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^ Class: String align_center
156857 [charlesleeds] I'm trying to use the align_center method for the String class and it
+ 156859 [charlesleeds] Hmm. Appears this isn't base Ruby functionality. My bad. I will have
+ 156865 [drbrain segm] You mean String#center.
156883 [transfire gm] True. #align_center is a Nano method. It differs from the built-in
^ [OT] Places for a programmer to live?
156866 [twifkak comc] While we seem to be rife with OT threads, I thought I'd throw in an OT
+ 156868 [andrew.stuar] A programmer should live in a dark room in a city with a cool climate to
| + 156873 [robby.lists ] That sounds like Portland, Oregon! (except for the summer time.. when it
| | 156889 [ptkwt aracne] And we'll have 6 to 8 months to get a lot of work done ;-)
| + 156915 [hemulaattori] Tampere, Oulu and Helsinki in Finland.
| 156916 [robbie.carlt] Don't come to Hull, UK. It is
| 156917 [chrisgame ex] Carlisle? Nah! anyway I thought all the programmer jobs were being
| 156955 [blurg Jurgen] Well, you should have a look to what country seems attractive to you
| + 156974 [matt technor] I'm an American and I'm seriously looking for the chance to work and live
| | + 156975 [halostatue g] Toronto. I can't speak toward Ruby opportunities, though.
| | | 156976 [Daniel.Berge] English speaking countries: England, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia,
| | | 156980 [ruby redry.n] yep... im in ireland and a quick search on these will show you :)
| | | 157037 [james_b neur] But there is still the matter of getting a work visa.
| | + 156978 [mailinglists] Singapour - as long as you don't get in contact with the police
| | + 157267 [chris.pine.f] Come to Oslo!
| | + 157276 [lispamateur ] Wow, you actually have *two* IT companies there! Might be more of an
| | + 157347 [twifkak comc] You just made my day.
| + 156998 [pan erikveen] Please, explain...
| 157055 [blurg Jurgen] Concerning the fact that your dutch, and asking an explanation this can
+ 156878 [james_b neur] Google isn't a bad start, it can help you find assorted lists and
| + 156880 [khaines enig] IMHO, Denver was a nice place for a programmer to live. Tech employment
| | 156956 [daryl brandy] I'd move there in a heartbeat, drop me a line when you do... ;)
| | 157004 [brian skife.] Yeah, no problems at all here either, in theory. Would need to be a
| + 157287 [curt.hibbs g] Interesting... I lived in Manassas for a couple years (in a former
| 157289 [james_b neur] Well, InfoEther is there (well, in Chantilly, I think), which hosts
| + 157300 [curt.hibbs g] Yes, That is Rich Kilmer & Company.
| + 157314 [chriscodes g] I graduated from Chantilly, it's definitely not Manassass.
+ 156890 [ptkwt aracne] of people are active in them.
+ 156895 [Ara.T.Howard] the view from my office in boulder colorado
+ 156909 [zedshaw zeds] Here's my opinions of the places I've lived in my life, sometimes as a
| 156972 [ptkwt aracne] Death Cab for Cutie is from Bellingham, correct?
+ 156939 [josh.charles] I live in Kansas City, and it's pretty nice. It could be beautiful,
+ 156989 [warrens actc] My info is a few years old, but LA used to have a tremendous concentration of software
+ 156992 [bob.news gmx] <snip/>
^ b = i if i = a doesn't work?
156867 [transfire gm] Recently I was suprised by the behavior of "start = lambda { start }".
+ 156869 [twifkak comc] Undecorated symbols aren't interpreted until they're executed. Ruby
| 156882 [matz ruby-la] "executed" is not a precise word. Local variables are not recognized
+ 156884 [discordantus] There was a thread on this a while back; apparently it is difficult to
^ signals handlers and threads
156886 [Ara.T.Howard] how do signal handlers affect threads? specifically, if a resource must be
156887 [rick nooner.] I smell deadlock issues. I have always delegated any shared resource action
156894 [Ara.T.Howard] trap 'INT' { handle_requests }
156910 [rick nooner.] That's certainly a good Unix solution.
^ ruby-dev suumary 26957-27102
156899 [ko1 atdot.ne] [ruby-dev:26965] patch for RDoc about Module#class_variable_get
+ 156901 [dblack wobbl] s/talk/core/ :-)
+ 156944 [pbrannan atd] Would any of this be solved by using WFMO instead of select on win32?
+ 156963 [Daniel.Berge] And there was much rejoicing....
+ 156967 [nobu.nokada ] WFMO doesn't work with sockets directly.
^ signals and win32
156900 [Ara.T.Howard] can someone show me a working example of trapping a signal sent to a process
156960 [Daniel.Berge] The only "signals" that Process.kill supports in win32-process are
156965 [Ara.T.Howard] latest one-click installer and one-click win32utils-installer. on xp.
157020 [Daniel.Berge] Oh, right, now I remember. The problem is that signals 2 and 3 will
157023 [Ara.T.Howard] hmm. no way to specifcally allow unrelated process to signal you then eh?
^ Re: [ANN] Rio 0.3.4
156902 [Neville.Burn] Can I use rio to gzip a string to a string, bypassing the filesystem ?
156906 [Neville.Burn] I'm having a little trouble using rio in irb ...
^ Ruby 1.8.3 Issues
156903 [james graypr] I just recompiled Ruby and I'm seeing a lot of issues already.
+ 156904 [robby.lists ] I had similar problems. Every Rails app I tried died...
+ 156905 [james graypr] Referenced from: /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/powerpc-darwin8.2.0/
| 156936 [james graypr] I've repaired my Readline install. It's broken under Mac OS X 10.4,
+ 156907 [dblack wobbl] This one is because Logger::Format is now Logger::Formatter::Format.
| + 156908 [robby.lists ] Sounds like some of us Rails folks need to be testing out the Ruby beta
| + 156945 [james graypr] Yeah, I made a patch for this this morning, only to learn that it has
+ 156941 [nobu.nokada ] Can you show mkmf.log under ext/readline?
^ Re: Welcome to our (ruby-talk ML) You are added automatically
156912 [stewartchen ] I'm new to Ruby and hope to get some guidance from all the gurus out there.
156938 [halostatue g] ri is case-sensitive. Whether it should be is a different question,
156969 [joevandyk gm] I vote for ri not being case-sensitive.
^ [ANN] FuseFS-0.3
156913 [ruby-talk le] Last announcement for the week! I promise!
156995 [ksruby gmail] Very good job! I'm impressed.
157061 [ruby brian.p] I've been discussing with Greg ways to make FuseFS cross-platform
+ 157069 [jeff.darklig] If I remember correctly, WEBDav support is built into windows now ...
+ 157091 [rasputnik gm] DAV is a good idea, but 'open as web folder' is an awful webdav
+ 157133 [ruby-talk wh] Stepping back a bit, doesn't Windows allow mounting of virtual drives?
157137 [ruby brian.p] Natively, Windows doesn't even support mounting of ISOs. But there
^ Tk: changing color of an item in a TkListbox
156918 [clr7.10.rand] I have a TkListbox with several items, and I'd like to change the
156949 [clr7.10.rand] The solution is to use
^ Re:
156919 [ruby.brian g] the mail body
^ Problem with constants
156920 [simon.kroege] class X
+ 156921 [theHaPK yand] Since A is not a class variable (it's a local variable) it's saved in
| + 156924 [dblack wobbl] Actually A is a constant, not a local variable, and method definitions
| | + 156927 [decoux moulo] Well not really : ruby *want* that you think that the constants are resolved
| | | 156931 [dblack wobbl] Darn, I thought that by avoiding the word "statically" I was safe :-)
| | + 157013 [SimonKroeger] erm, yes.
| | 157082 [decoux moulo] Well another stupid example
| + 156925 [theHaPK yand] Ooops... sorry.. Didn't get you right.
| 156930 [dblack wobbl] There's no bug. There's a lookup path for constants. Z finds X::A on
+ 156922 [pit capitain] Yes. Constants are lexically scoped. As I've learned from a recent post
^ [HELP] modifying hash
156923 [Bil.Kleb NAS] I've got a mental block on refactoring the following,
+ 156926 [dblack wobbl] hash.values.each {|v| v.delete(:a) }
| 156947 [nobu.nokada ] Hash#each_value would be better.
+ 156928 [Bil.Kleb NAS] Broke the block?
+ 156929 [r_mueller im] What about
^ Re: Places for a programmer to live?
156932 [osktim gmail] I agree. :p
157010 [rpardee gmai] Wooaahh now. You want to stay away from Seattle. Really. Complete
+ 157085 [Paul.McArdle] Crikey mate. I reckon Queensland, crocs 'n all is the best place to do
+ 157694 [warrens actc] Nice folks in Seattle. Even the vacant lots are attractive. Mountains in the distance in
157703 [snacktime gm] Seattle is good all around with a few noted exceptions. It rains a bit too
^ Hello, I am a newbie to ruby.
156933 [could.net gm] I want learn a script language.
+ 156934 [james graypr] We use "Mix-ins" for that. You'll learn the details as you go.
+ 156940 [phlipcpp yah] Ruby uses dynamically typed polymorphism, and everything is an object,
+ 156942 [gavin refine] If you really want multi-inheritance, you should ask yourself "Why do
| 156952 [josh.charles] One place multiple inheritance / interfaces really shines is with
| + 156954 [rascal1182 g] Rob
| | 156961 [rascal1182 g] That response was incomplete. The above is for the Observer pattern.
| | 156962 [josh.charles] Those links were helpful, though I had to reread the adapter code
| + 156957 [james graypr] You're still thinking like a Java programmer here. Us Rubyists are
+ 156948 [blurg Jurgen] I read about Mixins, which can be the solution for you, if multiple
+ 156987 [warrens actc] The answers to your questions depend on what you are planning to do with the script
^ Win32Serial monitor?
156943 [greg.kujawa ] Afer having some issues with serialport-0.6 working in my Win2K/Ruby
157022 [ykloubakov f] basic
157040 [greg.kujawa ] Good call. I'm checking it out now!
^ Continuation - where does it continue
156946 [michelemende] Why does the following code print the line "doing other stuff" twice?
+ 156950 [sangamon t-o] It starts after the callcc call, after returning from the cc method it
+ 156953 [pit capitain] The continuation continues here, after the call to callcc.
+ 156958 [jim weirichh] 01 def cc
+ 156964 [michelemende] AHA - EUREKA!!!
| 157042 [sean.ohalpin] this finally cleared up Ruby's continuations for me too.
| 157074 [michelemende] I justed wanted to understand how continuations work and where it
+ 156970 [rhkramer gma] Thanks, the line numbers help a lot!
+ 157045 [rpardee gmai] 04 callcc { |cont| return cont}
+ 157046 [Neville.Burn] Callcc is a Kernel method
| 157047 [rpardee gmai] Ooooh... Right. Woah. Trippy.
+ 157048 [jim weirichh] You've got good eyes. That's exactly what it is ... a call to the "callcc"
157062 [Neville.Burn] Pg 448 ;D
^ Re: Rio 0.3.4
156951 [gsinclair gm] Sorry for lack of context in reply - why oh why, Google Groups?
^ from 1.8.2-14 to 1.8.2-15
156959 [aastanti hot] I'm bound to win environment and I wonder whether it is convenient to
^ Set#== ain't..
156973 [shea gtsdesi] While writing an acceptance test, I needed to compare two sets of sets
156977 [dblack wobbl] class Set
156984 [shea gtsdesi] Whoops :)
157095 [christophe.p] The above solution of set.all? {|x| any? { |y| x== y} } is not a full
^ ANN: Lafcadio 0.8.0
156981 [sera fhwang.] I've just released Lafcadio 0.8.0, the new production release. It
^ What to do with the snippets of code you always use?
156982 [damphyr free] I have a question on maintaining code.
156991 [Ara.T.Howard] i do this
156999 [damphyr free] snip
157003 [Ara.T.Howard] - making a library for public consumption generally makes you think harder
157033 [transfire gm] Keep your library as a separate project. In your other projects have a
^ Re: Ruby Jobs Site (#47)
156983 [paul.vaillan] What follows is another basic solution using ActiveRecord only and CGI.
+ 156986 [james graypr] Hey, this is great stuff! Glad to see that someone else had a chance
| 156988 [paul.vaillan] /me is sad now...
+ 157036 [ezra yakima-] Paul-
^ [ANN] Usage 0.0.2 - Yet another command line option processor
157000 [stevetuckner] What is Usage?
157015 [halostatue g] I have no opinion on this library as such, but can I ask a couple of
+ 157018 [SimonKroeger] i think you should. :)
+ 157025 [stevetuckner] I have never released a library before (on this list), so I guess I am
^ Large Ruby Apps ?
157005 [warrens actc] I am coming to Ruby having used the usual list of scripting and C* languages. Since Ruby
+ 157007 [Daniel.Berge] That's a very old school philosophy. It just isn't so.
| + 157029 [warrens actc] Oh, yes, the Unit Tests, they're right, um, well, over here, um, lemme look ... Uh, I'll
| | 157032 [james graypr] We make jokes, but Unit Tests are a very real option. The myth is
| | 157035 [drbrain segm] I use Unit Tests almost exclusively when writing Rails apps, and I
| + 157102 [klancaster19] I don't know why anyone would consider having tools (like compilers)
| + 157116 [robbie.carlt] the thing is, the gains you get from dynamic typing just far outweigh the
| + 157130 [Ara.T.Howard] because they don't catch that many serious errors
| | 157149 [igouy yahoo.] -snip-
| | + 157153 [halostatue g] Humbly suggest that the same applies to Java (java.lang.Object,
| | | 157165 [igouy yahoo.] I'm not interested in quarreling about the meaning of phrases, so I use
| | | + 157168 [halostatue g] Could you be a bit less lazy and post the relevant text next time,rather than forcing people go to download a useless text just to discussthings with you?
| | | + 157169 [rick nooner.] I also think that if strong type checking is important to you, you should
| | | 157173 [igouy yahoo.] Have you been writing large C++ / Java systems long enough to support
| | | 157181 [rick nooner.] Hmmm... I think I said that I've been doing this for a long time. Just in
| | | 157184 [igouy yahoo.] You said you'd been doing C for a long time - you didn't say you'd been
| | | 157188 [rick nooner.] C++ since the early 90's. Java since '96. Python since '95. Ruby since
| | | 157220 [igouy yahoo.] Even with all those years of experience, the only alternatives to a
| | + 157155 [mailinglists] I agree, fore me programming in the large begins with 250.000 lines of
| | | 157161 [igouy yahoo.] And let's quickly state that doesn't mean there are no large
| | + 157172 [Ara.T.Howard] c is 100% staticly typed. no exception. static typing means types are know
| | | + 157178 [igouy yahoo.] C is not type safe; Smalltalk is type safe, afaik Ruby is type safe.
| | | + 158467 [corey.ssf.la] doing silly pointer tricks?
| | | 158468 [binary42 gma] This is more in relation to weak vs. strong typing. The union is still
| | + 157175 [Ara.T.Howard] c is 100% staticly typed. no exception. static typing means types are know
| | 157176 [Daniel.Berge] Wow, another "typing" thread. You never see those.
| + 157131 [rascal1182 g] It seems to me that typed variables and compilers give programmers a false
| + 157160 [igouy yahoo.] Yes.
| + 157170 [twifkak comc] On a similar thread to Ara's, the ability for an IDE to do IntelliSense
+ 157008 [shea gtsdesi] My recent coding experience with Ruby, written with full
| 157058 [blurg Jurgen] Well, supply these tools you've written to the community then, so the next
| 157065 [shea gtsdesi] An excellent idea! In fact, two of them are on RubyForge already: Seep
+ 157009 [gavin refine] Regarding Unicode - do a bit of googling, and you'll find that not
| 157028 [warrens actc] Yeah, but it blows away 7-bit ASCII for i18n work.
+ 157021 [joevandyk gm] Ruby should work fine on a 64-bit system. At least, I used it fine
| 157030 [warrens actc] You compiled it for 64 bit? No -- I'll bet you ran it in 32-bit compatibility mode.
| + 157034 [drbrain segm] Did you search the mailing list? No -- I'll bet you just assumed
| | 157823 [warrens actc] No I did not. Yes I did.
| + 157039 [mailinglists] There are some persons running a 64 bit ruby interpreter.
| + 157156 [joevandyk gm] I built Ruby from scratch, using the 64 bit distribution of Ubuntu.
+ 157031 [alex deletem] It's sometimes thought better style to use method calls to refer even to
| 157084 [snail objmed] Fenton <alex@deleteme.pressure.to> writes
+ 158360 [meta pobox.c] I don't want to be *required* to declare variables, but I'd like to be
+ 158399 [slonik.az gm] Very useful discussion that highlights quite few misconceptions.
+ 158429 [ksruby gmail] I don't agree. Static analysis captures errors that are not usually a
| + 158461 [igouy yahoo.] That's a huge generalization - can you substantiate it?
| + 158532 [slonik.az gm] Kent,
+ 158476 [leonardo.elo] I agree that some sort of static analysis would allow Ruby codes to more
158634 [eeklund gmai] I believe this is incorrect. It should be possible to do a lot of
+ 158666 [igouy yahoo.] A newer reference based on work done in the language Smalltalk (and of
+ 158781 [matchbo gmai] A much more recent example of this sort of type inference inference,
+ 158791 [ben.myles gm] I wonder how hard it would be to create a ruby to objc converter? On a
+ 158795 [mailinglists] I'm still convinced that type inference with ruby and python without
158827 [eeklund gmai] Have you read the references on type inference for Self *which has
+ 158828 [tanner.burso] 'We' do?
+ 158832 [mailinglists] Yes i read. No it did not worked well - at least on the level people
158903 [kjana dm4lab] <http://research.sun.com/self/compiler.html>
158930 [rm_rails che] One more set of interesting papers from them is their work on
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