218215-219491 subjects 218696-261334

tabs and parse errors with Ruby 1.8.4 and Windows
218404 [wjrogers@te ] This is a cross-post from the Rails list in hopes of getting some
+ 218421 [TimHunter@nc] You don't say what version of RMagick you're using but I'm assuming it's
| + 218424 [wjrogers@te ] Timothy,
| + 218428 [ara.t.howard] can you elaborate tim?
|   218437 [sastph@sa .c] Of course, Ara.
|   + 218440 [ara.t.howard] thanks alot tim.  i for one, am also pulling for an mingw compiler.
|   + 218441 [ml.chibbs@gm] You are correct, no decision has been made yet. We just began talks
+ 218458 [wilsonb@gm i] Just chiming in to say that I get these as well. I've just been
  218475 [dbalmain.ml@] I'd love to know what is causing this problem. I tried reproducing it
  + 218479 [ara.t.howard] i'm guessing a different def if isspace or issacii - i've seen issues with
  | 218485 [wilsonb@gm i] Yeah. I'm not using the one-click installer here, but rather the
  + 218486 [wjrogers@te ] Are you using a Rails application to test? It only happens for me in
    218531 [dbalmain.ml@] No, I wasn't. I'll try that.

[OT] double messages
218418 [dchelimsky@g] I'm seeing all the messages I send to this list show up twice. Are you
+ 218419 [angus@qu va ] ...
| + 218422 [dchelimsky@g] Thank you Carlos. I talk enough as it is and was concerned I'd burn
| + 218429 [jean.helou@g] "It's just that ruby-talk's
|   218431 [lukfugl@gm i] I was the author of that original document. Unfortunately, when it
+ 218420 [pseudo.meta@] Yes, me too. I wondered if it's an odd gmail bug. Certainly nobody on
+ 218434 [jgarvin.list] No!  That's one of my peeves with the Rails-Talk list.

ActiveRecord on JRuby
218432 [daniel@vo lk] How stable is the ActiveRecord lib in the JRuby environment? Are there

BFTS (was Re: RubySpec Wiki in full swing)
218438 [znmeb@ce ma ] Well ... you're not the only one who wants to get their hands on BFTS.

218442 [oliver.march] Dear Ruby fellows,

active record question
218454 [sambient@gm ] ...
218474 [jan.svitok@g] I suppose you can clean up the serialized form via custom attribute
218480 [sambient@gm ] ...
218536 [eden.li@gm i] The "tried and true" method I think you're hinting at involves exactly

rubyforge update
218456 [tom@in oe he] The machine appears to be having problems, perhaps a cooling fan died or
218462 [drnicwilliam] So many projects in one folder. Yummy :)
218484 [tom@in oe he] 006/10/rubyforge_down.ht

Bug: right shift (>>) for Bignum?
218488 [johan556@gm ] I think I have stumbled on a bug in the right shift method on Bignums.
218489 [johan556@gm ] Sorry for the mail here on Ruby-talk.

Rubyists of Second Life Meeting - JRuby by Charles O. Nutter - 18 October 2006 6:00 PM Pacific
218494 [rmarkstout@g] ...
218796 [rick.denatal] Linux users need not apply. SIGH :-(
218804 [kbloom@gm il] Ken Bloom. PhD candidate. Linguistic Cognition Laboratory.
218816 [Charles.O.Nu] ...which actually works pretty well, so long as you don't need sound or

Problem with SOAP and Commision Junction web services
218497 [chris.mohr@g] I'm new to Ruby and Web Services.
218530 [eden.li@gm i] Never seen this before, it seems safe to ignore this... for now.
218542 [chris.mohr@g] Thank you for the very detailed reply...it helped a lot.
218544 [eden.li@gm i] Hrm.  That's strange.  I've been using CJ without that warning for
220918 [nakahiro@sa ] Thanks eden.
362849 [mikyd412@gm ] I have to use the commission junction as a affiliator for my upcoming

_why ... I need your contact info.
218502 [jeff@da k- i] _why
218503 [curtis.schof] why@whytheluckystiff.net

Trouble Filtering the \ character
218506 [comprug@gm i] In my application, I cannot allow the user to enter the "\" character in
+ 218511 [jim@cr ss ey] Try sURL.include? "\\"
| 218512 [comprug@gm i] Yep, that works - I can't believe I didn't think about it. Thanks for
+ 218525 [david@va ln ] n=20
  218558 [interfecus@g] When your skin gets exposed to UV light the cells are damaged by the

In the year 2525
218522 [jimvtess@gm ] Is there a reason why Time.local can't handle dates beyond 2038?  I know
+ 218526 [david@va ln ] w=20
| + 218528 [khaines@en g] Yes.
| | 218532 [billk@ct .c ] DateTime sounds nice.  As cool as ruby's automatic Fixnum -> Bignum
| + 218549 [ruby-lang@da] And brings interesting portability issues (not only for ruby).
+ 218551 [invalid@gm .] Never rely on future times...
+ 218574 [Charles.O.Nu] It works in JRuby...would that be considered an incompatibility, or is
  + 218576 [Charles.O.Nu] In light of the x86_64 responses, I'd wager it's ok :) I don't know what
  + 218590 [matz@ru y- a] I think it is an OK diversion.
    + 218591 [ara.t.howard] you'll put us all out of work matz - think of all the contracts in 2037!
    | 218593 [znmeb@ce ma ] Ah, but that assumes people will still be using 32-bit machines then. I
    + 218592 [dblack@wo bl] It's definitely an incompatibility, though, in the sense that it has
      + 218594 [twifkak@co c] Except on 64-bit machines.
      + 218628 [billk@ct .c ] $ ruby -ve 'p Time.now.strftime("%F %T")'
        218645 [vjoel@pa h. ] Thanks for the warning.

[ANN] Sequence 0.1.0 Released
218539 [vikkous@gm i] Sequence version 0.1.0 has been released!
+ 218540 [hal9000@hy e] Sounds interesting... is it better than Eric M's Cursor
| 218569 [vikkous@gm i] Well, Sequence is faster than Cursor for most things. I haven't
| 218575 [eric.mahurin] ...
+ 218560 [Bil.Kleb@NA ] This is why I especially like this community -- you have

Re: In the year 2525, afloat
218541 [skurapat@uc ] Furthermore, what about automatic Float -> BigDecimal conversion?
218552 [david@va ln ] Wouldn't that only be possible if the processor reports if an IEEE
218554 [vincent.four] I think that basically every operation on a number which doesn't have
218564 [skurapat@uc ] Well, manually applying BigDecimal wherever necessary for
+ 218565 [david@va ln ] Yes, but there's performance losses, and performance losses. For the
+ 218566 [vincent.four] I completely agree with this approach. However, you will find that you

Evaluating XPaths with indices in HPricot
218559 [peter@ru yr ] I have been asking this a few days ago, and since I got no response and

WMP WIN32OLE in Ruby/IRB problem
218561 [MikeHoare@my] The following code plays the playlist thourgh IRB in FXRI, but playback
218965 [patrick@pk p] I'm seeing the same problem here. I thought it was something funky that

Euruko 06, Nov 4 and 5, Please make up your mind till Tuesday evening
218562 [m94asr@gm il] as previously announced the European Ruby conference will take place
218570 [a2800276@gm ] I'll definately attent (train and hotel are booked). Should I add a
218589 [m94asr@gm il] Please add yourself to the wiki.

218563 [zapz.21@gm i] ...

RubyConf 2006 ticket available
218567 [probinson@gm] I cannot attend RubyConf so I'm selling my ticket for $125 (which is
+ 218568 [ara.t.howard] i could buy it.  unless it's already gone...
+ 218573 [Charles.O.Nu] I'm waiting for the day when people start scalping their conference

ruby/GTK : Embedded terminal or redirecting process output
218571 [faivrem@gm i] Using ruby-gnome2 (gtk) I'd like to embed a terminal in a window, or
+ 218679 [skurapat@uc ] If you just want to get a list of files in a directory, Ruby
+ 218832 [kou@co mi ng] What about Ruby/VTE? Ruby/VTE is included in Ruby-GNOME2 since

Ruby vs. Rails
218577 [gilesb@gm il] OK, this question came up on a local list, and I don't have the answer.
+ 218579 [thomas.adam2] Yes.
| + 218581 [hal9000@hy e] No, I disagree. Most or many of the copycats are inferior to Rails
| | + 218583 [alibby@ta ge] Curiously, how does rails compare to Catalyst.  I'm a long
| | | 218586 [znmeb@ce ma ] Just on the off chance nobody else speaks up, get a copy of David
| | | 218597 [alibby@ta ge] Will do, thanks for the feedback.
| | + 218587 [znmeb@ce ma ] I don't know about other Python web app frameworks, but I don't think
| |   + 218601 [hal9000@hy e] I didn't know that. I'm not a Python guy.
| |   + 218637 [gilesb@gm il] Can you elaborate on that? Your statement about the history of Django
| |     218642 [znmeb@ce ma ] Well, I would favor Rails for applications like BaseCamp and Django for
| |     218669 [gilesb@gm il] I've seen "Snakes and Rubies" -- I got the impression that they didn't
| + 218641 [gilesb@gm il] why?
|   218643 [ben@bl yt in] I think the problem is that your question is a little too specific.
+ 218585 [james.britt@] Starting a thread with a pejorative assertion is going to seriously
| 218636 [gilesb@gm il] well, that's a good point. many similar frameworks aren't actually
+ 218588 [znmeb@ce ma ] I'm not in the general habit of feeding trolls, but in this case I think
| 218638 [gilesb@gm il] I have certainly learnt this lesson.
| 218651 [znmeb@ce ma ] 1. R is certainly not a "main stream" language in the sense that Perl or
| 218673 [gilesb@gm il] The R folks I know do complexity theory, ABM, stuff like that.
| 218684 [znmeb@ce ma ] I'm not sure how DHH and the original Rails team came to the decision to
| 218771 [gilesb@gm il] It's documented. I've read it. It's relevant but it doesn't entirely
| 218863 [pseudo.meta@] You're very clever, young man, but it's turtles all the way down.
| 218890 [rick.denatal] Ah, grasshopper, but what are those turtles made of?  Molecules =>
+ 218596 [twifkak@co c] Try 'em all out, and see for yourself. I, for one, don't care. That's
| + 218598 [MonkeeSage@g] *Tommy Chong voice* Wow man, that's totally far out and stuff. You
| + 218607 [znmeb@ce ma ] Wow ... Alan Perlis ... that takes me back to the infancy of programming
|   + 218612 [shevegen@li ] "Starting a thread with a pejorative assertion is going to seriously
|   + 218854 [martindemell] Surely there should be at least one Algollike language in that list -
|     218896 [znmeb@ce ma ] For a very long time, most of my programming was in either Fortran or
|     219018 [jwkenne@at g] And automatic storage and adjustable arrays and the ternary operator
|     219021 [znmeb@ce ma ] Well, despite the fact that Chuck Moore cut his programming teeth on
|     219022 [hal9000@hy e] Not to mention that Pascal is also descended from Algol, thus taking in
|     + 219028 [rdm@cf l. om] Although COBOL is not my favorite tool, I don't know of
|     | + 219059 [josselin@wa ] yeap...  I've seen a lot of big 4x4 SUV downtown... not the environment
|     | | 219061 [pseudo.meta@] That's what Java's for these days. The AS/400 Java implementation is
|     | + 219216 [jwkenne@at g] PL/I and Ada '95. But the current ISO COBOL has finally lost most of
|     |   219219 [znmeb@ce ma ] PL/I was intended to replace both Fortran and COBOL. In fact it did
|     |   + 219220 [wgrosso@wg o] Well, there's JPL/I.
|     |   + 219264 [pseudo.meta@] Ada never took off outside defence and aerospace industries, so it's
|     |   + 219362 [jwkenne@at g] Yes.
|     |     219408 [rick.denatal] Only in the sense that the source was available, most commonly on
|     |     219423 [jwkenne@at g] The complete source of OS/360 and other 360 operating systems (including
|     + 219143 [jeff@sc wa c] "the" country?
+ 218615 [pseudo.meta@] Well, yes. There's nothing about Rails that mean it can't be done in
+ 218655 [zedshaw@ze s] Wait, oh man this is good.  Ok, I totally missed this but did you actually advocate sex with goats or were you joking?
  + 218667 [gilesb@gm il] Sorry to disappoint you but I was just joking. I'm also fairly certain
  + 218786 [halostatue@g] Giles was actually booted because he was hostile, abrasive, and
    218819 [gilesb@gm il] Liar. You know it was all about the goats.

RubyGarden mirror ?
218584 [adam.skobiPl] I was wondering if there's a mirror of RubyGarden. There was a nice

ANN: sme-configdb v0.1 released
218595 [msoulier@gm ] ===================

[ANN] HTML reporter for Test::Unit
218600 [ruby@be cu t] ...
+ 218619 [robmnl@gm il] ...
| 218621 [robmnl@gm il] ...
| + 218632 [ruby@be cu t] Thanks for the feedback.  I'll take a look at adding email support.
| + 219078 [ruby@be cu t] ...
+ 218627 [cdcarter@gm ] ...
| 218631 [ruby@be cu t] I may open the code at some point in the future, but not in the near
+ 218652 [ezmobius@gm ] Hey Benjamin-
+ 218676 [rossrt@ro co] Hmm, pretty cool idea, but it doesn't seem to be picking up my test
| 218680 [ruby@be cu t] I took a look in the logs and it looks like your test results were
+ 218691 [timkuntz@gm ] ...
  + 218693 [gregory.t.br] Is that 'class attribute accessor'?  If so, try just replacing it with
  | + 218718 [ruby@be cu t] Thanks for the suggestion... I forgot to switch mental gears from
  | + 218723 [dblack@wo bl] If it's the Rails cattr_accessor then it uses class variables rather
  + 218702 [rossrt@ro co] Ahh, I thought I'd added a typo when pasting in the app/user stuff off
  | 218720 [ruby@be cu t] ...
  | 218731 [rossrt@ro co] Yeah, that's got it, And it *is* pretty cool, too :)
  + 218719 [ruby@be cu t] ...

binding parameters in ruby/postres queries
218624 [ljw1001@gm i] I'm using the postgres library and trying to improve the performance of
+ 218625 [wierdbro@gm ] Now, I've never used the postgres library, but if the method is
+ 218626 [david@va ln ] A prepared statement might be a better optimisation than using bind

Fwd: Posix Pangrams (#97) - Quicksolution
218634 [james@gr yp ] ...

how to concatenate all the lines into one string
218646 [chen_li3@ya ] I am new to Ruby. I just wonder how I can concatenate all the lines from
+ 218647 [david@va ln ] m=20
+ 218648 [thomas.adam2] a=File.open("/home/n6tadam/.xsession").read.gsub!('\n', ' ')
  218650 [shevegen@li ] Or maybe

Conditional class extension
218658 [transfire@gm] Is there a better way to do conditional class extension?
+ 218660 [vjoel@pa h. ] if defined? Bar
+ 218661 [flori@ni e. ] if defined? Foo::Bar
+ 218672 [rossrt@ro co] Just a small change, but why not just ask if const_defined? ?
  218692 [transfire@gm] Oh yea! :-)

|| explanation in ruby... in pseudolanguage
218663 [tuka@yo n. e] I am trying to get my head around the || symbol used extensively in
+ 218674 [ruby@mu rm n] ...
| 218677 [owlmanatt@gm] ...
+ 218678 [TimHunter@nc] In these examples the || delimit the argument list to the block, similar
+ 218687 [dave@bu t. d] You're right, assignment is correct. Imagine a special variable
  218762 [tuka@yo n. e] Thanks for the input guys. This really helps.
  218776 [dave@bu t. d] You're welcome. Glad to be of service.
  218817 [ruby@mu rm n] Sorry about not understanding your question right...
  218861 [tom.armitage] Interesting - I tend to think of it as "as", which doesn't
  218862 [dblack@wo bl] Possibly...
  218866 [matz@ru y- a] Not in 1.9, where block parameters are local to the block, since
  218897 [ara.t.howard] i know this has been discussed many times, and block locals definitely makes
  218901 [matz@ru y- a] Yes.
  218916 [ara.t.howard] hmmm.  it's kinda like 'scope coercion'.  seems kinda slippery - like
  + 218925 [keith@au io ] This seems like a no-brainer to me (it hadn't even occurred to me that
  + 218929 [matz@ru y- a] I think I get the analogy here.
  + 218934 [robert.dober] ...
    218943 [vjoel@pa h. ] Instance vars complicate threaded code.
    218949 [ara.t.howard] so do threads!  ;-)
    218964 [robert.dober] ...

[ANN] Phoenix Ruby Users Group October Meeting.  NEW LOCATION!
218665 [james.britt@] The Phoenix Ruby Users Group will meet this Monday, Oct. 9, at 6:30 PM.

ZenProfile: Bus Error on OS X
218666 [f@an re s- .] I tried ZenProfile with both 1.8.4 and 1.8.5 from Darwinports. I get the
218686 [ryand-ruby@z] Start by filing a bug. Not writing a general ruby mailing list.

How to use a class
218668 [chen_li3@ya ] Thank you all for taking your time and replying my previous post.
218671 [david@va ln ] I=20
218675 [chen_li3@ya ] Thanks David,

Error at "bison parse.y" when compiling Ruby with MinGW
218681 [jeffz_2002@y] I'm trying to build Ruby from source with MinGW (Windows XP SP 2), and
218685 [matz@ru y- a] Perhaps something wrong in your bison template file, bison.simple.
218690 [jeffz_2002@y] Interestingly, I didn't have this file, and when I searched the

global rake tasks
218682 [esad.nospam@] Does rake support some kind of 'global' tasks that would be loaded
218784 [invalid@gm .] $ rake --help | grep -B 1 "import\|equire"