267066-269020

^ UTF-8 character downcase!!
267066 [testmyeclips] Who can help me with problem?
+ 267067 [vshepelev im] Igor K.
+ 267075 [ jupp gmx.de] §±§â§Ú§Ó§Ö§ä §ª§Ô§à§â
  267079 [koflerjim ma] Did you try using the character-encodings gem?
  267174 [testmyeclips] Thank you for reply
  267191 [vshepelev im] Igor K.
  267250 [koflerjim ma] As already indicated above, you may also consider to roll your own

^ force file write in dos format
267070 [martindemell] Is there any built-in way to force File.puts to use dos line endings,
+ 267072 [fwmailinglis] charset="us-ascii"
| 267074 [martindemell] Thanks!
+ 267154 [fxn hashref.] If I undertand correctly what you want your program is going to
  267236 [martindemell] Good point. As of now this will only ever be run on a linux box, but

^ setup.rb and shared data
267073 [apeiros gmx.] I'm using rake+setup.rb to create a gem. It has a data-dir which is
267082 [apeiros gmx.] Thanks to cout in irc.freenode.org/#ruby-lang I solved my problem. In
267163 [nobu ruby-la] If you want put architecture dependent files, they shouldn't go

^ Help with leap year programing
267086 [hbqian gmail] I am a beginner on programming now reading books by Chris Pine: Learn
+ 267089 [shortcutter ] The fist thing I'd change is to remove all the #to_i's.  You should
+ 267103 [ jupp gmx.de] So here is a nonclassic solution to this classic problem :)
+ 267210 [kgo_yoi hotm] I think it's easier to use Date#leap? for this question.
| 268237 [hbqian gmail] Thanks to all!
+ 268303 [dolgun excit] Your complex conditional can be expressed more clearly with a series of

^ [ANN] Ruby Logo Contest
267094 [shugo ruby-l] Ruby Visual Identity Team (<URL:http://rubyidentity.org/>) did great
+ 267105 [dangerwillro] How many times can we enter per person?
+ 267121 [ jupp gmx.de] To mention this: 100 000 JPY is about 630 EUR or about 860 USD.
| 267124 [dangerwillro] It's even more if you have an account in Japan and can spend it there!
+ 267159 [jmrepetti gm] I send an email with the images to that email direccion and the email is
| 267160 [Rob AgileCon] Note the domain is ruby-assn.org
+ 267161 [shugo ruby-l] include the

^ Singleton Modules rather than Singleton Classes
267106 [transfire gm] This recently came up in the thread entitled "Python-style
+ 267135 [logancapaldo] Counter proposal: remove singleton classes all together in favor of
| + 267137 [dblack wobbl] But then you introduce a whole second model of how method lookup and
| | 267147 [robert.dober] All three proposals make sense to me, what does not make sense to me
| | 268503 [wayneeseguin] charset=US-ASCII;
| + 268526 [ara.t.howard] i think i've done as much meta-programming as anyone out there and i
|   268571 [logancapaldo] Care to give an example?
|   268597 [ara.t.howard] sure.
|   268640 [logancapaldo] I assume __trait_singleton_class is (class << obj; self; end) and
+ 268629 [shortcutter ] $ ruby <<XXX
  268845 [transfire gm] On Sep 11, 1:55 am, "Robert Klemme" <shortcut...@googlemail.com>
  268919 [shortcutter ] I'm not sure.  If they are not modularized I probably would not want
  268925 [transfire gm] On Sep 13, 1:59 am, "Robert Klemme" <shortcut...@googlemail.com>
  269020 [shortcutter ] Thanks for the explanation!  I think I got a better picture now.

^ gsub ?
267112 [josselin wan] I don't manage very well the gsub function, not too bad with simple
267116 [sepp2k googl] Use %r{your_regex} instead of /your_regex/ - then you don't have to escape the
267170 [josselin wan] Thanks a lot you made my SUnday !!

^ Parsing query parameters from hyperlink
267113 [lrlebron gma] I am trying to parse strings like this
267128 [shortcutter ] require 'uri'
267129 [aaron tender] Query strings are allowed to use semicolons as delimeters, not to
267130 [lrlebron gma] This would work if the string where a proper url. But it is a
+ 267132 [aaron tender] Use hpricot to extract the href, then feed it though URI and CGI.
| 267145 [lrlebron gma] Here's what I ended up with
+ 267133 [lrlebron gma] Sorry for the second reply. I took your suggestions and came up with
+ 267139 [cmdjackryan ] Your point? A hyperlink *is* a URL in the WWW context.
  267143 [lrlebron gma] If you try to parse URI throws an error.
  267181 [shortcutter ] irb(main):001:0> require 'uri'
  267190 [lrlebron gma] I meant if you try to parse the string

^ Threading in ruby is retarded .....?~!
267127 [saliktheblan] I'm running the latest version an Ruby and the way threads work makes
+ 267140 [vjoel path.b] vjoel : Joel VanderWerf : path berkeley edu : 510 665 3407
+ 267142 [charles.nutt] You could try it in JRuby, which uses normal operating system threads.
+ 268370 [drbrain segm] Are you using windows?  It is broken, not ruby.  Don't use gets in
+ 268373 [ara.t.howard] this code won't run at all.  post a complete, but minimal, example

^ calendar events
267150 [globyy3000 h] 1/25 - 2/3 is 8 days difference.
267152 [fwmailinglis] charset="us-ascii"
267153 [globyy3000 h] Perfect. Thanks a ton!
267157 [globyy3000 h] just another quick question...if i wanted to put a string into a date
+ 267158 [fwmailinglis] charset="us-ascii"
| + 267162 [list.rb gmai] t = Time.parse '9/1/2007'
| + 267164 [james graypr] => false
+ 267281 [botp delmont] # res = []

^ gem_server won't deliver css from alternate template
267156 [stephen.bann] /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/rdoc/generators/template/html/jamis.rb

^ Ruby Central down??
267166 [znmeb cesmai] Is Ruby Central down? I was trying to point some folks at the Regional
+ 267185 [florian.assm] Already a half a week or so... Don't know what's happening there :(
| 267187 [dblack wobbl] This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
+ 267186 [dblack wobbl] Fixed -- thanks.
  267192 [florian.assm] Lol, and I thought you guys know already... :D
  267253 [come.news fr] Yes, indeed: RubyGarden was down too. It's now up, but the page I
  267267 [cmdjackryan ] Not hacked, but spammed. I reverted the changes to more, er, appropriate
  267297 [come.news fr] I didn't know that everybody could write the page without login.

^ 2 Way encryption for password
267176 [gabe dragffy] I'm creating a password database (a dangerous thing to do, I know!)
+ 267179 [dzwell gmail] contains many encryption algorithms), and you might want to browse this
| 267213 [gabe dragffy] Thank you very much, never thought of using the SSL library!
+ 267254 [jeremy hineg] You might want to check out keybox and see if it would meet your needs.
+ 267291 [apeiros gmx.] Small nitpick about terminology: encryption is per definition 2 way,

^ How does ruby handle overloading?
267184 [pongba gmail] Matz once replied on Cedric's blog that
+ 267188 [sepp2k googl] def draw(arg)
| 267279 [pongba gmail] On Sep 2, 9:25 pm, Sebastian Hungerecker <sep...@googlemail.com>
| 267285 [dblack wobbl] It's actually class-switch (type and class aren't the same in Ruby),
| 267294 [pongba gmail] Thanks, David. That helps :-)
+ 267189 [dblack wobbl] I am a great believer in 'extend'.
+ 267195 [phrogz mac.c] There's a problem with what Matz describes, because...
| 267278 [pongba gmail] lol
+ 267212 [shortcutter ] Somehow I miss something in this sentence.  You write "if..." but I do
| 267280 [pongba gmail] Sorry, I meant 'what if' :-)
| 267295 [shortcutter ] If you read Matz's statement (which you quoted) again you'll find the
+ 267246 [transfire gm] There is a very good reading for support overloading, regardless. By
+ 267333 [transfire gm] Just FYI, I developed one a long time ago, based on Euphoria's model.

^ How to extend a method?
267194 [yedingding g] Class A
267248 [florian.assm] class B < A
267252 [florian.assm] module ExtendA
267313 [yedingding g] Thanks. Maybe using ExtendA module is a good start, :)

^ Re: Seeing the source OT
267197 [dangerwillro] Pretty fra off topic, but I admire the way Id tries to release most

^ Rough idea: Quering ObjectSpace
267214 [vshepelev im] Very raw idea, based on SemmleCode for Java [1].

^ RubyGarden server down too ?
267217 [come.news fr] I'm trying to access rubygarden's wiki nearly a week now and it is

^ Re: rubygame - collision detection / physics
267221 [ snk gna.org] It is the *fastest* and coolest 2D physics library I've seen in ages!
267225 [dangerwillro] Looked at it, but it's waaay beyond me at this point!

^ curious erros
267224 [mghohoo gmai] require 'rubygems'
267230 [fwmailinglis] charset="US-ASCII"

^ How can I debug a JRuby class that is invoked from a Java application?
267226 [lcrespom gma] I am using JRuby (through the standard JRE 6 support) to add some Ruby
267232 [charles.nutt] At the moment this is not yet possible. The challenge here is that most
267243 [lcrespom gma] On Sep 2, 9:31 pm, Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nut...@sun.com>
267249 [charles.nutt] Full compilation to Java is planned for JRuby 1.1, by end of October.

^ Ruby interpreter in Eclipse?
267231 [itsme213 hot] I am interested in working in eclipse to use and extend to some of its

^ extract a range start/end?
267238 [globyy3000 h] 4/2/07
+ 267240 [killavus gma] I think that range operates on numbers, and method "to_i" casts class to
| 267244 [wilsonb gmai] Ranges can be constructed using objects of any type, as long as
| + 267245 [killavus gma] Oh, my bad. Sorry :)...
| + 267263 [vjoel path.b] You meant Comparable, right? There's no connection between Enumerable
|   267271 [wilsonb gmai] You are correct. Not enough sleep this weekend.
|   267275 [globyy3000 h] now as far as matching that date to grep'd data should i use a string
+ 267247 [florian.assm] # see Parsedate#parsedate at
  267251 [florian.assm] # see Parsedate#parsedate at
  267257 [globyy3000 h] if you dont mind my asking,
  267268 [florian.assm] Ok, I though you were familiar with some of the RubyDoc ressources...

^ How to find and install rubygems on Cygwin
267255 [bostonantifa] I'm a newbie as far as Ruby goes, and I want to install rubygems in
+ 267258 [stefano.croc] I don't use Cygwin (or windows), so my instructions may be inaccurate. gem is
| 267262 [bostonantifa] Stefano,
+ 267259 [dzwell gmail] I think you need to change the path where rubygems searches for

^ Inconsistent results using Iconv
267260 [rsl swimcomm] Howdy. I'm working with Iconv and discovered that this code
+ 267331 [rsl swimcomm] I just realized that I didn't really ask a question there, did I?Woops. I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong or perhaps just how to doit right so that I get the same results. Do I need to manually includeanother library that somehow isn't getting included in the other waysI've tried? I'd really like to be able to count on my Iconv.iconv codedoing what I need all the time but it seems I can't at the moment. :(
| 267385 [koflerjim ma] Converting from utf-8 to iso-8859-1 seems to work though (source code
+ 267400 [angus quovad] [Russell Norris <rsl@swimcommunity.org>, 2007-09-03 00.40 CEST]
  267421 [dan-ml dan42] ruby -riconv -e 'puts Iconv.iconv("US-ASCII//TRANSLIT", "UTF-8",

^ subject line
267261 [devi.webmast] I don't know who would make this sort of decision, but could we put
+ 267264 [matz ruby-la] It used to.  But many claimed it's uncommon and inconvenient in the
| 267265 [cmdjackryan ] I'm for it. It largely irritates me if there is no "tag" in the subject
| 267374 [perrin apoth] Ditto, a lot.
| 267381 [james graypr] I'm pretty sure that's not what Matz was talking about.  The messages
| + 267387 [perrin apoth] A message ID number would be similarly clearly identifying for me, as no
| + 267390 [perrin apoth] I hadn't thought of that.  It's a very good point.
| + 267393 [vjoel path.b] X-Mail-Count: 267381
| | 267447 [nobu ruby-la] You can see tons of them in the ChangeLog file.
| | 267553 [vjoel path.b] True. And you are one poster who does use "ruby-talk:NNNN" extensively
| + 267680 [dangerwillro] This is tiring already.
|   267740 [perrin apoth] I like to think the Ruby community is, in general, courteous enough to
+ 267266 [dzwell gmail] It would increase the size of the Subject: line. This is a problem,
| + 267269 [rsl swimcomm] for what it's worth, if you can filter yr emails by the "to" field,
| + 267272 [florian.assm] I personally don't like a [Ruby]-tag in front of the subjects too.
| + 267274 [fwmailinglis] charset="US-ASCII"
| + 267361 [bigboss64 ip] I usually find my self with 50-200 messages each day in my INBOX from this
| + 267375 [perrin apoth] Not everyone filters ruby-talk into its own "folder" in a mail user
|   + 267378 [apeiros gmx.] And your client of choice doesn't support rewriting the subject as a
|   | 267388 [perrin apoth] . . . and you wouldn't complain if all my responses contained [RUBY] in
|   | 267404 [apeiros gmx.] 1 out of... how many are subscribed here?
|   + 267383 [james graypr] That's why I have my MUA color Ruby-Talk posts red.  They stand out
|   | + 267389 [perrin apoth] That's nice for you.  Others here are not you.
|   | | 267395 [james graypr] That's an interesting choice of words since your entire argument for
|   | | 267637 [perrin apoth] Incorrect.  My reasoning is not for my specific situation.  My reasoning
|   | + 267391 [vjoel path.b] Yup. In my thunderbird setup, with columns for subject, sender, date,
|   |   267452 [mo_mail ongh] If you're talking about Thunderbird pressing 'L' (either directly or due
|   + 267481 [Bil.Kleb NAS] Violates DRY?
|     267506 [dangerwillro] line. If that is trouble, then your mail client needs to change, any
|     + 267510 [shortcutter ] I vote against, basically because I believe the issue can be solved
|     | + 267514 [peter peterc] I vote against. Those with the firehose of ruby-talk gushing into their
|     | | 267630 [perrin apoth] I have ruby-talk in my primary inbox basically because if I let it dump
|     | | + 267638 [znmeb cesmai] Actually, there are several R lists, and they all use subject line
|     | | | 267682 [znmeb cesmai] Yes ... that part of it I know ... UNIX as a way for researchers to get
|     | | | + 267701 [_mwryder wor] The first time I used them was in a mainframe editor that used a
|     | | | | 267703 [znmeb cesmai] I remember something like this in the text editors on Xerox CP-V and
|     | | | | 267705 [_mwryder wor] I was using UCEDIT (University of Calgagy EDIT) on a CDC Cyber mainframe
|     | | | + 267741 [perrin apoth] I don't know how it worked its way into a basic utility like grep, but I
|     | | | + 268020 [bob proulx.c] Being the pedant that I am I have to clarify this statement.  The
|     | | |   268060 [aguvench gma] I've got an idea.  Forgive me if this issue has been resolved, or if this
|     | | |   268063 [caduceass gm] The only benefit of preceding the subject with a [RUBY], as far as I
|     | | |   268090 [perrin apoth] That's my case.  I don't filter by the subject line tag -- I use headers
|     | | + 267651 [peter peterc] To be fair, you've said somewhat more in this thread than anyone else
|     | | | + 267652 [perrin apoth] To be fair . . . you're about right.
|     | | | | 267673 [dzwell gmail] I just realized, looking over my mailing list subscripions, that I think
|     | | | | 267742 [perrin apoth] Actually, I can respect that response, if only because it doesn't pretend
|     | | | + 267654 [vjoel path.b] Don't forget the "Oh noes!"  ;)
|     | | | + 267659 [grzm seespot] You may add another definite "nay" on my behalf.
|     | | | + 267668 [roy.britten ] Add my definite nay, for the reasons stated elsewhere in the thread.
|     | | + 267676 [james graypr] I'm done with this no-longer-civil-conversation, but I need to add a
|     | |   267702 [_mwryder wor] I notice that some messages are still not being propagated properly
|     | + 267632 [perrin apoth] The issue is being worked around in many cases by people who would find
|     | + 267711 [ shot hot.pl] I vote against, as (a) I believe mailing list traffic should be either
|     + 267628 [perrin apoth] Sorting by the To: line means that all the sorting you get is going to be
+ 267276 [warlickt ope] One more reason for objection: Many people use the [LABEL] notation for
| 267377 [perrin apoth] So . . . are we somehow prevented from adding [ANN] after [RUBY]?
| 267650 [warlickt ope] Not technically, just preference... line length.
+ 267277 [djberg96 gma] No.
+ 267292 [apeiros gmx.] Another "No" vote here. As mentioned: you can always let your e-mail app
| 267320 [matthias wae] Most people are not aware of the possibility to filter automatically
| 267379 [perrin apoth] Something tells me that those who object to the list software adding
+ 267352 [celtic sairy] I disagree. I think today's mail clients *should* be expected to be able
| 267380 [perrin apoth] I don't think anyone was saying that MUAs shouldn't be expected to be
+ 267397 [transfire gm] On Sep 2, 3:48 pm, "Devi Web Development" <devi.webmas...@gmail.com>
| 267633 [perrin apoth] Maybe because some of us *like* our MUAs.  That was a fairly insensitive,
| 267655 [transfire gm] Why would you ever take offense to such a statement? Dude, I think
| 267656 [perrin apoth] Any time you tell someone to completely change the tools (s)he uses,
| + 267660 [znmeb cesmai] Ah, but this happens in the corporate world all the time. Because half
| | 267743 [perrin apoth] I didn't realize ruby-talk was a corporation.  Thanks for clearing that
| + 267665 [rimantas gma] What if they don't? I suppose MUAs which cannot handle this stuff
| | 267744 [perrin apoth] Um . . . it wasn't suggested that we should try to accomodate the
| | + 267746 [james graypr] You have easily been the most abusive member of this thread.
| | | 267748 [perrin apoth] My "abusiveness" has been limited to pointing out where others are
| | + 267756 [browning pac] ~N ~h ruby-talk  =20
| | | 267757 [perrin apoth] Not lately.  Thanks for the reminder.
| | | 267835 [reid.thompso] additionally, ( and you may already be using it ) something like
| | | 267879 [perrin apoth] I've been using color indexes, but the nature of my work is such that I
| | + 267798 [rimantas gma] Not having different preferences, but trying to force them on others.
| |   267804 [perrin apoth] So who's trying to force preferences on others?  From what I can see,
| |   267864 [apeiros gmx.] I'm sorry but I feel the same as he does.
| |   267883 [perrin apoth] I guess you would feel privileged to be told that to solve your problems
| |   + 267897 [ymendel pobo] regret this response.  This time I can't help myself.
| |   | 267915 [perrin apoth] I'm not so rude as to send out emails to the list with the subject line
| |   | 268097 [logancapaldo] Who said anything about sending out emails like that? When the email
| |   + 267908 [apeiros gmx.] No need to be so aggressive.
| |     267916 [perrin apoth] So . . . what, other people get a free pass for choosing words "badly"
| |     267924 [apeiros gmx.] I think wording like "piss poor attitude" is rather clearly crossing the
| |     267933 [perrin apoth] I didn't say it was accidental.  I said I was pointing out when someone
| + 267677 [transfire gm] No. First of all, that assumes I had foreknowledge that you had
|   267747 [perrin apoth] You've got that backwards.  Your statement assumes that others *haven't*
+ 267420 [lists bertra] You can easily build the feature yourself when you like
  267422 [lists bertra] Then, of course, you should remove it by hand every time you
  + 267635 [perrin apoth] For purposes of courtesy, I haven't done anything like that, despite the
  | 267649 [lists bertra] That's what I meant. I agree changing subject lines is no
  | 267653 [perrin apoth] All that searching shouldn't really be necessary, as long as you keep
  + 268194 [devi.webmast] In short, it looks like people on average would prefer it stay the way it
    268195 [phrexianreap] Just a quick question; Why not add in the X-ML-Name (it was refered to
    268200 [vjoel path.b] X-ML-Name: ruby-talk