.turph] Actually, unicorns are much smarter than you. Why do you hate unicorns
| 384768 [code apotheo] Please don't feed the troll.
+ 384771 [cmdjackryan ] Be aware, people: Ilias has no credentials whatsoever in programming
+ 384779 [ninja slapha] A quick, lazy response, because I shouldn't feed trolls anyway, and I simply
| + 384780 [sduncan weta] Kudos Mr Masover
| + 384781 [mikbe.tk gma] Please do not respond to this thread with a complete list of William
| + 384788 [now bitwi.se] hat
|   + 384789 [peterhickman] Actually this is a good thread, I was fully expecting Ilias to take
|   + 384790 [adam apresco] ead
|     384792 [now bitwi.se] tead
|     + 384793 [adam apresco] What point are you making? This says nothing of the content of the
|     | 384795 [now bitwi.se] My point is that it=E2=80=99s not up to others to decide what I, or anyone
|     | + 384796 [adam apresco] mildly
|     | | 384798 [now bitwi.se] ne
|     | + 384803 [ninja slapha] I suppose I'm one of the top two, so I suppose you're talking (at least=20
|     |   384806 [now bitwi.se] the
|     + 384794 [cremes.devli] instead
|     | + 384797 [now bitwi.se] e Ilias popped in here (2005, briefly in early 2006, and lastly in 2008). M=
|     | + 384817 [ilias lazari] e Ilias popped in here (2005, briefly in early 2006, and lastly in 2008). M=
|     + 384815 [code apotheo] =2E . . and the number four (number three after Ilias) is me.  Do you know
+ 384782 [gabriel.ma i] Ilias.
+ 384816 [ilias lazari] Rating from the reactions (including the silence), this draft version
+ 384824 [ilias lazari] (public draft)
| + 384826 [wishdev gmai] It certainly is not - Mr. Jesse Ventura (
| + 384827 [james grayso] The real rational was the one given, by me, in the announcement.
| + 384828 [ilias lazari] Gateway Shutting Down
|   384829 [ninja slapha] In other words, if James' goal had been to make Ilias go away, he succeeded.
+ 384929 [ilias lazari] If one sees in those writings disrespect or even an insult, then he
  384933 [ibc aliax.ne] Could you please stop repeating "Exactly 0 (zero) people have

^ [ANN] kgio 2.5.0 - kinder, gentler I/O for Ruby!
384767 [normalperson] kgio 2.5.0 - a minor feature update

^ Re: weasel words
384770 [petite.abeil] Nice preemptive strike :)

^ Matz
384773 [snert hotmai] I'm learning ruby..   I just like to say that to me Matz seems like a very =
384778 [stu rubyprog] I agree. The more I work with it the more I discover how well thought

^ REWORK - Task: Unify behaviour of by-literal-instantiated Objects
384784 [ilias lazari] (Note: This task is part of the RUBY REWORK, which has (among other
+ 384785 [ilias lazari] Clarification (for those which start to send legal nonsense via
+ 384832 [ilias lazari] This is now obsolete, no assistance needed.
+ 384858 [ilias lazari] obsolete, no assistance needed
+ 384904 [ilias lazari] On 21 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 04:14, Ilias Lazaridis <il...@lazaridis.com=
  384905 [ryand-ruby z] Where's the code?

^ How to order a hash based on its keys?
384800 [ibc aliax.ne] [[1, "1"], [2, "2"], [3, "3"]]
+ 384802 [adam apresco] When you hear "order" and "hash" in the same sentence, you should
+ 384804 [vikhyatk gma] ruby
| 384810 [ibc aliax.ne] 0.787590503692627
+ 384805 [josh.cheek g] (Resending this b/c it looks like it got blocked or the server crashed the
| 384807 [anurag08priy] Or maybe a rb tree (red-black tree) from the rbtree gem. Haven't used
+ 384808 [shortcutter ] See Adam's and Josh's replies: a Hash is generally unordered.
| + 384809 [bfleischer g] though true a hash doesn't maintain order, you can sort the keys and
| + 384813 [ibc aliax.ne] I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo
|   384814 [ibc aliax.ne] Sorry, my dog pressed "sent mail".
|   + 384833 [shortcutter ] LOL That's what our cat didn't manage yet - although he is trying hard
|   | 384837 [ibc aliax.ne] =C2=A0An
|   | + 384839 [cmdjackryan ] I suspect you want to output this hash ordered by priority, correct?
|   | | 384841 [ibc aliax.ne] Not exactly. Well, not at all in fact :)
|   | | 384842 [cmdjackryan ] [snip explanation & design constraints]
|   | + 384843 [shortcutter ] Well, in that case an Array would be much more efficient.  You just
|   |   384846 [ibc aliax.ne] Interesting approach :)
|   |   384847 [shortcutter ] Hm...  Now I am not sure any more whether you need a associative
|   |   384849 [ibc aliax.ne] tand
|   |   + 384851 [chastell cha] iority=3D1, @weight=3D50, @port=3D5062>
|   |   | 384852 [ibc aliax.ne] =3D> a.weight).nonzero? or rand }
|   |   + 384855 [shortcutter ] Aha!  This is how I'd probably do it.
|   |     384856 [ibc aliax.ne] It's really cool :)
|   |     384869 [shortcutter ] Oh, thank you!
|   |     + 384871 [ibc aliax.ne] I was not able to do it with a loop, neither writing the algorithm in
|   |     | 384887 [shortcutter ] That was certainly not an effect of the recursion.  You probably
|   |     | 384913 [ibc aliax.ne] Yes, and still I'm looking for the introduced bug :)
|   |     | 384970 [shortcutter ] unfortunately I don't have time to follow up in detail just now.
|   |     | 385050 [ibc aliax.ne] Thanks a lot.
|   |     + 384872 [ibc aliax.ne] I know that my code is not very "ellegant" and does not follow Ruby's fashi=
|   |       384886 [shortcutter ] Still the readability argument applies.  Imagine you have to maintain
|   + 384834 [anurag08priy] Since we are talking about performance benchmarks too, Ruby 1.9's
|     384836 [ibc aliax.ne] My benchmark was tested using Ruby 1.9 ;)
+ 384811 [adam apresco] I guess you didn't mind doing then? :)
  384812 [ibc aliax.ne] Well, I wanted to avoid doing more stuff in Ruby, as using

^ [OT]Once click, one (OO) life...
384801 [davcori80 gm] I would like to share a youtube clip...one click costs nothing while can

^ Gateway Shutting Down
384819 [james grayso] We have long maintained a gateway between the comp.lang.ruby Usenet
+ 384821 [james grayso] It should be offline now.
+ 384822 [kmandpjlynch] Thank you for all of your hard work...
+ 384823 [martindemell] Thanks for your work in keeping it up and running. Also, as a
| 384835 [shortcutter ] James, thank you for the gateway maintenance through past years!  I
| + 384838 [josh.cheek g] I think that as noble as it is to hope people can be mature enough to not
| + 384840 [ryand-ruby z] I'm afraid the numbers just don't bear out. You only posted once via =
|   384844 [shortcutter ] et over the last week (out of 8 posts). :P
|   384845 [james grayso] The gateway was formed to join the then two small online Ruby
|   384848 [shortcutter ] Thanks for clarifying, James!  Now I get the point - and I understand
|   384850 [cmdjackryan ] Considering the ridiculously low numbers of messages from usenet: *Is*
+ 384853 [james.britt ] Very true.

^ [ANN] celluloid 0.1.0: a concurrent object framework for Ruby
384820 [tony.arcieri] Celluloid is a concurrent object framework for Ruby inspired by Erlang and
+ 384825 [normalperson] I initially had one question/concern with this release I answered for
+ 384993 [tony.arcieri] Hey, not sure why but I didn't get that email. Are you posting through

^ Re: OT - Test thread for behaviour of comp.lang.ruby <-> ruby-talk
384830 [ilias lazari] posted to comp.lang.ruby and ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org

^ [ANN] hoe 2.9.5 Released
384831 [ryand-ruby z] hoe version 2.9.5 has been released!

^ [ANN] hoe 2.9.6 Released
384860 [ryand-ruby z] hoe version 2.9.6 has been released!

^ [ANN] minitest 2.3.1 Released
384861 [ryand-ruby z] minitest version 2.3.1 has been released!

^ [ANN] rake-remote_task 2.0.4 Released
384862 [ryand-ruby z] rake-remote_task version 2.0.4 has been released!

^ [ANN] vlad 2.2.1 Released
384863 [ryand-ruby z] vlad version 2.2.1 has been released!
384866 [ibc aliax.ne] most of the link in the right column, in "Doco!!" section, are wrong (404).
+ 384867 [ibc aliax.ne] ).
| + 384868 [ibc aliax.ne] After inspecting the JS code I was able to download the video from
| | 384924 [ryand-ruby z] it
| + 384870 [serialhex gm] umm... i don't know what browser you are using, but using chromium on
+ 384923 [ryand-ruby z] (404).

^ Ruby embed called from a pthread
384864 [luizluca gma] I'm writing a opensync metamodule in order to allow opensync modules
+ 384865 [ko1 atdot.ne] No.
| 384876 [luizluca gma] Thanks for your help but it still does not work.
+ 384877 [whitequark w] We've solved this problem, which arised while trying to launch MRI as a
  + 384879 [luizluca gma] Thanks, I'll take a look.
  + 385360 [luizluca gma] Wow Peter, what a pretty hack :-) It really works! Thanks again.

^ Explicitly setting compiler to C++ in extconf.rb...
384873 [mcpierce gma] I'm trying to setup a Ruby gem that bundles the Swig-generated bindings
384882 [terceiro sof] require 'rbconfig'
384883 [adgar carbon] require 'mkmf'
+ 384884 [mcpierce gma] Hrm, no joy. It's still failing with the same error in mkmf.log.
| 384885 [adgar carbon] stdc++
| + 384888 [mcpierce gma] stdc++
| + 384889 [mcpierce gma] stdc++
+ 384890 [terceiro sof] c++
  384895 [ryand-ruby z] 'g++')
  384949 [mcpierce gma] That did the trick! I added "-x c++" to my $CFLAGS and the system looked

^ Honoring #to_ary and such
384891 [transfire gm] Well, for about the first time I am writing a library that has to be
+ 384892 [jeremyheiler] It depends. Do you want to? I suppose the only disadvantage would be
| 384893 [transfire gm] No, I don't really ;-) But... I've always been under the impression
| 384898 [jeremyheiler] That sounds reasonable, but I still think it depends on what you're
+ 384894 [ryand-ruby z] def foo= foo
| 384896 [transfire gm] Ah, Sweet! Forgot about that.
| 384897 [aaron tender] Be careful with strings.  Array() may not do what you want depending on
| 384900 [transfire gm] On Jun 24, 5:56=A0pm, Aaron Patterson <aa...@tenderlovemaking.com>
+ 384937 [leslieviljoe] I am interested to know why it has to be strict about types?
  384940 [transfire gm] Very simple, I am writing the code to read in and validate and very

^ Symbol#===
384901 [transfire gm] class Symbol
+ 384902 [ninja slapha] Maybe. It makes things somewhat ambiguous if I wanted to only compare a Symbol
+ 384903 [josh.cheek g] I suppose it is indicative of how case statements were thought about during
+ 384910 [robert.dober] No, but too invasive...
  384915 [transfire gm] lol. let me "fix" it for you
  384971 [shortcutter ] Maybe, maybe not...  The two of me can't really agree... :-)
  + 384972 [shortcutter ] P.S.: I believe it must be
  + 384973 [robert.dober] Thx for fixing it;)
    384975 [josh.cheek g] I think it is best the way it is. They want a function, you're providing
    + 384994 [robert.dober] Duly noted ;) I do not change my POV but I will not evangelize of course.
    + 384995 [robert.dober] Ohh that makes me think of this, I am working with rails2.3.9 in the

^ SPDX (and the glazing of ones eyes)
384907 [transfire gm] Never ceases to amaze me how complicated "enterprisey" peoples can
+ 384908 [josh.cheek g] Lol, what are you working on, Trans? Why the typecasting and the XML?
| 384918 [transfire gm] In this case, how best to detail copyright and license info in my
| 384920 [code apotheo] Have you considered a LICENSE or COPYING file?
| 384922 [transfire gm] Yes, of course. But there is no consistent structure to them. Though I
| 384941 [transfire gm] I should note that it was Phillip that basically suggested this
| 384942 [cmdjackryan ] You are welcome. However, it's merely the distillation of what I've
+ 384909 [cmdjackryan ] That's over 70 licenses. So, off the top of your head: How many, and
  + 384911 [robert.dober] Sorry for that OT post, but that kind of sounds the most anti agile
  | + 384912 [code apotheo] =2E . . unless you take it as meaning "There is no such thing as a perfect
  | | 384914 [robert.dober] Good point, I guess I am too upset with Rusell's and Hilbert's way of
  | + 384916 [josh.cheek g] As a domain, Software Engineering probably fails the antecedent.
  + 384917 [transfire gm] On Jun 25, 11:54=A0am, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
    384919 [cmdjackryan ] And how do you propose such a dependency list is generated? Remember
    384921 [code apotheo] On the other hand, disk space sometimes serves well as a rule of thumb
    384925 [cmdjackryan ] Not when I'm using a computer for data storage and retrieval. Calling
    384926 [transfire gm] On Jun 25, 7:04=A0pm, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>

^ Single Responsibility Question
384927 [mikbe.tk gma] I'm trying to figure out who's responsible for a resource.
+ 384928 [javadba gmai] If the code/logic on the listener side were lightweight then you may permit
+ 384930 [robert.dober] Tend to agree with your analysis, even so far that I believe you might
| 384932 [mikbe.tk gma] Thanks for the replies guys.
+ 384943 [shortcutter ] This is the an implementation of the observer pattern.  Ruby's
  384948 [mikbe.tk gma] Thanks Robert, you always have excellent feedback.
  384968 [shortcutter ] Thank you!
  384969 [cmdjackryan ] Not to mention: the fastest code is the code that never gets executed,

^ Rubicle, the unofficial Ruby mascot, released?=
384931 [info rubicle] Ruby mascot.

^ Re: Rubicle, the unofficial Ruby mascot, released
384934 [tony.arcieri] So this is Ruby-tan? (ala http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-tan)
384935 [serialhex gm] something like that i guess... i kinda like it [tho i'm looking for a
+ 384936 [stu rubyprog] or
+ 384938 [ninja slapha] However, modern Konsole can have the entire window be translucent, or just the
  384939 [dido.sevilla] There was another Ruby-tan at some time if I recall correctly.

^ [ANN] raindrops 0.7.0 - FreeBSD fix, code cleanups
384944 [normalperson] Raindrops is a real-time stats toolkit to show statistics for Rack HTTP

^ [ANN] unicorn 4.0.0 - Rack HTTP server for fast clients and Unix
384945 [normalperson] Unicorn is an HTTP server for Rack applications designed to only serve

^ [ANN] Rainbows! 4.0.0 - Unicorn for sleepy apps and slow clients
384946 [normalperson] MOAR concurrency for MOAR COARS!

^ [ANN] Zbatery 4.0.0 - Rack HTTP server without a fork stuck in it
384947 [normalperson] another Rainbows! resync

^ Understanding Threading...
384950 [mcpierce gma] I'm working on a use case where I need to spawn a thread that handles a
+ 384951 [luizluca gma] Is your block using some C extension? In ruby<1.9, threads in ruby do
| 384954 [mcpierce gma] Yep, C++.
| + 384955 [wyhaines gma] Yes, if you write your extension to take advantage of it.  Do some
| + 384957 [gwtmp01 mac.] An alternative, which may or may not be appropriate for your use case,
+ 384953 [wyhaines gma] ends

^ [ANN] Lone Star Ruby Conference V Registration is Now Open
384952 [jimfreeze gm] Registration for Lone Star Ruby Conference V is now open!

^ [ANN] Mechanize 2.0
384956 [drbrain segm] mechanize version 2.0 has been released!

^ [ANN] rdoc 3.7 Released
384959 [drbrain segm] rdoc version 3.7 has been released!
384998 [matt tidbits] Could you give an example of what to say on the command-line to make
385008 [drbrain segm] Regular users (via `gem install`) don't have this problem since the =

^ [ANN] net-http-persistent 1.8 Released
384960 [drbrain segm] net-http-persistent version 1.8 has been released!

^ rescue_action in Rails 1.2.x not rendering my render
384963 [ed.howland g] I am running Rails 1.2.6 and cannot get rescue)action to work like in the docs.
384964 [ryand-ruby z] the docs.

^ How to test code that behaves conditionally based on gem existence?
384965 [josh.cheek g] Working on https://rubygems.org/gems/bundler-bouncer, the problem is it uses
384974 [daniel rimsp] ses
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