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^ Classic Computer Science Books
384283 [stu rubyprog] I wanted to start a thread discussion on classic computer science
+ 384288 [josh.cheek g] Hmm, I'm going the opposite direction. I think it will be all PDF from here
| 384289 [code apotheo] re
| 384291 [stu rubyprog] Thank you for the responses. I look forward to reading others.
| + 384292 [me kmwhite.n] charset=UTF-8
| + 384346 [anurag08priy] If you are into JS, you might want to check out 'Pro Javascript
|   384349 [stu rubyprog] Thank you for the reply. I am certainly interested in javascript
|   384430 [anurag08priy] Hey Stu,
|   384464 [undvinicius ] Wow, those are a lot of books, as a beginner programmer, I don't have
|   + 384475 [martindemell] I'd recommend How To Design Programs [http://www.htdp.org/] as an
|   + 384476 [anurag08priy] Practice of Programming.
|   | 384486 [stu rubyprog] The Practice of Programming is a great book. Definitely worthy of
|   + 384485 [code apotheo] Do you want a specifically Ruby-oriented way to start, or just a way to
|   | 384487 [undvinicius ] Hey, I'm gonna check the links above
|   + 384573 [stu rubyprog] There is a classic series online called "How to Think Like a Computer Scien=
|     384576 [cmdjackryan ] entist"
|     + 384588 [ryand-ruby z] Scientist"
|     + 384593 [stu rubyprog] Free as in Freedom =3D)
|       384595 [cmdjackryan ] Which isn't very free, just a cage in a different colour. ;)
|       384596 [stu rubyprog] This is correct. If you read the book your obligated to become
|       384598 [code apotheo] Choose The Right Licensing Model For Security Software
+ 384293 [groups inbox] I always plug Code Complete. The advice on solid code construction in
+ 384295 [shortcutter ] Object Oriented Software Construction
| 384305 [shortcutter ] The Mythical Man-Month
+ 384296 [jgabrielygal] Clean Code
+ 384301 [albertwagner] K&R and The Mythical Man Month have already been mentioned.  I am
+ 384304 [markus fisch] The Deadline, Tom DeMarco; "A Novel About Project Management"
| + 384306 [mike stok.ca] Peopleware by DeMarco and Lister is a book I frequently force upon =
| + 384307 [ruby.student] Well, I go back to the days when the series: "The Art of Computer
|   384310 [kmandpjlynch] ...you'll be please to know that the 'boxed set' of all four volumes of "The
+ 384309 [kmandpjlynch] I've been a software consultant for over 30 years and am still working at
| 384313 [code apotheo] The list that followed brings up an interesting point -- that logic is an
+ 384333 [ryand-ruby z] I like this category: what book(s) do you reread every year.
| 384334 [stu rubyprog] I read The Tao of Objects as well. I think it's great that it's on
+ 384351 [i_cenov bote] The Design and Construction of Compilers, Robin Hunter, John Wiley &
  384355 [kmandpjlynch] ...if you are into compilers, you'll like the 'Dragon Book', 'Principles of
  384357 [donald.s.wil] Good ones, all, so I won't be repetitive.=20
  384426 [groups inbox] This was my first "Serious OO" text, and in retrospect I can't

^ [ANN] Rails 3.0.9.rc3 has been released!
384285 [aaron tender] I've pushed an rc3.  Yes, we skipped one.  I screwed up the rc2, so I yanke=

^ [ANN] Rails 3.1.0.rc4 has been released!
384286 [aaron tender] I've pushed a 3.1.0.rc4.  Please test it against your application against t=

^ `Kernel.load`ing a file with a class definition in $SAFE = 1 under Ruby 1.9.2-p180
384287 [ged FaerieMU] [I tried posting this to StackOverflow first, so apologies to those for

^ HOT HOUSEWIVES
384300 [emerymaez201] ...

^ Have You Seen Sokolisch's Resume?
384302 [SokolischSpe] W Gary Sokolich

^ problems with Ruby ODBC connection to MSSQL 2008
384314 [yermej gmail] This might not be the right place for this question, but I'm hoping somebod=
+ 384395 [yermej gmail] This error does originate (not surprisingly, I suppose) from ruby-odbc. I b=
+ 384405 [yermej gmail] Just for reference, it turns out that "tds version" in freetds.conf can be set to 8.0 for MS SQL 2000, but must be set for 7.0 for MS SQL 2008. I only wish I'd thought to try that sooner.

^ PSA: Ilias is Crazy
384322 [ryand-ruby z] I guess I have to post this periodically since our population is growing =
+ 384325 [moshersam gm] I'm a new Rubyist and new to this list (as of today) and I must say, that
| + 384327 [josh.cheek g] It's not.
| + 384330 [stu rubyprog] gmail for some reason or another shows 2 posts on your machine but one
+ 384326 [adgar carbon] growing and changing so much.
+ 384329 [aaron tender] and changing so much.
| 384331 [ryand-ruby z] Added, thanks.
+ 384338 [cmdicely gma] Apparently, his insanity (which I don't dispute) has resulted in some
| + 384342 [luislavena g] Can you tell me which improvements?
| | 384343 [me waltonhoo] have already been made)
| + 384373 [ryand-ruby z] that's been stale for a long time without complaint. Verdict: =
+ 384344 [me waltonhoo] I truly hope no one takes that advice.  If I get 10+ of these things
  384348 [stu rubyprog] Since this has escalated to giving the guy a thread with his name in
  + 384350 [adam apresco] Is that sufficiently trollish? You may also search your emails for any
  | 384354 [flo andersgr] Ilias
  + 384374 [ryand-ruby z] the title; would someone mind linking some of his more prolific =
  + 384386 [ninja slapha] He's insulted me pretty directly most of the time he's actually responded to
    384387 [code apotheo] I=20
    384392 [ninja slapha] That's not reasonable. He almost always says this immediately after citing
    384393 [code apotheo] My biggest concern at this point is that, in the midst of getting annoyed

^ [ANN] unicorn 3.7.0 - minor feature update
384328 [normalperson] Unicorn is an HTTP server for Rack applications designed to only serve

^ strange ruby error
384335 [junkone1 gma] i get strange error test.rb.rb:14: syntax error, unexpected '}'
+ 384336 [su.comp.lang] You have an extra `if' after the last `end'.
+ 384337 [johnf bitsbu] You have a number of small syntax/logical errors here, I think. First,
  384340 [code apotheo] Also also . . . the code is horribly formatted, and it took me about four

^ [ANN] Ruby-GNOME2 0.90.9
384345 [kou cozmixng] The Ruby-GNOME2 project released Ruby-GNOME2 0.90.9.

^ RFC - One word alias for require_relative
384363 [ilias lazari] This is a simple Request for Comments.
+ 384364 [Rob AgileCon] require 'alibrary'
| 384400 [ilias lazari] On 11 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:48, Rob Biedenharn <R...@AgileConsultingLLC.com> wro=
+ 384368 [transfire gm] Okay, I'm willing to respond to this b/c I think there's an
| + 384372 [cmdjackryan ] If it breaks backwards compatibility, it's neither effective nor
| | 384378 [transfire gm] On Jun 11, 3:51=A0pm, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | 384382 [cmdjackryan ] Mu. Address the point I made.
| | 384390 [transfire gm] On Jun 11, 6:24=A0pm, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | 384391 [cmdjackryan ] What for?
| | 384396 [transfire gm] On Jun 11, 8:32=A0pm, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | 384397 [cmdjackryan ] See below.
| + 384399 [josh.cheek g] Back in the blissful days before I understood the `$LOAD_PATH` or the
| | + 384404 [transfire gm] re
| | | 384409 [steve stevek] in the first place.
| | | 384410 [transfire gm] it
| | | 384411 [steve stevek] I'll get that fixed, thanks. Till then,
| | + 384421 [ninja slapha] Close, but no. When I call 'require' in, say, lib/foo/bar.rb, I want "require
| + 384401 [ilias lazari] [...] - (changing/extending context)
+ 384389 [wishdev gmai] Afternoon,
+ 384417 [ilias lazari] As there is just one suggestion till now, I'll add two suggestions
| 384419 [luc honk-hon] You do know that 'include' is already used in Ruby. Right?
| 384423 [ilias lazari] yes, to describe "mixing"
+ 384502 [ilias lazari] require_relative 'lib/alter'
| + 384503 [adgar carbon] charset=us-ascii
| + 384504 [flo andersgr] No, the first is relative to the file, the second is relative to =
|   384505 [ilias lazari] ", the process working directory.
|   + 384506 [adgar carbon] If *you* need a shorter name for some absurd reason, then *you* can =
|   | + 384507 [wishdev gmai] Afternoon,
|   | | 384508 [adgar carbon] wouldn't
|   | | 384514 [ilias lazari] dn't
|   | | + 384520 [iwasinnamukn] How very suprising, given your invaluable work "auditing" many languages.
|   | | + 384523 [wishdev gmai] 2011/6/15 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   | |   384526 [cmdjackryan ] Well, Ilias' grasp of the English language isn't the best, so he
|   | |   384534 [ilias lazari] On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 03:45, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
|   | + 384511 [ilias lazari] If something is absurd, than it's the fact that the name
|   |   + 384515 [ninja slapha] Of course, because the only reason anyone would ever disagree with you is=20
|   |   | + 384518 [ilias lazari] I've read everything, but I'll not comment.
|   |   | | 384599 [ninja slapha] Let me think... no. You haven't even been cooperative when I have been tryi=
|   |   | | 384616 [ilias lazari] On 17 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 09:19, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> w=
|   |   | + 384522 [code apotheo] =2E . . or method_missing.
|   |   + 384531 [adam apresco] I can only assume that these two pairs of lines being next to each
|   |     384537 [ilias lazari] On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 14:18, Adam Prescott <a...@aprescott.com> w=
|   + 384513 [ninja slapha] Not really, no.
|     384516 [ilias lazari] On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 00:27, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> w=
+ 384536 [ilias lazari] #existent load functionality
| 384538 [iwasinnamukn] You mean like "require_relative" which actually makes more sense than
| + 384539 [cmdjackryan ] Especially since "request" sounds to me like "would be nice to have,
| | 384541 [ilias lazari] On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 17:43, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | 384542 [matt harpsta] This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
| + 384540 [ilias lazari] On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 17:29, Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com> wro=
|   + 384543 [iwasinnamukn] You don't seem to understand that you are arguing against the
|   | + 384546 [cmdjackryan ] "[Ilias] soon started posting long tirades where he `proved' that the
|   | | 384601 [ninja slapha] Indeed it does, and this is probably why I respond to him as much as I do,
|   | | 384604 [ryand-ruby z] wants) my=20
|   | | 384612 [ilias lazari] [...] - (story of Mr. Masover's live, which I've not read)
|   | | + 384631 [ryand-ruby z] wants) my
|   | | | 384639 [ilias lazari] On 17 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 22:12, Ryan Davis <ryand-r...@zenspider.com=
|   | | | + 384646 [cmdjackryan ] You worked only on NDA'd projects for 20 years, and you can't even
|   | | | | + 384651 [ilias lazari] On 17 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 23:15, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
|   | | | | + 384652 [ilias lazari] On 17 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 23:15, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
|   | | | |   + 384655 [ryand-ruby z] <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
|   | | | |   | 384658 [ilias lazari] On 18 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 00:40, Ryan Davis <ryand-r...@zenspider.com=
|   | | | |   + 384660 [salk.pughpit] 2011/6/17 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   | | | |     + 384664 [astroh.turph] 2011/6/17 Salk Pugh-Pitt <salk.pughpitt@gmail.com>
|   | | | |     | 384666 [salk.pughpit] Is this really worth defending Ilias over? And especially when so many
|   | | | |     | 384672 [astroh.turph] You're probably right it isn't worth defending Ilias over. That said...
|   | | | |     | 384674 [salk.pughpit] Now you're being just as offensive as Ilias. I'll ask you to respectfully
|   | | | |     | 384677 [astroh.turph] I'm not sure this really counts, and I'm a bit worried about posting it as
|   | | | |     + 384670 [ilias lazari] "I'm a 13year old kid, which likes to play with the regulars on the
|   | | | |       384671 [salk.pughpit] 2011/6/17 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   | | | |       384675 [ilias lazari] See, the rest of the "Freak-Show" sabotages my thread at least with
|   | | | + 384647 [jameskilton ] Yes, EVERYONE in this list already knows this, Ilias. But it makes one =
|   | | | + 384653 [ninja slapha] You mean the kind who have jobs, and program for a living? I suppose if sel=
|   | | + 384649 [tony.arcieri] 2011/6/17 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   | + 384547 [matt harpsta] He's admitted that the "project manager" is a hypothetical one. In other
|   | | 384548 [cmdjackryan ] Naw, a sock puppet would require Ilias to be clever enough to create a
|   | + 384550 [ilias lazari] On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 18:49, Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuk...@genest=
|   |   384552 [matt harpsta] This is rude.  You don't have to quote it if you don't want, but calling
|   |   384554 [ilias lazari] alias abcdefg require_relative
|   |   384557 [iwasinnamukn] Then this is the wrong list. ruby-talk does not exist to cover prose or
|   |   + 384559 [ilias lazari] On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:26, Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com> wro=
|   |   | 384560 [jameskilton ] good
|   |   | + 384561 [cmdjackryan ] mething that
|   |   | | 384564 [ilias lazari] On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 21:28, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googl=
|   |   | | 384565 [peric.joe gm] Hey everyone.
|   |   | | 384592 [ilias lazari] On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 22:08, Joe Peric <peric....@gmail.com> wrot=
|   |   | | 384594 [cmdjackryan ] Feel free to leave. Go with God, but go.
|   |   | + 384562 [ilias lazari] On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 21:24, Jason Roelofs <jameskil...@gmail.com=
|   |   |   384566 [blowmage gma] The OP asked for comments on the proposal for a new, more descriptive name
|   |   |   + 384567 [ilias lazari] I guess it's time to give up.
|   |   |   | 384568 [blowmage gma] 2011/6/16 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   |   |   | 384572 [ilias lazari] g.
|   |   |   + 384591 [code apotheo] I think the actual reason for it was to follow a naming convention akin
|   |   + 384563 [code apotheo] =20
|   + 384613 [KDiddy1 web.] 1000.times.collect { 7.times.inject("") { |w,c| w <<
|   + 384727 [ibc aliax.ne] - You (Ilias) like the funcionality provided by require_relative.
+ 384570 [sduncan weta] involve
| + 384571 [blowmage gma] While "involve" is a single word, it is 8 characters and not 7 characters or
| | 384575 [sduncan weta] You can't count.
| | + 384577 [blowmage gma] Why are you guys picking on me? I gave you a perfectly acceptable solution!
| | + 384578 [cmdjackryan ] It *is* seven letters.
| + 384574 [ilias lazari] This one sounds good!
|   + 384581 [adam apresco] 70 messages in and the topic becomes clear: entertain me with 7-letter
|   | 384583 [ilias lazari] On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 23:45, Adam Prescott <a...@aprescott.com> w=
|   | + 384584 [cmdjackryan ] Your bad English is showing: Troll. Singular.
|   | + 384585 [iwasinnamukn] I really wish I could be there when you go for a job interview, or
|   | + 384586 [blowmage gma] That is the second time you implied I was a troll. Even after I told you
|   |   384587 [iwasinnamukn] I would throw some legal threats at him. Look at his previous posts if
|   + 384589 [ilias lazari] On 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 23:28, Ilias Lazaridis <il...@lazaridis.com=
|     384600 [ninja slapha] I can't resist...
|     + 384606 [theburrick h] unsubscribe
|     + 384615 [ilias lazari] On 17 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 09:19, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> w=
+ 384614 [ilias lazari] My own suggestions didn't pass the requirements.
| 384620 [gwtmp01 mac.] I can't believe I'm adding to this conversation...
| + 384621 [code apotheo] I had no idea about "require!".  Thanks for mentioning it.
| | 384622 [gwtmp01 mac.] It doesn't exist, I was just suggesting it as a possibility...
| | 384623 [code apotheo] Damn.  Okay, never mind.
| | 384627 [matt harpsta] Exactly.  While I'm an old unix hack, I really like the descriptiveness of
| + 384633 [ilias lazari] This could become my new favourite.
|   + 384728 [ibc aliax.ne] "require!" =3D> 8 chars, invalid.
|   | 384734 [code apotheo] =2E . . but only seven of them are letters.
|   + 384744 [cmdicely gma] This misstates the existing convention; see below.
|     + 384745 [adam apresco] require_relative is completely fine. There is almost no sensible
|     | + 384746 [luc honk-hon] Trolleomorphism or in other words: if it walks like a troll and quacks =
|     | | 384754 [petite.abeil] like a troll, it's a troll.
|     | + 384762 [ninja slapha] - Is require_relative a good name? Most people think yes, but there have been
|     |   384791 [adam apresco] have been
|     |   384799 [ninja slapha] Not everything he asks has an existing solution, though, partly because he
|     + 384747 [mikbe.tk gma] 10. what?
|     + 384749 [ilias lazari] On 20 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 16:54, Christopher Dicely <cmdic...@gmail.c=
|       384759 [ninja slapha] =46alse.
|       384764 [ilias lazari] On 20 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 21:17, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> w=
|       + 384769 [stu rubyprog] alias your a lamer and jackass to boot.
|       + 384818 [ibc aliax.ne] False.
|         384859 [ilias lazari] On 21 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 21:55, I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo <i...@aliax.=
|         384874 [ninja slapha] Yet take the time to post "Babbling", without actually confirming that it w=
|         + 384875 [ninja slapha] Replace that line with
|         + 384881 [tony.arcieri] I'd say Ilias wants to save himself some typing, but a ballpark estimate
+ 384654 [ilias lazari] require! 'lib/alter' # 2011-06-17 by Gary Wright
| 384676 [matz ruby-la] Unfortunately the general rule for the "!" in the method name, at
| + 384681 [ilias lazari] I've read somewhere that it's a security risk to have the local
| | 384685 [ninja slapha] We've been over this, and I honestly thought you understood last time.
| | + 384686 [cmdjackryan ] ou,
| | + 384693 [ilias lazari] On 18 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 05:40, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> w=
| |   + 384696 [ted knowtheo] 1) def rr(path); require_relative path; end
| |   | 384716 [ilias lazari] Whenever I think I can close this thread, something new pops up.
| |   + 384714 [ninja slapha] Demonstrably false. Remember this?
| |     384715 [ilias lazari] On 19 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 19:44, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> w=
| |     384719 [ninja slapha] And of course, your goals are the only thing that matters.
| |     + 384720 [ilias lazari] On 19 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=8D=CE=BD, 21:41, David Masover <ni...@slaphack.com> w=
| |     + 384723 [tony.arcieri] Tony Arcieri
| |     | 384735 [code apotheo] That's . . . *brilliant*.  You deserve a cookie.
| |     + 384736 [code apotheo] Oddly enough, you should be following your own advice.  Sure, you didn't
| |       384739 [cmdjackryan ] OTOH, this has Ilias nicely contained in one spot, instead of him
| |       384751 [ilias lazari] On 20 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 07:43, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| + 384682 [code apotheo] I take it you mean more "dangerous" in terms of the effects on data
+ 384750 [ilias lazari] require! 'lib/alter' # 2011-06-17 by Gary Wright
| 384752 [code apotheo] Liar.
+ 384878 [ilias lazari] (please note that responses on ruby-talk do not arrive on
  + 384880 [sduncan weta] Presumably you would then have to be careful not to have something
  + 384899 [ilias lazari] nager
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