384121-384899

383946-402965 subjects 384370-390213

theres got to be a better way to test this...
384121 [serialhex@gm] ok, so i'm writing some tests to check if requiring some files will work

Re: rubygems-update 1.8.5 Released
384125 [luislavena@g] , (or
384126 [LeCouey@sf n] Luis,
384127 [luislavena@g] The problem is here, seems HOME is not properly evaluated... perhaps
384353 [LeCouey@sf n] Luis,

Class instance method
384128 [ralphs@do 32] Consider this irb session
384133 [johnf@bi sb ] ==== begin snippet ====
384134 [johnf@bi sb ] Also, when I said that they were "approximately" the same, there are a

ONLINE BACKUP IS VERY MUCH ESSENTIAL FOR SECURE YOUR DATA
384131 [moiurmohiudd] resource on this topic topic.

gem require_paths required?
384136 [transfire@gm] I'm wondering if a gems `require_path` field is really necessary. To
384162 [luislavena@g] While I think your question is valid, I don't think is the right
384185 [transfire@gm] Good point. I will transfer post. Thanks.

Odd module dynamic method behaviour
384148 [john@za uy .] I've been defining modules for mixins with dynamic methods - here is a
384149 [adgar@ca bo ] Use A_HASH.keys.each instead. It's bitten us all, I suspect.
384151 [john@za uy .] Just spotted as you replied thanks - won't forget that one again

Odd module dynamic method behaviour [doh!]
384152 [john@za uy .] OK found it

[ANN] Lone Star Ruby Conference V - Last Call for Speakers
384153 [jimfreeze@gm] TODAY Is the last day to submit your proposal

Created a simple module; can't access it
384159 [RichardDummy] I posted my simple module and test file at http://www.pastie.org/2025300.
384160 [serialhex@gm] before one can include a module into a program, one must first have said
384179 [RichardDummy] WOW! It makes perfect sense!  Now that you've enlightened me (and I've
384198 [RichardDummy] On Jun 6, 8:08=A0am, RichardOnRails

Problem with German Umlauts - MSSQL Database - rake Migration
384186 [douglas-shol] class ImportFirmen < ActiveRecord::Migration

[ANN] fairy 0.6.5 Released
384200 [hazimem@gm i] fairy 0.6.5 has been released!

Ruby 1.9 Time parse question
384208 [tester.paul@] I have a ruby program that works as expected with 1.8.6 and 1.8.7. I
384210 [shortcutter@] [1]+' '+a[2] ) }
384211 [tester.paul@] I played with Date.strptime but it seems to ignore the time stamps.
384213 [shortcutter@] Please do not top post.
384217 [tester.paul@] between re-writing two sort routines and re-writing a third of the

[ANN] kcar 0.3.0 - bytestream to Rack response converter
384218 [normalperson] kcar features an HTTP parser that will convert a bytestream into a

how to repackage a ruby gem.
384219 [william.weih] I have updated a file in an installed gem at gems folder directly. How

[ANN] rake-compiler 0.7.9 Released
384223 [luislavena@g] rake-compiler version 0.7.9 has been released!

a little challenge - reproduce this error
384228 [transfire@gm] Want to see a really amazing error I got this week? Okay... but to
384230 [steve@st ve ] throw NameError.new("uninitialized constant X::Foo::X")
+ 384231 [johnf@bi sb ] This is a pretty trivial error to generate. Just reference the
| 384232 [transfire@gm] Ah good point. I made an assumption. A qualifier then: X does exist.
| 384235 [cmdicely@gm ] The top-level X (and the Foo underneath it) seems required to get the
| + 384237 [adgar@ca bo ] either.
| | + 384240 [transfire@gm] her.
| | | + 384241 [transfire@gm] s/on/are/
| | | + 384242 [adgar@ca bo ] either.
| | |   384249 [code@ap th o] It works the same both 1.8.7, 1.9.1, and 1.9.2 for me.
| | |   + 384250 [adgar@ca bo ] checking
| | |   + 384253 [code@ap th o] Wow.  Um.  Sorry.  I mangled the grammar of that sentence.  It should
| | + 384268 [cmdicely@gm ] ...
| + 384239 [transfire@gm] Well, Balls. That in itself seems ridiculous, but you are right. I'm
|   384269 [cmdicely@gm ] Not really. I'd expect X::Foo::X to get the constant at that path
|   384277 [transfire@gm] I realize now maybe how I should have phrased this as a challenge
|   384278 [johnf@bi sb ] Just to be clear, do you mean "without invoking #call" (as in, pasting
|   384315 [transfire@gm] When #call is invoked, the error is raised. So yea, guess I should
|   384318 [josh.cheek@g] Well, I give up :)
|   384324 [transfire@gm] I bet a few people have come across it without fully knowing what was
|   384356 [transfire@gm] =A0 =A0 module X
|   384358 [josh.cheek@g] Fascinating stuff!
+ 384234 [transfire@gm] Oh you are a clever one ;-)
+ 384236 [cmdicely@gm ] Doesn't give the right result. You want raise, not throw.

[ANN] RuPy 11 Conference : Call for Proposals
384238 [jakub.piotr.] RuPy 11 :: Strongly Dynamic Conference
384243 [flo@an er gr] How long are the slots? I have an idea for a 20 minutes talk, but it =

[ANN] Rails 2.3.12 has been released!
384244 [aaron@te de ] ## Security issues!

[ANN] Rails 3.0.8 has been released!
384246 [aaron@te de ] # Security Issues!

[ANN] Rails 3.1.0.rc2 has been released!
384247 [aaron@te de ] # Security Issues!

Asynchronicity
384254 [iainspeed@gm] Just wondering if anyone can recommend some articles/tutorials on fibers =
+ 384256 [wishdev@gm i] Good Morning,
+ 384259 [wyhaines@gm ] There isn't really a lot involved with fibers.  Replace that HTTP
  384264 [iainspeed@gm] I read that and got one of those "I'm speaking to someone on the other =

[ANN] Rails 3.0.9.rc1 has been released!
384260 [aaron@te de ] Hey folks.  Sorry for the multiple releases in such a short time span, but =

[ANN] Rails 3.1.0.rc3 has been released!
384261 [aaron@te de ] Hey folks.  Sorry for the multiple releases in such a short time span, but =

Where is the #hash method defined?
384262 [ibc@al ax ne] unique for the object (such value doesn't change during the lifetime
+ 384263 [anurag08priy] method(:hash).owner # => Kernel
| 384265 [ibc@al ax ne] Thanks, I didn't know the #owner method :)
| 384266 [ryand-ruby@z] % ri hash
| 384267 [ibc@al ax ne] a bug in the doc?
+ 384272 [chastell@ch ] Note that #hash=E2=80=99s role is to fulfil the implication
  384274 [ibc@al ax ne] Thanks for the very good explanation.

Anyone compiled VIM 7.3 with 1.9.2 support?
384273 [rails.nerd@g] Maybe no the best spot to ask this, but difficult to find answers and
384290 [stu@ru yp og] I have vim compiled with ruby support. Did you have a specific
384294 [kresimir.boj] I did
384303 [rails.nerd@g] Thanks for the replies Stu and Kresimir
384332 [stu@ru yp og] I have a mac system here also. I don't know why vim on macports is still pr=

CORE - Literal Instantiation breaks Object Model
384279 [ilias@la ar ] class String
+ 384284 [matz@ru y- a] You don't have to teach me about Ruby's object model.  String objects
| + 384298 [ninja@sl ph ] Even this has limitations.
| + 384319 [Ruby@Go gl M] In this particular case, that's not even necessary. Ioke and Seph
| + 384320 [ilias@la ar ] I'm writing here in comp.lang.ruby, addressing the public, not you
| | + 384321 [cmdjackryan@] Phillip Gawlowski
| | + 384339 [cmdicely@gm ] Um, yes, they are String objects.
| | + 384347 [ninja@sl ph ] Christopher Dicely already hit the most relevant OO and technical concerns, so
| + 384408 [ilias@la ar ] h is far
|   384544 [ilias@la ar ] print self.inspect, " test\n"
+ 384299 [matthias@wa ] If that really had worked the way youd expect it, you had ended up in an endless loop running out of stack levels soon. The reason for this is that
| 384323 [ilias@la ar ] orig_initialize val
+ 384308 [cmdicely@gm ] The logic in this argument is fundamentally flawed. "Everything is an
+ 384786 [ilias@la ar ] Literal Instantiation breaks Object Model

BARRIER - require "rubygems"
384280 [ilias@la ar ] ruby 1.9.2p180 Windows 7
+ 384281 [peterhickman] Or you could try using the well documented RUBYOPT shell variable to
+ 384282 [me@wa to ho ] ruby 1.9.2p180 (2011-02-18) [i386-mingw32]
| 384311 [ilias@la ar ] same version here.
| 384312 [luislavena@g] There is no such thing as One-Click Installer, is RubyInstaller
| + 384316 [ilias@la ar ] Confirmed, RubyInstaller
| | 384341 [luislavena@g] Defaults like file associations and editors are very subjective.
| | 384352 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (expanding issue, getting personal)
| | 384359 [luislavena@g] Oh, you mean magical, like an automated install? Or probably you mean
| | 384360 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (ha! )
| | + 384361 [iwasinnamukn] Maybe if you took the time out of being a thoroughly abrasive
| | | 384366 [ilias@la ar ] I hope you feel better now.
| | + 384362 [cmdjackryan@] "Don't force users to opt out of installing optional features. Allow
| | | 384365 [ilias@la ar ] On 11 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:30, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | | + 384367 [cmdjackryan@] So, the RubyInstaller doesn't actually install Ruby and its
| | | | 384369 [code@ap th o] More to the point, you can use libraries without rubygems.
| | | + 384394 [cmdicely@gm ] Ruby is operative without file associations to .rb/.rbw files. While
| | | + 384398 [ilias@la ar ] * Install with the defaults (just "click through")
| | |   384402 [cmdjackryan@] Phillip Gawlowski
| | |   384403 [ilias@la ar ] On 12 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 13:38, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | |   + 384415 [ninja@sl ph ] =20
| | |   | 384422 [ilias@la ar ] Of course it is.
| | |   + 384437 [cmdicely@gm ] Who are the relevant people? Luis Lavena, who is the RubyInstaller
| | + 384413 [luislavena@g] "Another reason to streamline setup is that inexperienced users
| |   384416 [ilias@la ar ] This just confirms: leave the boxes checked, or get rid of them (maybe
| |   + 384425 [aaron@te de ] These are all good points, but has anyone really been far even as
| |   + 384428 [ninja@sl ph ] Would you hire someone without seeing a line of code from them?
| |     384429 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (he just don't get it that I don't take his kind serious)
| + 384317 [me@wa to ho ] That would be my guess as well.  If you installed 1.8.6 from the (now
+ 384434 [ilias@la ar ] please note that several messages which appear on ruby-talk

Classic Computer Science Books
384283 [stu@ru yp og] I wanted to start a thread discussion on classic computer science
+ 384288 [josh.cheek@g] Hmm, I'm going the opposite direction. I think it will be all PDF from here
| 384289 [code@ap th o] re
| 384291 [stu@ru yp og] Thank you for the responses. I look forward to reading others.
| + 384292 [me@km hi e. ] ...
| + 384346 [anurag08priy] If you are into JS, you might want to check out 'Pro Javascript
|   384349 [stu@ru yp og] Thank you for the reply. I am certainly interested in javascript
|   384430 [anurag08priy] Hey Stu,
|   384464 [undvinicius@] Wow, those are a lot of books, as a beginner programmer, I don't have
|   + 384475 [martindemell] I'd recommend How To Design Programs [http://www.htdp.org/] as an
|   + 384476 [anurag08priy] Practice of Programming.
|   | 384486 [stu@ru yp og] The Practice of Programming is a great book. Definitely worthy of
|   + 384485 [code@ap th o] Do you want a specifically Ruby-oriented way to start, or just a way to
|   | 384487 [undvinicius@] Hey, I'm gonna check the links above
|   + 384573 [stu@ru yp og] There is a classic series online called "How to Think Like a Computer Scien=
|     384576 [cmdjackryan@] entist"
|     + 384588 [ryand-ruby@z] Scientist"
|     + 384593 [stu@ru yp og] Free as in Freedom =3D)
|       384595 [cmdjackryan@] Which isn't very free, just a cage in a different colour. ;)
|       384596 [stu@ru yp og] This is correct. If you read the book your obligated to become
|       384598 [code@ap th o] Choose The Right Licensing Model For Security Software
+ 384293 [groups@in ox] I always plug Code Complete. The advice on solid code construction in
+ 384295 [shortcutter@] Object Oriented Software Construction
| 384305 [shortcutter@] The Mythical Man-Month
+ 384296 [jgabrielygal] Clean Code
+ 384301 [albertwagner] K&R and The Mythical Man Month have already been mentioned.  I am
+ 384304 [markus@fi ch] The Deadline, Tom DeMarco; "A Novel About Project Management"
| + 384306 [mike@st k. a] Peopleware by DeMarco and Lister is a book I frequently force upon =
| + 384307 [ruby.student] Well, I go back to the days when the series: "The Art of Computer
|   384310 [kmandpjlynch] ...you'll be please to know that the 'boxed set' of all four volumes of "The
+ 384309 [kmandpjlynch] I've been a software consultant for over 30 years and am still working at
| 384313 [code@ap th o] The list that followed brings up an interesting point -- that logic is an
+ 384333 [ryand-ruby@z] I like this category: what book(s) do you reread every year.
| 384334 [stu@ru yp og] I read The Tao of Objects as well. I think it's great that it's on
+ 384351 [i_cenov@bo e] ...
  384355 [kmandpjlynch] ...if you are into compilers, you'll like the 'Dragon Book', 'Principles of
  384357 [donald.s.wil] Good ones, all, so I won't be repetitive.=20
  384426 [groups@in ox] This was my first "Serious OO" text, and in retrospect I can't

[ANN] Rails 3.0.9.rc3 has been released!
384285 [aaron@te de ] I've pushed an rc3.  Yes, we skipped one.  I screwed up the rc2, so I yanke=

[ANN] Rails 3.1.0.rc4 has been released!
384286 [aaron@te de ] I've pushed a 3.1.0.rc4.  Please test it against your application against t=

`Kernel.load`ing a file with a class definition in $SAFE = 1 under Ruby 1.9.2-p180
384287 [ged@Fa ri MU] [I tried posting this to StackOverflow first, so apologies to those for

HOT HOUSEWIVES
384300 [emerymaez201] ...

Have You Seen Sokolisch's Resume?
384302 [SokolischSpe] W Gary Sokolich

problems with Ruby ODBC connection to MSSQL 2008
384314 [yermej@gm il] This might not be the right place for this question, but I'm hoping somebod=
+ 384395 [yermej@gm il] This error does originate (not surprisingly, I suppose) from ruby-odbc. I b=
+ 384405 [yermej@gm il] Just for reference, it turns out that "tds version" in freetds.conf can be set to 8.0 for MS SQL 2000, but must be set for 7.0 for MS SQL 2008. I only wish I'd thought to try that sooner.

PSA: Ilias is Crazy
384322 [ryand-ruby@z] I guess I have to post this periodically since our population is growing =
+ 384325 [moshersam@gm] I'm a new Rubyist and new to this list (as of today) and I must say, that
| + 384327 [josh.cheek@g] It's not.
| + 384330 [stu@ru yp og] gmail for some reason or another shows 2 posts on your machine but one
+ 384326 [adgar@ca bo ] growing and changing so much.
+ 384329 [aaron@te de ] and changing so much.
| 384331 [ryand-ruby@z] Added, thanks.
+ 384338 [cmdicely@gm ] Apparently, his insanity (which I don't dispute) has resulted in some
| + 384342 [luislavena@g] Can you tell me which improvements?
| | 384343 [me@wa to ho ] have already been made)
| + 384373 [ryand-ruby@z] that's been stale for a long time without complaint. Verdict: =
+ 384344 [me@wa to ho ] I truly hope no one takes that advice.  If I get 10+ of these things
  384348 [stu@ru yp og] Since this has escalated to giving the guy a thread with his name in
  + 384350 [adam@ap es o] Is that sufficiently trollish? You may also search your emails for any
  | 384354 [flo@an er gr] Ilias
  + 384374 [ryand-ruby@z] the title; would someone mind linking some of his more prolific =
  + 384386 [ninja@sl ph ] He's insulted me pretty directly most of the time he's actually responded to
    384387 [code@ap th o] I=20
    384392 [ninja@sl ph ] That's not reasonable. He almost always says this immediately after citing
    384393 [code@ap th o] My biggest concern at this point is that, in the midst of getting annoyed

[ANN] unicorn 3.7.0 - minor feature update
384328 [normalperson] Unicorn is an HTTP server for Rack applications designed to only serve

strange ruby error
384335 [junkone1@gm ] i get strange error test.rb.rb:14: syntax error, unexpected '}'
+ 384336 [su.comp.lang] You have an extra `if' after the last `end'.
+ 384337 [johnf@bi sb ] You have a number of small syntax/logical errors here, I think. First,
  384340 [code@ap th o] Also also . . . the code is horribly formatted, and it took me about four

[ANN] Ruby-GNOME2 0.90.9
384345 [kou@co mi ng] The Ruby-GNOME2 project released Ruby-GNOME2 0.90.9.

RFC - One word alias for require_relative
384363 [ilias@la ar ] This is a simple Request for Comments.
+ 384364 [Rob@Ag le on] require 'alibrary'
| 384400 [ilias@la ar ] On 11 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:48, Rob Biedenharn <R...@AgileConsultingLLC.com> wro=
+ 384368 [transfire@gm] Okay, I'm willing to respond to this b/c I think there's an
| + 384372 [cmdjackryan@] If it breaks backwards compatibility, it's neither effective nor
| | 384378 [transfire@gm] On Jun 11, 3:51=A0pm, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | 384382 [cmdjackryan@] Mu. Address the point I made.
| | 384390 [transfire@gm] On Jun 11, 6:24=A0pm, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | 384391 [cmdjackryan@] What for?
| | 384396 [transfire@gm] On Jun 11, 8:32=A0pm, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | 384397 [cmdjackryan@] See below.
| + 384399 [josh.cheek@g] Back in the blissful days before I understood the `$LOAD_PATH` or the
| | + 384404 [transfire@gm] re
| | | 384409 [steve@st ve ] in the first place.
| | | 384410 [transfire@gm] it
| | | 384411 [steve@st ve ] I'll get that fixed, thanks. Till then,
| | + 384421 [ninja@sl ph ] Close, but no. When I call 'require' in, say, lib/foo/bar.rb, I want "require
| + 384401 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (changing/extending context)
+ 384389 [wishdev@gm i] Afternoon,
+ 384417 [ilias@la ar ] As there is just one suggestion till now, I'll add two suggestions
| 384419 [luc@ho k- on] You do know that 'include' is already used in Ruby. Right?
| 384423 [ilias@la ar ] yes, to describe "mixing"
+ 384502 [ilias@la ar ] require_relative 'lib/alter'
| + 384503 [adgar@ca bo ] ...
| + 384504 [flo@an er gr] No, the first is relative to the file, the second is relative to =
|   384505 [ilias@la ar ] ", the process working directory.
|   + 384506 [adgar@ca bo ] If *you* need a shorter name for some absurd reason, then *you* can =
|   | + 384507 [wishdev@gm i] Afternoon,
|   | | 384508 [adgar@ca bo ] wouldn't
|   | | 384514 [ilias@la ar ] dn't
|   | | + 384520 [iwasinnamukn] How very suprising, given your invaluable work "auditing" many languages.
|   | | + 384523 [wishdev@gm i] 2011/6/15 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   | |   384526 [cmdjackryan@] Well, Ilias' grasp of the English language isn't the best, so he
|   | |   384534 [ilias@la ar ] On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 03:45, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
|   | + 384511 [ilias@la ar ] If something is absurd, than it's the fact that the name
|   |   + 384515 [ninja@sl ph ] Of course, because the only reason anyone would ever disagree with you is=20
|   |   | + 384518 [ilias@la ar ] I've read everything, but I'll not comment.
|   |   | | 384599 [ninja@sl ph ] Let me think... no. You haven't even been cooperative when I have been tryi=
|   |   | | 384616 [ilias@la ar ] Clearly kind of off-topic/off-context obsessed.
|   |   | + 384522 [code@ap th o] =2E . . or method_missing.
|   |   + 384531 [adam@ap es o] I can only assume that these two pairs of lines being next to each
|   |     384537 [ilias@la ar ] The processes which guide the evolution of the ruby language.
|   + 384513 [ninja@sl ph ] Not really, no.
|     384516 [ilias@la ar ] Yes, you're right.
+ 384536 [ilias@la ar ] #existent load functionality
| 384538 [iwasinnamukn] You mean like "require_relative" which actually makes more sense than
| + 384539 [cmdjackryan@] Especially since "request" sounds to me like "would be nice to have,
| | 384541 [ilias@la ar ] On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 17:43, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| | 384542 [matt@ha ps a] ...
| + 384540 [ilias@la ar ] On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 17:29, Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com> wro=
|   + 384543 [iwasinnamukn] You don't seem to understand that you are arguing against the
|   | + 384546 [cmdjackryan@] "[Ilias] soon started posting long tirades where he `proved' that the
|   | | 384601 [ninja@sl ph ] Indeed it does, and this is probably why I respond to him as much as I do,
|   | | 384604 [ryand-ruby@z] wants) my=20
|   | | 384612 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (story of Mr. Masover's live, which I've not read)
|   | | + 384631 [ryand-ruby@z] One problem ilias... that's _not_ a resume (resumes actually mention companies) and nobody here believes a word of it. You couldn't code yourself out of a wet paper bag if your life depended on it (in _any_ language).
|   | | | 384639 [ilias@la ar ] Is this so? I've seen many which mention the employers/customers
|   | | | + 384646 [cmdjackryan@] You worked only on NDA'd projects for 20 years, and you can't even
|   | | | | + 384651 [ilias@la ar ] On 17 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 23:15, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
|   | | | | + 384652 [ilias@la ar ] On 17 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 23:15, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
|   | | | |   + 384655 [ryand-ruby@z] If you weren't well documented as doing this for the last 8 years, I'd be very inclined to believe this. You're a troll, nothing more, and this explanation fits occam's razor the best.
|   | | | |   | 384658 [ilias@la ar ] Please keep relatives out.
|   | | | |   + 384660 [salk.pughpit] 2011/6/17 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   | | | |     + 384664 [astroh.turph] 2011/6/17 Salk Pugh-Pitt <salk.pughpitt@gmail.com>
|   | | | |     | 384666 [salk.pughpit] Is this really worth defending Ilias over? And especially when so many
|   | | | |     | 384672 [astroh.turph] You're probably right it isn't worth defending Ilias over. That said...
|   | | | |     | 384674 [salk.pughpit] Now you're being just as offensive as Ilias. I'll ask you to respectfully
|   | | | |     | 384677 [astroh.turph] I'm not sure this really counts, and I'm a bit worried about posting it as
|   | | | |     + 384670 [ilias@la ar ] "I'm a 13year old kid, which likes to play with the regulars on the
|   | | | |       384671 [salk.pughpit] 2011/6/17 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   | | | |       384675 [ilias@la ar ] See, the rest of the "Freak-Show" sabotages my thread at least with
|   | | | + 384647 [jameskilton@] Yes, EVERYONE in this list already knows this, Ilias. But it makes one =
|   | | | + 384653 [ninja@sl ph ] You mean the kind who have jobs, and program for a living? I suppose if self-
|   | | + 384649 [tony.arcieri] 2011/6/17 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   | + 384547 [matt@ha ps a] He's admitted that the "project manager" is a hypothetical one. In other
|   | | 384548 [cmdjackryan@] Naw, a sock puppet would require Ilias to be clever enough to create a
|   | + 384550 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (off-context babbing)
|   |   384552 [matt@ha ps a] This is rude.  You don't have to quote it if you don't want, but calling
|   |   384554 [ilias@la ar ] alias abcdefg require_relative
|   |   384557 [iwasinnamukn] Then this is the wrong list. ruby-talk does not exist to cover prose or
|   |   + 384559 [ilias@la ar ] On 16 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 20:26, Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com> wro=
|   |   | 384560 [jameskilton@] If you *want* professionalism, you have to *be* professional yourself, something that you very rarely show.  This huge thread has given you more than what you "need". Come up with something yourself instead of trying to waste anyone else's time here.
|   |   | + 384561 [cmdjackryan@] mething that
|   |   | | 384564 [ilias@la ar ] On 16 Ϧ, 21:28, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
|   |   | | 384565 [peric.joe@gm] Hey everyone.
|   |   | | 384592 [ilias@la ar ] Ah!
|   |   | | 384594 [cmdjackryan@] Feel free to leave. Go with God, but go.
|   |   | + 384562 [ilias@la ar ] How disappointing.
|   |   |   384566 [blowmage@gm ] The OP asked for comments on the proposal for a new, more descriptive name
|   |   |   + 384567 [ilias@la ar ] I guess it's time to give up.
|   |   |   | 384568 [blowmage@gm ] 2011/6/16 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
|   |   |   | 384572 [ilias@la ar ] g.
|   |   |   + 384591 [code@ap th o] I think the actual reason for it was to follow a naming convention akin
|   |   + 384563 [code@ap th o] =20
|   + 384613 [KDiddy1@we .] 1000.times.collect { 7.times.inject("") { |w,c| w <<
|   + 384727 [ibc@al ax ne] - You (Ilias) like the funcionality provided by require_relative.
+ 384570 [sduncan@we a] involve
| + 384571 [blowmage@gm ] While "involve" is a single word, it is 8 characters and not 7 characters or
| | 384575 [sduncan@we a] You can't count.
| | + 384577 [blowmage@gm ] Why are you guys picking on me? I gave you a perfectly acceptable solution!
| | + 384578 [cmdjackryan@] It *is* seven letters.
| + 384574 [ilias@la ar ] This one sounds good!
|   + 384581 [adam@ap es o] 70 messages in and the topic becomes clear: entertain me with 7-letter
|   | 384583 [ilias@la ar ] What becomes clear is this: who are the trolls.
|   | + 384584 [cmdjackryan@] Your bad English is showing: Troll. Singular.
|   | + 384585 [iwasinnamukn] I really wish I could be there when you go for a job interview, or
|   | + 384586 [blowmage@gm ] That is the second time you implied I was a troll. Even after I told you
|   |   384587 [iwasinnamukn] I would throw some legal threats at him. Look at his previous posts if
|   + 384589 [ilias@la ar ] "involve", reminds me "include" (which I would use naturally, but it's
|     384600 [ninja@sl ph ] I can't resist...
|     + 384606 [theburrick@h] ...
|     + 384615 [ilias@la ar ] I am *responding* to "collaborative trolling attacks".
+ 384614 [ilias@la ar ] My own suggestions didn't pass the requirements.
| 384620 [gwtmp01@ma .] I can't believe I'm adding to this conversation...
| + 384621 [code@ap th o] I had no idea about "require!".  Thanks for mentioning it.
| | 384622 [gwtmp01@ma .] It doesn't exist, I was just suggesting it as a possibility...
| | 384623 [code@ap th o] Damn.  Okay, never mind.
| | 384627 [matt@ha ps a] Exactly.  While I'm an old unix hack, I really like the descriptiveness of
| + 384633 [ilias@la ar ] This could become my new favourite.
|   + 384728 [ibc@al ax ne] "require!" => 8 chars, invalid.
|   | 384734 [code@ap th o] =2E . . but only seven of them are letters.
|   + 384744 [cmdicely@gm ] This misstates the existing convention; see below.
|     + 384745 [adam@ap es o] require_relative is completely fine. There is almost no sensible
|     | + 384746 [luc@ho k- on] Trolleomorphism or in other words: if it walks like a troll and quacks =
|     | | 384754 [petite.abeil] like a troll, it's a troll.
|     | + 384762 [ninja@sl ph ] - Is require_relative a good name? Most people think yes, but there have been
|     |   384791 [adam@ap es o] I agree the discussions that have spun off have been (very)
|     |   384799 [ninja@sl ph ] Not everything he asks has an existing solution, though, partly because he
|     + 384747 [mikbe.tk@gm ] 10. what?
|     + 384749 [ilias@la ar ] ok
|       384759 [ninja@sl ph ] False.
|       384764 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (not readed, 'cause it's anyway biased babbling)
|       + 384769 [stu@ru yp og] alias your a lamer and jackass to boot.
|       + 384818 [ibc@al ax ne] False.
|         384859 [ilias@la ar ] If someone is usually not concise and straight to the point, and
|         384874 [ninja@sl ph ] Yet take the time to post "Babbling", without actually confirming that it was.
|         + 384875 [ninja@sl ph ] Replace that line with
|         + 384881 [tony.arcieri] I'd say Ilias wants to save himself some typing, but a ballpark estimate
+ 384654 [ilias@la ar ] require! 'lib/alter' # 2011-06-17 by Gary Wright
| 384676 [matz@ru y- a] Unfortunately the general rule for the "!" in the method name, at
| + 384681 [ilias@la ar ] I've read somewhere that it's a security risk to have the local
| | 384685 [ninja@sl ph ] We've been over this, and I honestly thought you understood last time.
| | + 384686 [cmdjackryan@] ou,
| | + 384693 [ilias@la ar ] There is no "we".
| |   + 384696 [ted@kn wt eo] 1) def rr(path); require_relative path; end
| |   | 384716 [ilias@la ar ] Whenever I think I can close this thread, something new pops up.
| |   + 384714 [ninja@sl ph ] Demonstrably false. Remember this?
| |     384715 [ilias@la ar ] Well, I see you are really obsessed.
| |     384719 [ninja@sl ph ] And of course, your goals are the only thing that matters.
| |     + 384720 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (once more, off context, as he seems he cannot focus on a
| |     + 384723 [tony.arcieri] Tony Arcieri
| |     | 384735 [code@ap th o] That's . . . *brilliant*.  You deserve a cookie.
| |     + 384736 [code@ap th o] Oddly enough, you should be following your own advice.  Sure, you didn't
| |       384739 [cmdjackryan@] OTOH, this has Ilias nicely contained in one spot, instead of him
| |       384751 [ilias@la ar ] On 20 =C9=EF=FD=ED, 07:43, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackr...@googlemail.com>
| + 384682 [code@ap th o] I take it you mean more "dangerous" in terms of the effects on data
+ 384750 [ilias@la ar ] require! 'lib/alter' # 2011-06-17 by Gary Wright
| 384752 [code@ap th o] Liar.
+ 384878 [ilias@la ar ] (please note that responses on ruby-talk do not arrive on
  + 384880 [sduncan@we a] Presumably you would then have to be careful not to have something
  + 384899 [ilias@la ar ] nager
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