16502-25454

^ Playing with Ruby Syntax (was: Initial thoughts about Ruby From a Smalltalk Programmer)
16502 [jweirich one] Yes, I agree that I have occasionally wished for the ability to easily
+ 16504 [Dave Pragmat] When keyword arguments are introduced, it's possible that we might be
| + 16506 [mirian cosmi] This may be a bit of a tangent, but I've recently noticed that Ruby's
| + 16512 [matju sympat] If I know how those keyword arguments actually work (vaguely like "=>"
|   16513 [Dave Pragmat] However, adding keyword arguments to the call will allow the
|   16514 [gnhurst hurs] 1) why not also have block->proc conversion without keywords args?
|   16515 [Dave Pragmat] It just seems slightly tidier with them.
|   16518 [gnhurst hurs] hmm.
+ 16517 [s3225202 stu] I'm -extremely- greatful you brought this up. I realise now why it was

^ walking the ruby_frame list
16503 [victor fnord] I have a question about the frame list.  I am working on implementing
16537 [matz zetabit] I'm not really sure what you want.  Do you want the object that invoke
16545 [victor fnord] I am looking for the object that invoked the method.  Walking back up
16588 [matz zetabit] Does RCR#U015 "replace 'caller' with 'call_stack'" seem to help you?
16597 [victor fnord] Yes, that would help me out. Making the objects on the call stack explicitly
16614 [matz zetabit] You're not wrong.  Yes.  Yes.
16626 [victor fnord] Cool.  I will keep an eye on the changelogs for future releases, then, and

^ Smalltalk vs. Ruby
16505 [SAT MULTITEC] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
+ 16507 [glen enabled] A syntax that does not appear to come from a foreign planet. ;-)
| 16508 [ser germane-] Here, here.  Syntax is one of the most important aspects of a language for
+ 16516 [s3225202 stu] From what I've seen of Ruby so far, it is lacking in many areas covered
  16519 [wayne.blair ] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
  16521 [avi beta4.co] Well, how about
  16522 [wayne.blair ] points again. Syntax!
  16524 [avi beta4.co] Well, sure, but I thought
  16525 [wayne.blair ] Humourously enough, I wasn't even talking pseudo-smalltalk.  I just like it
  16530 [hal9000 hype] Precisely.

^ SV:  Smalltalk vs. Ruby
16509 [hvrosen worl] I'd love to hear Ron comment on this one!

^ forking server
16510 [joe vpop.net] Does anyone have any example code for a forking server?
+ 16511 [joe vpop.net] thanks,
+ 16520 [joe vpop.net] Here's a stab at a forking server.  The problem is that it exits
  16523 [joe vpop.net] Ah, I see the problem... I thought that the "trap" was working in the

^ alarm()
16526 [joe vpop.net] Is there a way to schedule a SIGALRM in ruby?
16527 [Dave Pragmat] Thread.new do
16531 [pit capitain] FYI, I tried Dave's example on Win NT and ruby 1.6.2 (2000-12-18)
16543 [hal9000 hype] I have seen this same behavior in the past.

^ why only nil and false are regarded as false?
16528 [steven harya] I would appreciate some explanation on why Ruby behaves like
16529 [Dave Pragmat] I suspect because the alternatives in other languages were error
+ 16532 [steven harya] # if string s is empty
| 16533 [gnhurst hurs] if s.empty?  then .... end  # assumes you know s is a string
+ 16534 [chjr gmx.net] Well I do have an example for this,
+ 16536 [matz zetabit] Yes.  Plus I wanted performance in boolean tests.  Current boolean
| + 16539 [WYS helbling] too bad we got two. One would have been enough!
| + 16571 [in6x059 publ] Ah, performance is the key.
+ 16544 [jweirich one] I am reminded of a thread on the python list a while back.  They were

^ Trapping method defs
16540 [feldt ce.cha] Is there some simple way to be notified (with method and class ids)
+ 16541 [decoux moulo] This is self, i.e.
| 16575 [feldt ce.cha] Of course, thanks. I worked too long on this to see the obvious. Thanks
+ 16542 [matju sympat] If your "id" here is Symbol, then I say a Symbol is not enough to identify
  16579 [feldt ce.cha] Ok. Matz?
  16580 [feldt ce.cha] But it won't work since we wont be notified if singleton_method_added is

^ [ruby-cvs] lib/metaruby/lib: Heavy modifications. (fwd)
16546 [matju sympat] Let's call this the next version (0.2) of RubyAST. (That's "1.3" in the

^ Just another test
16547 [Dave Pragmat] But with a reason...

^ garbage collection with rb_eval_string
16548 [wjl mindless] Hey folks!
16554 [decoux moulo] Well, it depend what you are doing but generally you don't need to do

^ Test
16549 [other thomas] Sorry to be a pain. I'm

^ Tk problems
16550 [hal9000 hype] Trying to figure out what's going on here.
16555 [decoux moulo] The syntax is 'padx' => '1c'
16569 [ms iastate.e] [Guy Decoux]

^ Re: Commenting code
16551 [spamtrap lib] In <9gb2ti$p2q$1@news.jump.net>, on 06/14/2001
16640 [asegura faci] [a bit OT]
+ 16642 [wclodius lan] In Spain the names you retain are your paternal names.
| 16733 [je brighton.] What my wife and I decided to do was give boys my surname and give girls
+ 16676 [tt mit.jyu.f] Well you still have it easy compared to (most) Indonesians, who don't
  16694 [luigi.ballab] Or the case of Iceland, where, if I'm not mistaken, the analog of the last
  16719 [bobgus mcs.c] Awhile ago in New Delhi, I was introduced to K. R. Jayaraman's brother

^ Mail/news gateway
16552 [Dave Pragmat] Well, as it looked like the original mail/news gateway was not going
16560 [jimm eris.io] Dave,
+ 16564 [Dave Pragmat] Done (I hope :)
| 16574 [hal9000 hype] Here's another idea you may or may not like.
| 16578 [Dave Pragmat] Instead I've added it as a X-ruby-talk: dddd  header in the
+ 16584 [schneiker ju] Especially me.  :-)  I'm sure there are many more. Thanks much!

^ Re: comp.patterns  ?
16553 [panu way.com] One traditional  technique of 'patterns movement' is to produce high quality

^ Method overloading - How?
16556 [Uwe.Lammers ] I understand that a weakly-typed language like Ruby cannot
16557 [decoux moulo] No, it can and it's easy to implement it, but it has several problems and

^ Mod_Ruby - CGI - requested url
16558 [s3225202 stu] Recently I've been toying around with the mod_ruby and eRuby stuff.
+ 16559 [s3225202 stu] Sorry, with a little bit more investigation I've come up with the answer
+ 16742 [shugo ruby-l] You can get same values by the environment variable PATH_INFO.

^ Re: programming ruby the book
16561 [pras_patel y] Dave thanks for "programming ruby" , but i can't find the link to the
+ 16563 [Dave Pragmat] Dave
+ 16585 [pras_patel y] I meant the "pragmatic programmer" link i could only get the source code links.

^ UNSUBSCRIBE
16562 [teich novedi] UNSUBSCRIBE

^ Configuration file parsing
16565 [anders ignit] I'm currently writing an application in Ruby, which needs a
+ 16566 [Dave Pragmat] A cheap way that works in some circumstances is to write the
| 16573 [hotfusionman] If you can use Windows .ini file format, you may want to look at
+ 16570 [anders ignit] It may prove to be an effective solution, however, I am having trouble
  + 16576 [vjoel path.b] ...
  + 16577 [Dave Pragmat] Here's an example of something similar.
  + 16582 [anders ignit] Neat. Thank you.
    16586 [WYS helbling] Why don't you use xml?

^ [TOY] reversed regexp
16567 [decoux moulo] It's a toy and *totally* useless but it's normal because it was inpired by

^ Bug in tktext.rb (?)
16568 [niklas kagi.] tag bind ...

^ Having an announcement to make, but no space on a server...
16572 [dennisdecker] Nice to see comp.lang.ruby restored again! Thanks!

^ ANN: Ruby TestCollector (RUnit & Lapidary)
16581 [dennisdecker] I uploaded a TestCollector to the code snippets library at sourceforge.

^ Two (or more) dimensional arrays?
16583 [klowery wts.] After reading my way through various documentation, I didn't find any
16587 [niklas kagi.] A ruby Array can hold any kind of object. To make a multidimensional
16592 [kirk leningr] Of course! That is what is so attractive about Ruby. Simple and elegant.
16596 [matju sympat] it's easier even to do it in Perl, because accessing arrays and hashes

^ Bris RUG
16589 [robert_dawso] The Brisbane Ruby User Group has a home :)

^ Bris RUG
16590 [robert_dawso] The Brisbane Ruby User Group has a home :)

^ RCR: Enumerable: every() and none()
16591 [hgs dmu.ac.u] Enumerable should have functions every and none to complement find_all
+ 16593 [matju sympat] def all? ; each {|x| return false if not yield x }; true ; end
| 16594 [pete vilya.p] ^                       ^
| 16595 [dennisdecker] Yes, it is right.
| + 16599 [ben_tilly op] Personally I would use detect (or equivalently find) with a not
| | 16601 [spwhite char] In the spirit of incremental improvement...
| | 16602 [avi beta4.co] def every
| | 16603 [matju sympat] I don't know about your machine, but on mine, using Ruby 1.6.2, doing
| + 16600 [matju sympat] No, it's not! ;-)
|   16618 [hgs dmu.ac.u] I have taken the liberty of editing #U004 on the Wiki RCR page to refer to
+ 16615 [matz zetabit] In 1.7, we have "Enumerable#all?" and "Enumerable#any?".
  + 16619 [hgs dmu.ac.u] Excellent! :-)  (There must be more to Timezones than I suspected: you
  + 16622 [mike lepton.] Should it be {|x| x > 0} and {|x| x == 2} or is this syntax allowed in
    16644 [matz zetabit] Oops, of course {|x| x > 0} and {|x| x == 2}.

^ Re: http question
16598 [mattias.wahl] I don't understand your problem. The path you should request is simply '

^ Creating arrays
16604 [ugly-daemon ] array = []
16605 [Dave Pragmat] Except... :)
16606 [ugly-daemon ] Ah. Well to be honest that kinda sucks :). I was trying to write a method to
16609 [Dave Pragmat] fred[i] ||= []

^ [ANN] NQXML v1.0.0 released
16607 [jimm eris.io] NQXML is a pure Ruby implementation of a non-validating XML processor. It

^ A commercial Ruby tutorial!
16608 [Dave Pragmat] I'm not sure if this is the first, but I'm pretty pumped up about

^ Silly Questions
16611 [oe-sven onli] Is it possible to make stand alone application for windows from ruby, have
+ 16612 [mike lepton.] have
+ 16613 [oe-sven onli] "Mike" <mike@lepton.fr> skrev i melding

^ ruby is beauty
16620 [jobeicus hot] i saw this snippet of code in a post on google from last year and it

^ pickaxe: socket example on win
16621 [tobiasreif p] should this Pickaxe example work on win?
+ 16623 [Dave Pragmat] I just ran this on my NT box (with 1.6.2 -- I've overwritten my
| 16631 [tobiasreif p] Dave,
+ 16630 [ljohnson res] I apologize for doing a "me too" post without investigating the problem any
+ 25433 [ljohnson res] I apologize for doing a "me too" post without investigating the problem any

^ [ANN] NQXML v1.0.1 (DOCTYPE output fix)
16624 [jimm eris.io] NQXML v1.0.1 addes a method missing to the Doctype tag that prevented it

^ unit testing Tk applications
16625 [marick testi] I will shortly begin writing a small Tk application. I want to write tests

^ TCPSocket & Win2k: Further News
16632 [seanacarley ] . . . :in `new': Invalid argument - "connect(2)" (Errno::EINVAL)
16633 [Dave Pragmat] Is there a way to find out if this is a known cygwin bug?
16636 [will.sobel B] This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand

^ mascot
16634 [arm3 infi.ne] The Ruby Crowned Kinglet is perfect!!!
16635 [siigron sii.] Personally, I must say I definatly favor the manga girl.
+ 16637 [s3225202 stu] I agree. Besides, OO is about letting you write code that better
| + 16639 [ugly-daemon ] And I still say the gem is perfect :) Here we go again.
| + 16647 [tobiasreif p] I like the bird; manga-style leaves too many out that are not into it.
+ 16643 [waisun.chia ] I agree whole-heartedly. So that future generations of Rubyists will
  16645 [ruby jamesbr] It isn't at all clear to me *why* a programming language needs a mascot, though I can see the value in "branding", much as the

^ Re: Ruby/X11 version 0.3
16638 [matju sympat] Announcing Ruby/X11 version 0.3. I release this code so that I have a

^ Serial Communications
16646 [waisun.chia ] 1. How do I set up the serial port to communicate with another serial
+ 16656 [Dave Pragmat] What operating system are you using?
| 16675 [waisun.chia ] Redhat.
+ 16660 [matju sympat] You are looking for <termios.h>. Unfortunately that interface is much more
  16700 [kjana os.xax] FYI there's already termios extension library by Akira YAMADA

^ cjust?
16648 [feldt ce.cha] class String
16649 [decoux moulo] This ?
16684 [feldt ce.cha] You see, already too many features/methods for my little brain... ;-)

^ stable snapshot and snapshot are older than the release version?!
16650 [tammo.freese] After compiling the stable snapshot of ruby,
+ 16653 [bombadil wan] 1.7.x is, like Linux kernel, inestable by definition.
+ 16654 [matz zetabit] Probably something is wrong with mirroring configuration.  Let us

^ newbee question about dbm in Ruby
16651 [YuriLeikind ] I am relatively new to Ruby, so I am sorry
16652 [decoux moulo] See
16655 [YuriLeikind ] Thanks a lot, this is just what I've been looking for.

^ bag difference
16657 [hgs dmu.ac.u] Is there an elegant way to do a bag diffeence between 2 arrays, rather
+ 16658 [niklas kagi.] Don't know if this is the most elegant solution, but it is the first
+ 16671 [harryo zipwo] I plan to read this carefully when I have time, but here's what I came up
+ 25438 [harryo zipwo] I plan to read this carefully when I have time, but here's what I came up
  16706 [hgs dmu.ac.u] Thank you.  I was a bit confused by the other solution too, but it seemed
  16711 [niklas kagi.] The idea was to use something similar to a "Schwartzian transform" to allow us

^ Problem with threading example from pickaxe book
16659 [rpriem nokra] I just tried the example from page 118 of "Programming Ruby". It doesn't

^ Problem running irb with Ruby 1.6.4 under FreeBSD 4.0
16661 [balexander r] I've installed Ruby 1.6.4 on a FreeBSD 4.0 machine, and get the
16677 [matz zetabit] nkf.so does not depend on any other dynamic library, so that it's hard
16785 [balexander r] As you suspected,
16839 [matz zetabit] In dln.c, we have the compile condition that add "_" if the value of
16919 [balexander r] I compiled it myself -- the usual ./configure; make; make install routine. I think this is
16922 [matz ruby-la] That's the cause.  Could anybody who is FreeBSD guru tell me how to
16924 [mirian cosmi] If you type at the shell
16926 [green FreeBS] #define __FreeBSD_version 430000
16945 [matz ruby-la] Hmm, does this due to improper gcc configuration on Bob's box, or else?
17048 [bobalex home] The FreeBSD device I am using is produced by my company, and the gcc
17051 [matz ruby-la] Here's the patch for your problem.

^ installation option
16662 [hubert cs.ny] I am trying to install the Ruby 1.6 version  on the machine
16663 [Dave Pragmat] A couple of years back I reorganized my machine so I no longer need
+ 16666 [hubert cs.ny] Done. Works and happy as ever. :)
+ 16678 [hipster xs4a] or, for multi-user machines where one cannot write /, create a ~/usr,
  16682 [matju sympat] I personally set it to plain $HOME.
  16690 [hipster xs4a] By prefixing usr, a regular ~/usr/{bin,include,lib,share} &c hierarchy

^ cgi.rb cookie access
16664 [harryo zipwo] I recently began playing with mod_ruby, eruby and cgi.rb, which are all

^ standard for embeded-documentation.
16665 [guillaume.ru] There is some standards in the ruby-programmers comunity in the way to

^ Win32 EventLog
16667 [mark iot.com] Are there any Ruby applications similar to the Win32 modules in Perl?

^ how to call super from singleton method?
16669 [viisi chello] from a singleton method i want to call the
+ 16698 [decoux moulo] field ? It give me errors. ]]
+ 16709 [viisi chello] cluttering rb_cHash's globally visible namespace for
+ 25452 [viisi chello] cluttering rb_cHash's globally visible namespace for
  + 16710 [decoux moulo] rb_cHash was not modified
  + 16712 [decoux moulo] OK, I've finally understood what you want, sorry for the previous
  + 16725 [viisi chello] spiffy! that's what i'd seeked for.
  + 25454 [viisi chello] spiffy! that's what i'd seeked for.

^ Net::ProtoRetriableError: 302 Found
16673 [atsang hk.li] I try to retrieve some data from an internet site using

^ WWW.RUBYCONF.COM
16674 [return traff] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">

^ RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2001-05-26)
16679 [schneiker ju] RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2001-05-26)

^ embedding C++
16680 [   ml sph.de] One Question:  Does anybody here have experience embedding
16681 [WYS helbling] Have you tried using SWIG?
+ 16685 [   ml sph.de] Also las ich bei Wyss Clemens [mailto:WYS@helbling.ch]
| + 16687 [buter CWTS.L] Actually, it does. And it is *really* simple once you get the hang of it!
| | 16697 [chris atdesk] Others have mentioned swig, and we've been using that successfully
| | 16702 [   ml sph.de] Also las ich bei Chris Uzdavinis [mailto:chris@atdesk.com]
| | 16705 [chris atdesk] In reality, I think that just creating "local" variables on the heap
| | 16707 [szegedy or.u] You can reraise it, can't you?
| + 16784 [gc mandrakes] Yes, nice piece of software... I just upgraded it in Mandrake so it
+ 16713 [pbrannan atd] Swig seems to work really well, but you need to make sure you have Swig