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^ Looking for postgres-pr rdocs or other documentation ( tutorial etc )
333310 [reid.thompso] I installed the latest postgres-pr, but it doesn't look like any docs
^ performing an action only the first time a function called
333311 [James.French] $directXSDKBootstrapped =3D false
+ 333313 [phlip2005 gm] Don't think of them as "functions". Think of them as "methods", and always put
+ 333314 [blambeau gma] One way to do it, which requires a good understanding of
+ 333315 [jcoglan goog] class Proc
| 333321 [James.French] I see I still have some way to go with ruby :) Nice! Can't believe how quic=
| 333326 [James.French] I have to admit though, I don't understand the 'wrapped, count =3D self, 0'=
| 333330 [jcoglan goog] 2009/4/8 James French <James.French@naturalmotion.com>
| 333331 [James.French] Ahh, thanks.
+ 333329 [minilith gma] $directXSDKBootstrapped =3D false
| 333332 [James.French] I like it, but you get a warning with -w...
+ 333336 [shortcutter ] Please do not hijack other threads.
+ 333339 [botpena gmai] sometimes, i apply ruby's nested methods feature...
^ Ruby editor for linux
333319 [juan_zanos t] Does anyone have any suggestions for a Ruby editor on Linux? I
+ 333320 [jeff schwabc] vim. If you typed vi, you probably got vim, but configured in
| 333325 [kyleaschmitt] For quick scripts I'm fond of SciTE. It's slick, no nonsense coding goodness.
| 333355 [mail_pedro y] That's only the default configuration, change "buffers=10" on the
| 333442 [smasta earth] And add
| + 333444 [elsadsis gma] Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
| + 333464 [kyleaschmitt] Neat. Just added those. I'll point out those complaints were in
+ 333338 [benjamin.lov] Although it is still in it's relative infancy Redcar is shaping up nicely
| 333342 [botpena gmai] looks promising, but i have a problem building it on ruby1.9 on
| 333344 [mutati0n.313] i use Gedit with some useful plug-in , and it do my work excellent
+ 333340 [mark thomasz] I use NetBeans Ruby edition. I'm very happy with it.
| + 333348 [noway fakenu] And RadRails (standalone or as an Eclipse plugin) is not bad for pure
| | 333471 [noway fakenu] I gave NetBean a try since yesterday : it's a better tool than RadRails
| + 333362 [james.britt ] I second that, sort of. :)
+ 333345 [vjoel path.b] vjoel : Joel VanderWerf : path berkeley edu : 510 665 3407
| 333519 [botpena gmai] An error has been encountered in accessing this page.
| 333647 [vjoel path.b] Oops. Sourceforge has been changing things around lately, but the file
+ 333349 [heavenlyrubi] I use Diakonos. Certainly my preference for terminal/tty/ssh editing --
+ 333350 [michael webl] I like Bluefish. Easy to use, supports Ruby highlighting (and almost
| 333352 [bosko.ivanis] I use Emacs with emacs-starter-kit and Rinari for Rails. But you can
| 333353 [shevegen lin] I use bluefish since 4 years and although there are many features I
| + 333364 [gdonald gmai] Anyone who uses Emacs then claims to have "stopped" probably never
| | 333509 [james.britt ] So it's somewhat like heroin then?
| + 333369 [martindemell] So, have you filed any bugs or submitted any feature requests to Bluefish?
| + 333405 [b.candler po] I agree that life is too short to learn emacs.
| | 333470 [jeff schwabc] How is that different from emacs, or from vim with a beginner-friendly
| | 333482 [martindemell] st
| + 333492 [mauriceroman] SO?
+ 333356 [rogerpack200] There's one written in ruby called arcadia
+ 333382 [saji apcc21.] saji
+ 333518 [hutch-lists ] Vim (not vi) or emacs, according to your preferences, are essential.
^ ruby compactor/consolidator?
333322 [kyleaschmitt] Is there a built-in or common way to consolidate a ruby project into one file?
+ 333323 [jcoglan goog] 2009/4/8 Kyle Schmitt <firstname.lastname@example.org>
| + 333324 [jcoglan goog] 2009/4/8 James Coglan <email@example.com>
| + 333327 [kyleaschmitt] Did you get that from the new O'Reilly book, "Mastering cat"? ;)
| 333333 [jcoglan goog] 2009/4/8 Kyle Schmitt <firstname.lastname@example.org>
+ 333343 [vjoel path.b] (Doesn't package binary extensions, though, only ruby source.)
333328 [sushruts.con] what is sedu gem?
333337 [benjamin.lov] Are you sure it wasn't sudo gem? Which calendar control are you referring
^ SMTP problem sending to multiple recipients
333347 [michael webl] msg = <<EOS
^ Instantiate different class based on variable contents
333358 [stephen.odon] Lets say I have a two classes, Foo and Bar.
+ 333359 [tony medioh.] Object.const_get(var).new(...)
| 333365 [stephen.odon] Thanks, works perfectly!
+ 333360 [gwtmp01 mac.] This can sometimes be the best approach because if you simply
333367 [stephen.odon] =A0
^ [ANN] bluecloth-2.0.0 released
333363 [ged FaerieMU] I tried to post this announcement twice yesterday, but both seem to
333377 [matt tidbits] Cool, but my response to this is the same as my response to RDiscount.
+ 333399 [ryand-ruby z] "When you do want to insert a <br /> break tag using Markdown, you end
+ 333445 [ged faeriemu] You're absolutely correct -- Discount (and therefore anything based on
333476 [matt tidbits] Right, but I was just simplifying; in real life the example did have two
333582 [ged FaerieMU] You're right, bug reports are also valuable contributions, and asking
^ Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth
333368 [chromatophor] I want to keep this short, but I could write a
+ 333370 [billk cts.co] We are toast in a billion years if we don't get off this planet.
| + 333371 [ged FaerieMU] Yum, toast!
| + 333412 [robert.dober] ecomes-a-red-giant/
+ 333372 [summercoolne] i am too... that sitting down at the desk for 10 to 12 hours a day, not
| 333391 [eleanor game] oh dear, on that basis I'm screwed then :(
| 333415 [robert.dober] Ahem, you mean doomed, right?
| + 333418 [rquadling go] collect
| | 333426 [robert.dober] Now I can see clearer, obviously she is switched on!
| + 333432 [eleanor game] Call me an optimist, but to quote Buffy: "there's always another
| 333522 [ninja slapha] Buffy also died twice. I don't know that's the kind of optimism we want!
| 333555 [eleanor game] Well I think it's all that's on offer.
+ 333375 [mark.gallop ] Farewell and good luck!
+ 333378 [phlip2005 gm] You must do whatever makes you happy. If you are not having fun, then you are
| 333535 [minilith gma] The problem with that is that for most people it's always the others
+ 333400 [rubfor recit] Call me naive but I can't quite see why computers are causing damage. Au
| + 333410 [jayeola gmai] Too much of anything is bad. You probably needed a balance between
| | + 333434 [phlip2005 gm] Google "sustainable pace" or "energetic work".
| | + 333595 [perrin apoth] Yeah -- and if you live a more active, "healthy" life, you could get
| + 333433 [phlip2005 gm] Our worst general global problem is lobbyists and corruption, and the second
| + 333437 [robert.dober] ond
| + 333484 [martindemell] ond
| + 333596 [perrin apoth] I wouldn't say the oil companies, specifically, are second worst. I'd
+ 333440 [higgs.bozo g] Am I the only one who, upon reading the subject line, thought that Earth
| + 333443 [phlip2005 gm] At last - a way to bridge the distance between software engineers and activist
| | 333455 [phlip2005 gm] ...
| | + 333463 [caduceass gm] Reminds me of an old engineering joke (forgive the masculine slant, ladies).
| | | 333469 [jayeola gmai] th
| | + 333468 [chromatophor] Thanks for some of your positive responses.
| | + 333485 [robert.dober] I would really discuss some of these points with you but I am afraid
| | | 333529 [lasitha.rana] Yes, it is. Moreover i think anyone not interested in further
| | | + 333534 [chris chrisk] Why not use your skills to work on solving the problem then? I doubt the
| | | + 333537 [robert.dober] Right, this thread should be quite known now :).
| | | + 333540 [shevegen lin] Oh noes!
| | | + 333571 [billk cts.co] While I share, to a degree, the concerns Christophe mentioned,
| | | 333599 [perrin apoth] Attempts to "save" the planet might actually be successful past a billion
| | + 333542 [jeff schwabc] I'm not sure where you're getting your data, but 200 species/day
| | | + 333544 [robert.dober] That you do not agree with Christophe I understand, that some of the
| | | | 333601 [perrin apoth] about.
| | | + 333580 [eleanor game] Simple fact: it's always life and death. It has been since the first
| | | | 333602 [perrin apoth] =20
| | | | 333615 [eleanor game] Our very existence does that anyway, regardless of any conscious
| | | | 333626 [robert.dober] Eleanor, Chad
| | | | + 333631 [shevegen lin] I think it depends on your viewpoint.
| | | | + 333633 [minilith gma] I think there are certain national/cultural differences in what is
| | | | | 333634 [phlip2005 gm] Further, returning to the earth is _not_ "green", or "ecologically correct" -
| | | | + 333640 [eleanor game] Robert, from where I'm sat the green movement desires to lock our
| | | | | + 333652 [phlip2005 gm] Waving the banner of "evolution is natural and good" would apply if human
| | | | | + 333772 [vjoel path.b] And mass extinction is just nature's way of making room for more
| | | | | + 333779 [robert.dober] And we here in France, what do you think, we will starve to death
| | | | | | 333793 [vjoel path.b] Sigh, at least the snails seem healthy.
| | | | | + 333787 [eleanor game] Perhaps the future is peopled by humanity's myriad descendants,
| | | | + 333657 [perrin apoth] My reference to dirt farming agrarian societies wasn't a response to any
| | | | + 333660 [billk cts.co] I'm trying to imagine sitting down to interact with an operating system
| | | | | 333678 [ninja slapha] How so? We didn't need a magical singularity to get this far...
| | | | | 333690 [perrin apoth] eve
| | | | | 333700 [billk cts.co] Certainly there are many possibilities. I've enjoyed a few
| | | | + 333665 [robert.dober] I think I understand much better what all of you meant now. There
| | | | | 333691 [perrin apoth] I tend to think that only by encouraging technological innovation will
| | | | + 333666 [mail_pedro y] Putting all the people in the same bag is always a bad idea. I think
| | | | | + 333667 [phlip2005 gm] Exactly. And for each cost-savings attempted during the 20th Century, there were
| | | | | | 333693 [perrin apoth] =20
| | | | | + 333722 [robert.dober] t are
| | | | | 333749 [mail_pedro y] Yes indeed, I hope it will.
| | | | + 333783 [eleanor game] Alas all too true. If advocates of green concerns really want to =20
| | | | + 334172 [tomcloyd com] Free market idealism...ah, yes. In the USA, and, as a consequence, in
| | | | | + 334187 [perrin apoth] I believe the technical term for the notion that "the free market" is to
| | | | | | 334191 [caduceass gm] I've been avoiding this thread, but what the heck...
| | | | | | + 334195 [xeno.campano] Free market wants cheap transaction cost, which is partly information cost.
| | | | | | | + 334203 [robert.dober] I honestly do not care about the market model. It is irrelevant(1),
| | | | | | | | 334275 [chromatophor] i believe that is thinking along the right lines.
| | | | | | | | 334280 [axyd80 gmail] No need to save the Planet. It should function well in the next 30-100
| | | | | | | | + 334281 [jayeola gmai] And besides, who are we kidding thinking that the planet needs us?
| | | | | | | | | 334284 [phlip2005 gm] Who will move it to a safe orbit as the Sun goes off the Main Sequence?
| | | | | | | | | + 334285 [phil pricom.] People,
| | | | | | | | | | 334303 [synfinatic g] Well look on the bright side, when we're all extinct, then this thread
| | | | | | | | | | 334312 [robert.dober] ass
| | | | | | | | | + 334309 [robert.dober] Hmm I was very recently thinking that we are really worried about the
| | | | | | | | | | 334314 [phlip2005 gm] And the systems to prevent terr'ists from using said weapons to aim a rock
| | | | | | | | | | 334359 [perrin apoth] Minnesota . . . ?
| | | | | | | | | + 334358 [perrin apoth] Post-humans, of course. I, for one, welcome our new us-as-masters in a
| | | | | | | | | + 334626 [eleanor game] If a billion years isn't long enough to Dyson sphere the Sun it's
| | | | | | | | | 334642 [robert.dober] l.
| | | | | | | | | + 334653 [ruby.student] se
| | | | | | | | | + 334666 [eleanor game] The clue is in the name: Dyson spheres were hypothesised by Freeman
| | | | | | | | | 334671 [robert.dober] I challenge this ;), a Dyson sphere might be the evolutionary response
| | | | | | | | | 334679 [eleanor game] Fred Hoyle proposed something similar in the form of intelligent dust
| | | | | | | | | 334812 [perrin apoth] Hm. Combine those ideas, and you get an intelligent Dyson cloud that
| | | | | | | | | 334898 [eleanor game] Universal dRuby, without the flaky bits ;)
| | | | | | | | | 334906 [robert.dober] I can hardly wait if it will come up with 42 too???
| | | | | | | | | 334939 [eleanor game] I find it always responds to reason if I poke it hard enough anyway ;)
| | | | | | | | + 334282 [phlip2005 gm] Thirty years? Note that only 40 years ago, futurists predicted we'd have
| | | | | | | | | 334380 [jeff schwabc] Didn't you get your jet pack? :)
| | | | | | | | + 334332 [martindemell] If Accelerando is to be believed, computing power will then become the
| | | | | | | | 334360 [perrin apoth] Interesting. Accelerando is sitting on a shelf in my living room,
| | | | | | | + 334357 [perrin apoth] t.=20
| | | | | | + 334356 [perrin apoth] I think you gravely misunderstand what "free market" means and have
| | | | | | 334368 [caduceass gm] I'm starting to think that you are talking so loud that I can't hear
| | | | | + 334620 [eleanor game] You haven't had a free market in the USA, any more than we have here
| | | | | + 334627 [rimantas gma] Well, getting another degree in sociology or psychology should fix that.
| | | | | | 334817 [perrin apoth] cal
| | | | | + 334663 [chromatophor] it is not a fundamental tenet of the scientific method, it is one
| | | | | | 334685 [eleanor game] I'm not entirely sure how that conflicts with "all phenomena can be
| | | | | | 334695 [chromatophor] i found the above to be quite a treasure trove, if you poke down through
| | | | | | 334697 [caduceass gm] A lot of people said some interesting things were thrown out. Maybe
| | | | | | 334709 [chromatophor] ok, lets look at history. history is positively strewn with the
| | | | | | + 334724 [phlip2005 gm] I'm getting in the habit of reading down to the first misappropriation of
| | | | | | | 334728 [eleanor game] As an aside I can highly recommend both "Guns, Germs and Steel" and
| | | | | | | 334729 [martindemell] Now you're just trolling :)
| | | | | | | 334730 [eleanor game] Ellie
| | | | | | + 334818 [perrin apoth] I still haven't seen any credible numbers on that.
| | | | | + 334816 [perrin apoth] Nicely summarized.
| | | | + 334173 [tomcloyd com] Make that -
| | | + 333600 [perrin apoth] Indeed.
| | + 334324 [michael webl] It was at this point that I rolled my eyes. Question: where did you get
| | | + 334334 [phlip2005 gm] Actually, >95% of all scientists agree the cause is anthropogenic (us).
| | | | + 334335 [martindemell] I'd love to read that article, if you can find it again.
| | | | | 334336 [phlip2005 gm] I tried while posting. Googling for any variation on [climate change] gives
| | | | + 334338 [michael webl] As before ... exactly where does that statistic come from? What is its
| | | | + 334339 [nancejk u.wa] It's worth pointing out that, in point of fact, there is a clear
| | | | | 334345 [phlip2005 gm] Dilbert covered that once. Dogbert hired a consultant to bribe a scientist
| | | | + 334630 [eleanor game] Most scientists are not impartial and the further one moves from
| | | | + 334637 [phlip2005 gm] The _weather_ is chaotic. The _climate_ is the walking average, beneath the
| | | | | + 334686 [eleanor game] With the starting conditions and the correct model a chaotic system
| | | | | | 334692 [phlip2005 gm] The solution to Zeno's Paradox is the "infinitesmals" concept. Your
| | | | | | 334820 [perrin apoth] =20
| | | | | + 334819 [perrin apoth] =20
| | | | + 334745 [jlambert oh.] Exactly. That's one of the problem with species extinction models.
| | | | + 334767 [shevegen lin] I agree.
| | | | | 334782 [eleanor game] Agreed. Good science always starts with an hypothesis but what defines
| | | | + 334789 [chromatophor] ok, somebody got pretty peeved at me and listed my IP with spambag.org
| | | | + 334794 [phlip2005 gm] You picked ME to end the thread on? Thanks a lot!!
| | | | + 334821 [perrin apoth] What -- like Dr. William Gray, who essentially created the basis for
| | | + 334628 [eleanor game] Now that's a statement I can get behind. Likewise I believe we should
| | + 334352 [jlambert oh.] This is one of the funniest e-mails I've read on this list.
| | 334353 [phil pricom.] Jon,
| | 334421 [jlambert oh.] It's funny because it's a sky-is-falling stupid rant.
| | + 334423 [martindemell] out
| | + 334501 [chromatophor] from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction_event
| + 333846 [afsinbey gma] You are not alone ;-)
| 334155 [chromatophor] ok, this is the last peep out of me on this quite OT thread. i will
| + 334197 [phlip2005 gm] It's happened to me too - I just wake up in the morning and discover I'm
| + 334682 [eleanor game] I wish you well with your endeavours as I'm sure on a personal level
| + 334688 [chromatophor] the detrimental effect on ecologies was not linear in nature, there was
| + 334694 [chromatophor] i'm glad you enjoyed it. gardening by the way produces about 5 times the
| 334822 [perrin apoth] =20
+ 333494 [mauriceroman] OK - BYE
| 333503 [nancejk u.wa] Even the things we love most have a dark side... in my opinion if you
| 333597 [perrin apoth] =20
+ 333508 [cwdinfo gmai] charset=US-ASCII;
+ 333524 [patcito gmai] Hey, the planet is doing just fine! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw
+ 333572 [juan_zanos t] drive more.
| 333574 [minilith gma] Just because the Internet doesn't move, doesn't mean its maintenance
| + 333575 [robert.dober] We really should be aware of that I agree, maybe I should not have
| + 333577 [juan_zanos t] It's a classic example of premature optimization. You need to
| 333598 [perrin apoth] Good luck measuring the comparative levels of energy use for different
+ 333594 [perrin apoth] I'm not angry. I'm exasperated that people think adopting a nontechnical
+ 334625 [sureshkkgvr ] Ruby == "more productivity"
| 334636 [phlip2005 gm] Diiiing! What do we have for him, Johny??!
+ 338260 [brusch4_remo] You're glad to be able to switch completely.
338278 [shevegen lin] Are these two rivals?
338279 [vjoel path.b] After all, the principal product of most managerial meetings is the very