218215-219491 subjects 218698-219508

^ tabs and parse errors with Ruby 1.8.4 and Windows
218404 [wjrogers ter] This is a cross-post from the Rails list in hopes of getting some
+ 218421 [TimHunter nc] You don't say what version of RMagick you're using but I'm assuming it's
| + 218424 [wjrogers ter] Timothy,
| + 218428 [ara.t.howard] can you elaborate tim?
|   218437 [sastph sas.c] Of course, Ara.
|   + 218440 [ara.t.howard] thanks alot tim.  i for one, am also pulling for an mingw compiler.
|   + 218441 [ml.chibbs gm] You are correct, no decision has been made yet. We just began talks
+ 218458 [wilsonb gmai] Just chiming in to say that I get these as well. I've just been
  218475 [dbalmain.ml ] I'd love to know what is causing this problem. I tried reproducing it
  + 218479 [ara.t.howard] i'm guessing a different def if isspace or issacii - i've seen issues with
  | 218485 [wilsonb gmai] Yeah. I'm not using the one-click installer here, but rather the
  + 218486 [wjrogers ter] Are you using a Rails application to test? It only happens for me in
    218531 [dbalmain.ml ] No, I wasn't. I'll try that.

^ [OT] double messages
218418 [dchelimsky g] I'm seeing all the messages I send to this list show up twice. Are you
+ 218419 [angus quovad] ...
| + 218422 [dchelimsky g] Thank you Carlos. I talk enough as it is and was concerned I'd burn
| + 218429 [jean.helou g] "It's just that ruby-talk's
|   218431 [lukfugl gmai] I was the author of that original document. Unfortunately, when it
+ 218420 [pseudo.meta ] Yes, me too. I wondered if it's an odd gmail bug. Certainly nobody on
+ 218434 [jgarvin.list] No!  That's one of my peeves with the Rails-Talk list.

^ ActiveRecord on JRuby
218432 [daniel voelk] How stable is the ActiveRecord lib in the JRuby environment? Are there

^ BFTS (was Re: RubySpec Wiki in full swing)
218438 [znmeb cesmai] Well ... you're not the only one who wants to get their hands on BFTS.

^ getstatusoutput
218442 [oliver.march] Dear Ruby fellows,

^ active record question
218454 [sambient gma] Sorry guys, I try and keep these sorts of questions to the Rails list but
218474 [jan.svitok g] I suppose you can clean up the serialized form via custom attribute
218480 [sambient gma] I was wondering if there was a tried and true method.  I'd imagine this is a
218536 [eden.li gmai] The "tried and true" method I think you're hinting at involves exactly

^ rubyforge update
218456 [tom infoethe] The machine appears to be having problems, perhaps a cooling fan died or
218462 [drnicwilliam] So many projects in one folder. Yummy :)
218484 [tom infoethe] 006/10/rubyforge_down.ht

^ Bug: right shift (>>) for Bignum?
218488 [johan556 gma] I think I have stumbled on a bug in the right shift method on Bignums.
218489 [johan556 gma] Sorry for the mail here on Ruby-talk.

^ Rubyists of Second Life Meeting - JRuby by Charles O. Nutter - 18 October 2006 6:00 PM Pacific
218494 [rmarkstout g] Join us in the virtual world of Second Life and learn about JRuby!
218796 [rick.denatal] Linux users need not apply. SIGH :-(
218804 [kbloom gmail] Ken Bloom. PhD candidate. Linguistic Cognition Laboratory.
218816 [Charles.O.Nu] ...which actually works pretty well, so long as you don't need sound or

^ Problem with SOAP and Commision Junction web services
218497 [chris.mohr g] I'm new to Ruby and Web Services.
218530 [eden.li gmai] Never seen this before, it seems safe to ignore this... for now.
218542 [chris.mohr g] Thank you for the very detailed reply...it helped a lot.
218544 [eden.li gmai] Hrm.  That's strange.  I've been using CJ without that warning for
220918 [nakahiro sar] Thanks eden.

^ _why ... I need your contact info.
218502 [jeff dark-li] _why
218503 [curtis.schof] why@whytheluckystiff.net

^ Trouble Filtering the \ character
218506 [comprug gmai] In my application, I cannot allow the user to enter the "\" character in
+ 218511 [jim crossley] Try sURL.include? "\\"
| 218512 [comprug gmai] Yep, that works - I can't believe I didn't think about it. Thanks for
+ 218525 [david vallne] n=20
  218558 [interfecus g] When your skin gets exposed to UV light the cells are damaged by the

^ In the year 2525
218522 [jimvtess gma] Is there a reason why Time.local can't handle dates beyond 2038?  I know
+ 218526 [david vallne] w=20
| + 218528 [khaines enig] Yes.
| | 218532 [billk cts.co] DateTime sounds nice.  As cool as ruby's automatic Fixnum -> Bignum
| + 218549 [ruby-lang da] And brings interesting portability issues (not only for ruby).
+ 218551 [invalid gmx.] Never rely on future times...
+ 218574 [Charles.O.Nu] It works in JRuby...would that be considered an incompatibility, or is
  + 218576 [Charles.O.Nu] In light of the x86_64 responses, I'd wager it's ok :) I don't know what
  + 218590 [matz ruby-la] I think it is an OK diversion.
    + 218591 [ara.t.howard] you'll put us all out of work matz - think of all the contracts in 2037!
    | 218593 [znmeb cesmai] Ah, but that assumes people will still be using 32-bit machines then. I
    + 218592 [dblack wobbl] It's definitely an incompatibility, though, in the sense that it has
      + 218594 [twifkak comc] Except on 64-bit machines.
      + 218628 [billk cts.co] $ ruby -ve 'p Time.now.strftime("%F %T")'
        218645 [vjoel path.b] Thanks for the warning.

^ [ANN] Sequence 0.1.0 Released
218539 [vikkous gmai] Sequence version 0.1.0 has been released!
+ 218540 [hal9000 hype] Sounds interesting... is it better than Eric M's Cursor
| 218569 [vikkous gmai] Well, Sequence is faster than Cursor for most things. I haven't
| 218575 [eric.mahurin] Sorry I haven't been working on Cursor lately.  I will readily admit that
+ 218560 [Bil.Kleb NAS] This is why I especially like this community -- you have

^ Re: In the year 2525, afloat
218541 [skurapat ucs] Furthermore, what about automatic Float -> BigDecimal conversion?
218552 [david vallne] Wouldn't that only be possible if the processor reports if an IEEE
218554 [vincent.four] I think that basically every operation on a number which doesn't have
218564 [skurapat ucs] Well, manually applying BigDecimal wherever necessary for
+ 218565 [david vallne] Yes, but there's performance losses, and performance losses. For the
+ 218566 [vincent.four] I completely agree with this approach. However, you will find that you

^ Evaluating XPaths with indices in HPricot
218559 [peter rubyra] I have been asking this a few days ago, and since I got no response and

^ WMP WIN32OLE in Ruby/IRB problem
218561 [MikeHoare my] The following code plays the playlist thourgh IRB in FXRI, but playback
218965 [patrick pksp] I'm seeing the same problem here. I thought it was something funky that

^ Euruko 06, Nov 4 and 5, Please make up your mind till Tuesday evening
218562 [m94asr gmail] as previously announced the European Ruby conference will take place
218570 [a2800276 gma] I'll definately attent (train and hotel are booked). Should I add a
218589 [m94asr gmail] Please add yourself to the wiki.

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218563 [zapz.21 gmai] unsubscribe

^ RubyConf 2006 ticket available
218567 [probinson gm] I cannot attend RubyConf so I'm selling my ticket for $125 (which is
+ 218568 [ara.t.howard] i could buy it.  unless it's already gone...
+ 218573 [Charles.O.Nu] I'm waiting for the day when people start scalping their conference

^ ruby/GTK : Embedded terminal or redirecting process output
218571 [faivrem gmai] Using ruby-gnome2 (gtk) I'd like to embed a terminal in a window, or
+ 218679 [skurapat ucs] If you just want to get a list of files in a directory, Ruby
+ 218832 [kou cozmixng] What about Ruby/VTE? Ruby/VTE is included in Ruby-GNOME2 since

^ Ruby vs. Rails
218577 [gilesb gmail] OK, this question came up on a local list, and I don't have the answer.
+ 218579 [thomas.adam2] Yes.
| + 218581 [hal9000 hype] No, I disagree. Most or many of the copycats are inferior to Rails
| | + 218583 [alibby tange] Curiously, how does rails compare to Catalyst.  I'm a long
| | | 218586 [znmeb cesmai] Just on the off chance nobody else speaks up, get a copy of David
| | | 218597 [alibby tange] Will do, thanks for the feedback.
| | + 218587 [znmeb cesmai] I don't know about other Python web app frameworks, but I don't think
| |   + 218601 [hal9000 hype] I didn't know that. I'm not a Python guy.
| |   + 218637 [gilesb gmail] Can you elaborate on that? Your statement about the history of Django
| |     218642 [znmeb cesmai] Well, I would favor Rails for applications like BaseCamp and Django for
| |     218669 [gilesb gmail] I've seen "Snakes and Rubies" -- I got the impression that they didn't
| + 218641 [gilesb gmail] why?
|   218643 [ben bleythin] I think the problem is that your question is a little too specific.
+ 218585 [james.britt ] Starting a thread with a pejorative assertion is going to seriously
| 218636 [gilesb gmail] well, that's a good point. many similar frameworks aren't actually
+ 218588 [znmeb cesmai] I'm not in the general habit of feeding trolls, but in this case I think
| 218638 [gilesb gmail] I have certainly learnt this lesson.
| 218651 [znmeb cesmai] 1. R is certainly not a "main stream" language in the sense that Perl or
| 218673 [gilesb gmail] The R folks I know do complexity theory, ABM, stuff like that.
| 218684 [znmeb cesmai] I'm not sure how DHH and the original Rails team came to the decision to
| 218771 [gilesb gmail] It's documented. I've read it. It's relevant but it doesn't entirely
| 218863 [pseudo.meta ] You're very clever, young man, but it's turtles all the way down.
| 218890 [rick.denatal] Ah, grasshopper, but what are those turtles made of?  Molecules =>
+ 218596 [twifkak comc] Try 'em all out, and see for yourself. I, for one, don't care. That's
| + 218598 [MonkeeSage g] *Tommy Chong voice* Wow man, that's totally far out and stuff. You
| + 218607 [znmeb cesmai] Wow ... Alan Perlis ... that takes me back to the infancy of programming
|   + 218612 [shevegen lin] "Starting a thread with a pejorative assertion is going to seriously
|   + 218854 [martindemell] Surely there should be at least one Algollike language in that list -
|     218896 [znmeb cesmai] For a very long time, most of my programming was in either Fortran or
|     219018 [jwkenne attg] And automatic storage and adjustable arrays and the ternary operator
|     219021 [znmeb cesmai] Well, despite the fact that Chuck Moore cut his programming teeth on
|     219022 [hal9000 hype] Not to mention that Pascal is also descended from Algol, thus taking in
|     + 219028 [rdm cfcl.com] Although COBOL is not my favorite tool, I don't know of
|     | + 219059 [josselin wan] yeap...  I've seen a lot of big 4x4 SUV downtown... not the environment
|     | | 219061 [pseudo.meta ] That's what Java's for these days. The AS/400 Java implementation is
|     | + 219216 [jwkenne attg] PL/I and Ada '95. But the current ISO COBOL has finally lost most of
|     |   219219 [znmeb cesmai] PL/I was intended to replace both Fortran and COBOL. In fact it did
|     |   + 219220 [wgrosso wgro] Well, there's JPL/I.
|     |   + 219264 [pseudo.meta ] Ada never took off outside defence and aerospace industries, so it's
|     |   + 219362 [jwkenne attg] Yes.
|     |     219408 [rick.denatal] Only in the sense that the source was available, most commonly on
|     |     219423 [jwkenne attg] The complete source of OS/360 and other 360 operating systems (including
|     + 219143 [jeff schwabc] "the" country?
+ 218615 [pseudo.meta ] Well, yes. There's nothing about Rails that mean it can't be done in
+ 218655 [zedshaw zeds] Wait, oh man this is good.  Ok, I totally missed this but did you actually advocate sex with goats or were you joking?
  + 218667 [gilesb gmail] Sorry to disappoint you but I was just joking. I'm also fairly certain
  + 218786 [halostatue g] Giles was actually booted because he was hostile, abrasive, and
    218819 [gilesb gmail] Liar. You know it was all about the goats.

^ RubyGarden mirror ?
218584 [adam.skobiPl] I was wondering if there's a mirror of RubyGarden. There was a nice

^ ANN: sme-configdb v0.1 released
218595 [msoulier gma] ===================

^ [ANN] HTML reporter for Test::Unit
218600 [ruby bencurt] charset=US-ASCII;
+ 218619 [robmnl gmail] AWESOME!
| 218621 [robmnl gmail] It's great, I tested it.
| + 218632 [ruby bencurt] Thanks for the feedback.  I'll take a look at adding email support.
| + 219078 [ruby bencurt] charset=US-ASCII;
+ 218627 [cdcarter gma] This looks neat, but, will you ever be opening up the webapp source?
| 218631 [ruby bencurt] I may open the code at some point in the future, but not in the near
+ 218652 [ezmobius gma] Hey Benjamin-
+ 218676 [rossrt rosco] Hmm, pretty cool idea, but it doesn't seem to be picking up my test
| 218680 [ruby bencurt] I took a look in the logs and it looks like your test results were
+ 218691 [timkuntz gma] This is great. Easy to setup with my Rails tests.
  + 218693 [gregory.t.br] Is that 'class attribute accessor'?  If so, try just replacing it with
  | + 218718 [ruby bencurt] Thanks for the suggestion... I forgot to switch mental gears from
  | + 218723 [dblack wobbl] If it's the Rails cattr_accessor then it uses class variables rather
  + 218702 [rossrt rosco] Ahh, I thought I'd added a typo when pasting in the app/user stuff off
  | 218720 [ruby bencurt] charset=US-ASCII;
  | 218731 [rossrt rosco] Yeah, that's got it, And it *is* pretty cool, too :)
  + 218719 [ruby bencurt] charset=US-ASCII;

^ binding parameters in ruby/postres queries
218624 [ljw1001 gmai] I'm using the postgres library and trying to improve the performance of
+ 218625 [wierdbro gma] Now, I've never used the postgres library, but if the method is
+ 218626 [david vallne] A prepared statement might be a better optimisation than using bind

^ Fwd: Posix Pangrams (#97) - Quicksolution
218634 [james graypr] ...

^ how to concatenate all the lines into one string
218646 [chen_li3 yah] I am new to Ruby. I just wonder how I can concatenate all the lines from
+ 218647 [david vallne] m=20
+ 218648 [thomas.adam2] a=File.open("/home/n6tadam/.xsession").read.gsub!('\n', ' ')
  218650 [shevegen lin] Or maybe

^ Conditional class extension
218658 [transfire gm] Is there a better way to do conditional class extension?
+ 218660 [vjoel path.b] if defined? Bar
+ 218661 [flori nixe.p] if defined? Foo::Bar
+ 218672 [rossrt rosco] Just a small change, but why not just ask if const_defined? ?
  218692 [transfire gm] Oh yea! :-)

^ || explanation in ruby... in pseudolanguage
218663 [tuka yorn.ne] I am trying to get my head around the || symbol used extensively in
+ 218674 [ruby muerman] Well, || is just the standard boolean OR operator. What makes it a lot more
| 218677 [owlmanatt gm] In the context you're using it, I think what you're interested in is
+ 218678 [TimHunter nc] In these examples the || delimit the argument list to the block, similar
+ 218687 [dave burt.id] You're right, assignment is correct. Imagine a special variable
  218762 [tuka yorn.ne] Thanks for the input guys. This really helps.
  218776 [dave burt.id] You're welcome. Glad to be of service.
  218817 [ruby muerman] Sorry about not understanding your question right...
  218861 [tom.armitage] Interesting - I tend to think of it as "as", which doesn't
  218862 [dblack wobbl] Possibly...
  218866 [matz ruby-la] Not in 1.9, where block parameters are local to the block, since
  218897 [ara.t.howard] i know this has been discussed many times, and block locals definitely makes
  218901 [matz ruby-la] Yes.
  218916 [ara.t.howard] hmmm.  it's kinda like 'scope coercion'.  seems kinda slippery - like
  + 218925 [keith audiob] This seems like a no-brainer to me (it hadn't even occurred to me that
  + 218929 [matz ruby-la] I think I get the analogy here.
  + 218934 [robert.dober] <SNIP long but interesting stuff>
    218943 [vjoel path.b] Instance vars complicate threaded code.
    218949 [ara.t.howard] so do threads!  ;-)
    218964 [robert.dober] I could not have put it better,  well if instance variables complicate

^ [ANN] Phoenix Ruby Users Group October Meeting.  NEW LOCATION!
218665 [james.britt ] The Phoenix Ruby Users Group will meet this Monday, Oct. 9, at 6:30 PM.

^ ZenProfile: Bus Error on OS X
218666 [f andreas-s.] I tried ZenProfile with both 1.8.4 and 1.8.5 from Darwinports. I get the
218686 [ryand-ruby z] Start by filing a bug. Not writing a general ruby mailing list.

^ How to use a class
218668 [chen_li3 yah] Thank you all for taking your time and replying my previous post.
218671 [david vallne] I=20
218675 [chen_li3 yah] Thanks David,

^ Error at "bison parse.y" when compiling Ruby with MinGW
218681 [jeffz_2002 y] I'm trying to build Ruby from source with MinGW (Windows XP SP 2), and
218685 [matz ruby-la] Perhaps something wrong in your bison template file, bison.simple.
218690 [jeffz_2002 y] Interestingly, I didn't have this file, and when I searched the

^ global rake tasks
218682 [esad.nospam ] Does rake support some kind of 'global' tasks that would be loaded
218784 [invalid gmx.] $ rake --help | grep -B 1 "import\|equire"

^ where to start
218696 [pf auth.net.] I found there are some Ruby programs are running in this development
218697 [tjackiw gmai] Pet,
218700 [pf auth.net.] dispatch.rb a ruby script file. But I don't know how this both
218704 [jan.svitok g] As was said before, you have a rails application. It's not neccessary