188853-196319

^ Managing memory consumption
188853 [luke madstop] I've got a framework [1] that transfers files either locally or over
+ 188864 [zdennis mkte] Because ruby GC doesn't do compaction. I found out the hard way to, thanks to Guy Decoux and H. Yamamoto for pointing this out to me.
+ 188865 [luke madstop] Well, turns out this extra memory consumption only happens on my Solaris 10

^ ruby/tk HTML_Widget and href's
188856 [chris.alfeld] * Parse the html "<a href=foo>click me</a>" and display.
188876 [nagai ai.kyu] I'm very sorry, but I don't know why.
188877 [chris.alfeld] Yes, sorry.  I should have said as much.  I've run into similar issues
188879 [nagai ai.kyu] I don't think so.
188880 [nagai ai.kyu] Or,
188903 [chris.alfeld] Ah, I had not realized.  I saw the ClippingWindow code but hadn't
188904 [chris.alfeld] For anyone following this thread and interested, here's the third

^ Metar Weather Grabber
188863 [christopherw] I don't want to pay money to get weather feeds from a bunch of different
188866 [SimonKroeger] is there something wrong with the decoded data?
188871 [christopherw] Nope.

^ problem compiling ruby-1.8.4 on macintel
188870 [stephen.bann] I'm getting an error compiling ruby 1.8.4 on a mac book pro.
188873 [stephen.bann] I thought I had run make clean ... but after running it "again" I got

^ problem installing rubygems on mac intel/missing symbol _syckparse
188874 [stephen.bann] I'm having a problem installing rubygems-0.8.11 on my mac, I'm
188894 [caleb aei-te] You're likely to get more help if you start a new thread instead of

^ Strange Integer() behavior
188882 [patrick.t.jo] I am learning Ruby and have encountered an error on a call to
+ 188883 [hal9000 hype] The leading zero leads Ruby to think it's octal, but 9
+ 188884 [diazepam gma] Hey Patrick
  188885 [patrick.t.jo] Thank you both for the quick answer.
  188891 [shortcutter ] Well, if you want to use Integer then the obvious fix is to do str.sub /^0+/, ''
  188902 [robert.dober] +/, ''
  188906 [rossrt rosco] "oh eight".to_i + "038".to_i

^ Adding headers to a TMail object
188888 [mark scottis] I get a header that is set on a TMail object using
188895 [mark scottis] Bleh, ignore this.

^ Canada on Rails, Day One
188890 [alex.combas ] Just in case anyone is interested I've posted
188956 [alex.combas ] Well, Canada on Rails is all over now, but what a great
188995 [tom infoethe] Cool!  Any idea if the audio from the presentations will be available?

^ win32ole and wmi
188898 [rtilley vt.e] import wmi

^ wrong way to start thread
188899 [stephen.bann] Thanks for taking the time to point out the problem Caleb,

^ [QUIZ] Refactoring (#75)
188900 [james graypr] 1.  Please do not post any solutions or spoiler discussion for this quiz until
+ 188940 [pat.eyler gm] I've created a page on the wiki to hold refactorings as they are submitted.
+ 189062 [james graypr] I'll start us off this week.  (Thanks for the easy but educational
| 189098 [dave burt.id] Sorry, this is likely to be rather uninteresting, and I'm not even quite
+ 189159 [ilmari.heikk] Extract method calls (http://www.theserverside.com/articles/article.tss?l=AspectOrientedRefactoringPart1)

^ Default value for any type?
188905 [vshepelev im] def create_default(type)
+ 188907 [halostatue g] What should the default value for a Float be? What are you trying toreally do here?
| 188908 [vshepelev im] float(); //0.0
| + 188912 [dblack wobbl] I guess that's what I want to know too: why would you expect Ruby
| | 188915 [dblack wobbl] s/too\?/to?/ :-)
| + 188914 [desmarm gmai] I think that Austin's question about what you are trying to accomplish
|   188916 [vshepelev im] Hmmm... Maybe I beginning to understand your point. The task was: before
|   188917 [wilsonb gmai] If you haven't seen that, it may give you some ideas.
|   188920 [vshepelev im] Ooooooh! Looks really very interesting. Studying.
+ 188911 [matthew.moss] class Float

^ Calling instance_eval on a block in C
188918 [drjflam gmai] def eval_it(obj, &b)
+ 188924 [ryand-ruby z] Hey John,
| + 188925 [drjflam gmai] I think you're right. I've tried all sorts of combinations before posting
| + 188931 [ mfp acm.org] See [ruby-talk:180647].
+ 188958 [decoux moulo] moulon% cat a.c
  189175 [drjflam gmai] THANK YOU!!!!!!

^ GET doesnt seem to work in this case.
188921 [mksm.sama gm] I'm trying to grab some info off www.yellowbook.com for a specific city.
188922 [james_b neur] I think your browser is automatically handling the "object moved"

^ Stupid Question But
188926 [lprono77 gma] I'm very new to Ruby. We have a dedicated server from Rackspace and I
188927 [gerardo.sant] ruby -v
188928 [collinsj sea] whereis ruby
188929 [lprono77 gma] Thanks guys I'm trying that now

^ Google Summer of Code -- It's back
188932 [phurley gmai] I was wondering if there is anything equivalent to the Python Software
+ 188933 [dblack wobbl] There's Ruby Central (http://www.rubycentral.org).  We didn't make it
+ 188934 [pat.eyler gm] Ruby Central (if Chad, et al. are up to it)
| 188936 [dblack wobbl] I've just emailed Google expressing our interest.  Assuming they
| 188937 [ peter rt.sk] Coool, but don't forget about students (i.e. people eligible to
| + 188942 [gregory.t.br] hmm... would I be considered a student or a mentor? :)
| | 188955 [mksm.sama gm] That is indeed interesting. I hope Ruby manages to be part of it. I
| + 189021 [DXpublica te] Why not create a page in rubycentral for register possibly mentors and
| | 189022 [ peter rt.sk] Good idea! Count me in ;-) Btw we (i.e. Ruby/RoR) are still not there,
| | 189024 [dblack wobbl] I'm in touch with the people organizing it; they have said that they
| | 189107 [dblack wobbl] We're now listed, and after I finish my current travels (I'm flying
| | + 189125 [chanezon gma] Excellent, last week I have added rubycentral and yourself as the contact i=
| | | 189133 [nohmad gmail] Just an idea, "Ruby Language Specification 2.0"?I remember matz had mentioned he can willingly help writing before.
| | + 189326 [roys mindspr] As I understand it, projects neither have to be from scratch nor
| |   189340 [pat.eyler gm] Maybe someone would like to pick up rwb.  I'm happy to provide help,
| |   189351 [gerardo.sant] ruSH seemed nice too
| |   189357 [apkahl gmail] How about a specialized school CMS? School sites require other
| + 189103 [nic.kassis g] I'm eligible and would be interested on doing something for Ruby. It
|   + 189116 [halostatue g] Ruby.NET would be nice ;) But I think that's being worked on already, sort of.
|   | 189168 [ peter rt.sk] and for python, this is even nicer since it has the outcome of the
|   + 189176 [ruby anthrop] } I'm eligible and would be interested on doing something for Ruby. It
|     189183 [jake.mcarthu] I'm also eligible, and this is right up my ally. Would love to get
|     189194 [tanner.burso] +1
|     189231 [phurley gmai] 1. Rdoc/Ri integration (may require basically rewriting ri)
|     + 189232 [james graypr] I really like this idea.
|     | + 189245 [gregory.t.br] +1
|     | | 189363 [codeblogger ] Pgo+ID4gMy4gU3BlY2lhbGl6ZWQgQ01TIChjb250ZW50IG1hbmFnZW1lbnQgc3lzdGVtcykgZm9y
|     | | 189389 [halostatue g] -austin--Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com               * Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca
|     | + 189262 [nic.kassis g] I really like this idea. I have been thinking of a similar project for a
|     |   189318 [gregory.t.br] Our university uses BlackBoard.  It's a mess.
|     |   189330 [khaines enig] Take a look at Moodle.  It is implemented in PHP, but is a pretty decent piece
|     |   189334 [nic.kassis g] Good idea. I hear of moodle but never actually had a chance to use it in
|     |   189339 [znmeb cesmai] I'll second Moodle ... only problem with it is that it's written in PHP,
|     |   189341 [nic.kassis g] So, would there be an advantage to having a Rails CMS? I was also
|     |   189342 [znmeb cesmai] I don't know that there would be any advantage to a course management
|     |   + 189343 [nic.kassis g] Thanks for the input. I'll keep thinking.
|     |   + 189360 [rosejn gmail] Huh.  I don't know if you guys are actually using moodle or just
|     + 189233 [ peter rt.sk] Cool ideas... I like mainly 3)
|     | 189251 [phurley gmai] I just signed up to be a mentor with Ruby Central as the organization.
|     + 189237 [rosejn gmail] I'm in as well.  I'll be applying as a student and I'm willing to do
|     | 189253 [jake.mcarthu] charset=US-ASCII;
|     | + 189255 [jake.mcarthu] BTW, I don't think I want this posted on the ideas page. I'm going to
|     | + 189257 [ peter rt.sk] Wow what a great idea. BTW. do you know the online python-cookbook?
|     | | 189292 [jake.mcarthu] Thanks.
|     | + 189264 [khaines enig] You might take a look at Facets:  facets.rubyforge.org
|     |   + 189270 [anne wjh.har] Could a student work on ruby and opengl to make it easier to
|     |   | 189272 [vjoel path.b] A 3D canvas that's as easy to use as tk's 2D canvas, and integrates with
|     |   | 189273 [alex.combas ] I would like to join this as a student as well, thanks!
|     |   | 189274 [dblack wobbl] Student applications will be taken starting May 1; right now we're
|     |   | 189512 [agorilla gma] Well, I'm not looking to mentor, but I haven't seen anybody toss out
|     |   + 189275 [jake.mcarthu] Facets is more of a general library. My proposal works even for the
|     + 189259 [phil hagelb.] You mean like RAV?
|       189260 [phurley gmai] Yeah exactly like that :-),
+ 189509 [nic.kassis g] An mail module (thanks to who ever mentioned the need for this) that

^ Super-unstable Webrick on Windows 2000
188935 [bryan.duxbur] I'm using Ruby 1.8.4 on a Windows 2000 machine. When running anything
188939 [vox mechavox] Why not just use Mongrel[1]?
188941 [james_b neur] I believe Mongrel has native C code in there, but the gem package for
188943 [bryan.duxbur] Actually, I ran on 1.8.2 for a long time, too. The errors had exactly
188944 [phurley gmai] Mongrel is great, but this problem sounds like a mysql driver issue
188945 [bryan.duxbur] How would I go about getting an OS stack trace? Do you have any
188946 [phurley gmai] Been a long time since I used 2000, but do you have Visual C or any
188947 [bryan.duxbur] According to the VS.NET debugger, this is the call stack. Does this look
188948 [phurley gmai] Ok I admit I did not see what I was expecting, but let's look at
188949 [bryan.duxbur] File Type: EXECUTABLE IMAGE
188954 [corey.ssf.la] Hmm... MySQL.so compiled on a WinXP box?
188964 [bryan.duxbur] That's my guess. It always works for me on my WinXP laptop.
188975 [phurley gmai] Actually there is no smoking gun here -- the only dependencies are for

^ HighLine - examples for using "list"
188951 [sy1234 gmail] I'm still very green, and I find it easier to read code than
188959 [mike stok.ca] Have you tried playing with it?  I had a look at the docs and then
188965 [sy1234 gmail] I did play with it, but just wasn't able to figure out the proper syntax.
+ 188967 [sy1234 gmail] Ok, I played with it some more and it appears it won't do what I want.
| 188969 [james graypr] I don't really understand the goal, but perhaps this will give you
| 188971 [sy1234 gmail] This definitely points me in a direction I can work with.
| 188974 [sy1234 gmail] I'm definitely drifting off topls, but I suppose this is a feature I'd
| 188978 [james graypr] I'm not very clear on what feature you are requesting.
| 188984 [sy1234 gmail] It feels like HighLine can do this columnizing but I'm not using it right.
| 188985 [mike stok.ca] Sounds like you want something similar to a table layout where both
| 188987 [james graypr] Yeah, that's my feeling.  If you can separate the columns, you could
| 189018 [gregory.t.br] I had suggested this when I was working on the menu system a few
| 189025 [james graypr] I just think, if we are going to ask HighLine to do a lot of wicked
| + 189026 [sy1234 gmail] Although I've made / discovered some of the other little tools I've
| | + 189028 [james graypr] Are HighLine's ERB escapes not enough for this?  Can you show an
| | | 189034 [gregory.t.br] Hmm... this is really what those ERB escapes are for... so if there is
| | | 189043 [sy1234 gmail] I'm going to tinker and see if the need is indeed there.  I may do it
| | + 189076 [sy1234 gmail] Just to round off my comment in this thread...
| |   196319 [sy1234 gmail] ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com>,
| + 189033 [gregory.t.br] Hmm... this does sound interesting... and could definitely be good for
+ 188968 [james graypr] The list() method is also available inside HighLine's message

^ [ANN] Ruby-GetText-Package-1.3.0
188952 [mutoh highwa] Ruby-GetText-Package-1.4.0 is now available.

^ [ANN] Ruby-GetText-Package-1.4.0
188953 [mutoh highwa] Oops, The subject was wrong. 1.4.0 is right.

^ Bug: Requiring "breakpoint" causes the entire Rails framework to load.
188957 [alder.green ] 1. Ruby 1.8.4 (i386-mswin32)
+ 188963 [mtrier gmail] ruby -r debug 'filename.rb'
+ 188976 [florgro gmai] I'm the author of ruby-breakpoint and not exactly sure what is happening
  188980 [linguist gma] I'm no gems internals guru but it seems to me that when you require
  188983 [florgro gmai] Oh, it still bundles breakpoint? I guess that would be better solved by
  188986 [ mfp acm.org] This is a simple conflict between the two RubyGems packages; such things are
  + 188991 [linguist gma] Actually it's pulling in the one from the rails package.  Its
  + 189001 [alder.green ] What's the "require chain"?  And how exactly can I provide it?  I'll
    189005 [logancapaldo] charset=US-ASCII;
    189020 [alder.green ] Thanks, your solution worked. "require_gem 'ruby-breakpoint', '0.5.0'"
    189023 [linguist gma] Note that if you use require_gem 'ruby-breakpoint' instead of require

^ Typeout during RubyGems Install
188960 [Bil.Kleb nas] [Note: I'm reposting this to the mailing list since I think
+ 188994 [jim weirichh] There is no hook in RubyGems to allow this.  Sorry.
| 189054 [halostatue g] I am really hoping that one can be provided for the next version ofRubyGems. Bil's needs aren't the only needs.
+ 189006 [logancapaldo] charset=US-ASCII;
+ 189009 [ mfp acm.org] It is possible to abuse the support for building extensions in order

^ Raking RubyGems
188961 [Bil.Kleb nas] [Note: I'm reposting this to the mailing list since I think
188993 [jim weirichh] Good idea!  I've modified the Rakefile to do exactly that.

^ String#downcase for accented letters in UTF-8?
188962 [ml gioelebar] How can I convert to lowercase a string that contains accented characters

^ Re: [SPAM DETECT] String#downcase for accented letters in UTF-8?
188966 [fxn hashref.] # This library redefines String#tr so that it understands UTF-8.

^ comp.lang.ruby FAQ
188970 [hal9000 hype] RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2005-4-14)

^ Ruby Install vs. Gimp Install: how to make them both happy?
188972 [michael.prio] I've installed ruby via the 1-click installer with defaults selected
189004 [logancapaldo] charset=US-ASCII;

^ [ANN] "Ruby for Rails" now available in PDF!
188973 [dblack wobbl] Writing from Canada (just finished attending Canada on Rails, which
+ 188989 [pgquiles elp] What version of Rails does it talk about? 1.0? 1.1?
| 188990 [dblack wobbl] Version 1.0 of Rails and version 1.8.4 of Ruby.
+ 189100 [klancaster19] Sorry to be dense, but add "what"? I've tried adding the pdf and then
| + 189180 [agorilla gma] I agree, it is confusing.  If you go to the home page, it says you get
| + 189184 [ray warmroom] The manning site is different than it was when I tested this on
|   189201 [dblack wobbl] Yeah, I think this was part of the migration pains Manning has had in
+ 189252 [pjagielski g] Guys,

^ Ruby Game Programming
188979 [doug.bromley] There is quite a lot of resources in the Python community for "Python game
+ 188981 [hawkman.gelo] i was wondering about the same a few months back, and i would really like t=
+ 188988 [john_sips_te] __________________________________________________
| + 188999 [miken700 yah] On a related note, is there a module out there for
| | 189011 [ilmari.heikk] There's ruby/glew that lets you use GLSL shaders and some other GL extensions:http://rubyforge.org/projects/rubyglew
| | 189012 [cjwoodward g] I am writing a small game engine and I wanted to use ruby and sdl but
| | + 189014 [florgro gmai] Ruby-Gosu is usually faster than SDL (3D-accelerated), does more and is
| | + 189209 [ryand-ruby z] I have the tarball for rsdl if you still want it. Mail me directly if
| + 189000 [miken700 yah] On a related note, is there a module out there for
+ 189013 [badcherry ma] I'm in the process of writting a ruby game library with curses as its

^ Re: [Rails] [ANN] "Ruby for Rails" now available in PDF!
188992 [pat.eyler gm] David,
189178 [agorilla gma] Well, you said enough for me, I finally ordered it :)

^ understanding "[BUG] cross-thread violation on rb_gc()"
188996 [skurapat ucs] After some deep thought, I think I finally understand what the error
+ 188997 [skurapat ucs] Whoops, my mistake. The C program creates Ruby strings from C
+ 189007 [nobu ruby-la] No differences between objects created inside ruby_run() and
  189029 [skurapat ucs] Ah! Now I see. Thank you. :-)

^ rubygarden under sustained spam attack
188998 [pat.eyler gm] It looks like there's a continuing run of spam against the RubyGarden
189003 [logancapaldo] charset=US-ASCII;

^ Improved bundle making script..
189002 [steve waits.] I've finally had a chance to spend some time cleaning up my little
189142 [groups grand] Well, I know what a Bundle is in OSX, but I also was under the

^ non-interactive gem install impossible?
189008 [steve waits.] Select which gem to install for your platform (i686-linux)
+ 189042 [jim weirichh] Future versions of gems (probably in the 0.10.x series) will be smarter
| 189048 [steve waits.] Thanks Jim.
| + 189051 [dcorbin mach] Maybe you could write a shell script to do it?
| | 189057 [steve waits.] I'd rather fix gem.  But, I'll take a significant hit coming up to speed
| + 189091 [jim weirichh] Its part of the refactoring that will make local and remote gem installs
+ 189276 [zedshaw zeds] No idea really.  I also would like to know how I can clear out older gems
  189283 [tom infoethe] Hm.  Right now the gem index builder uses all the gems that it can
  189325 [jim weirichh] Hmmm ... I'm thinking that the gem index builder probably doesn't want
  189327 [tom infoethe] Oh, definitely, I agree.  I should have said, perhaps the script that