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155990-159395 subjects 156370-159483

^ [ANN] Vim/Ruby Configuration Files, 2005.09.15
156197 [dougkearns g] G'day folks,
+ 156437 [lists kalama] Thanks!
+ 156445 [yasagure umi] I have wanted to use eRuby color support for vim. So, useful.
| 156452 [dougkearns g] We'll look at working this into the next release; at least as an option.
+ 156479 [lists halffu] Thank you very much.  vim-ruby makes life happy :D

^ [ANN] Pimki 1.8.092
156200 [assaph gmail] Am very happy to announce a new release of Pimki: The Wiki-based PIM to

^ typo in jamis.rb?
156201 [vjoel path.b] RDoc sections were not working nicely for me, and I had to fix something
+ 156217 [transfire gm] Yep there it is, I have it too.
| 156235 [jamis 37sign] The blank.html is only used when you are _not_ doing --inline-source.
+ 156234 [jamis 37sign] Thanks, Joel. I've corrected this in my copy now, too.

^ Bug in Ruby 1.8.2 'mkmf.rb' ?
156202 [noSpam noSpa] I have a file called 'extconf.rb' that used to run fine
+ 156210 [matz ruby-la] PLEASE send us unified / context diff.  Old diff is too hard to read.
| 156249 [noSpam noSpa] ==============================================================================
+ 156212 [nobuyoshi.na] Seems RubyBarChart_wrap.cxx is autogenerated.  Was it there
  156253 [noSpam noSpa] That is an excellent question...  It has been so long,
  156257 [nobu.nokada ] Setting $objs to all object files, and separating dependency

^ [ANN] World's 1st Hamster-Powered Mud Server! (in Ruby)
156203 [jlsysinc all] [ANN] World's 1st Hamster-Powered Mud Server! (in Ruby)
+ 156206 [dooby d10.ka] LMT&AO  ( but don't tell anyone ;D )
+ 156208 [nick atlassi] This has to be the best software release announcement email I've ever
  156237 [james graypr] Definitely.
  156264 [Bil.Kleb NAS] I just hope big brother isn't following my

^ [ANN] acgi-0.1.0
156209 [Ara.T.Howard] URIS

^ REXML feature request: XPath.match.text & better text documentation
156215 [dan dankohn.] Sean, et al, thanks for a great piece of software in REXML.  I would
+ 156238 [gavin refine] doc = Document.new( string, :ignore_whitespace_nodes => :all )
+ 156247 [gavin refine] Does this help you?

^ [ANN] Zero to Rails
156216 [ryand-ruby z] From absolutely nothing to a running rails app in under two minutes.
+ 156239 [gavin refine] Demo movie mirrored at http://phrogz.net/RubyLibs/
+ 156243 [gavin refine] BTW, that's frickin' awesome. I've wanted OG->SQL for a very long time.
| 156284 [ryand-ruby z] Well, it'd be easier to modify your data. 1) OG4 now has tables which
+ 156250 [p_bossi_AGAI] awesome, disarming, astonishing!
| 156269 [codeslave gm] Oh please release these scripts.
+ 156261 [none none.co] Nice !!!
| 156361 [ryand-ruby z] Sorry? What do you mean by shortcuts?
+ 156279 [p_bossi_AGAI] Ryan, I have a few questions from a collegue (who in turns indicated
  156287 [ryand-ruby z] rapidj starts at $400US and does one thing only. Graffle starts at
  156288 [p_bossi_AGAI] Indeed he was more impressed by graffle than rapidj! :-)

^ How to start Tidy on WinXP?
156223 [dan dankohn.] Using the sample script that came with the Tidy library, I get the
156307 [matt.mower g] Your Tidy.path statement looks okay.  I'm wondering whether this might
156363 [dan dankohn.] That fixed it, thanks.

^ you can't get in trouble with your boss for picking C#
156230 [phlipcpp yah] Here's a nice advocacy anecdote. A colleague vents, "So they hired him to
+ 156233 [florgro gmai] C# is heavily taking ideas from Ruby right now -- which is no surprise,
| 156405 [timsuth ihug] Example from future C# ...
+ 156236 [jcromartie g] C# is The Devil, capital "T" capital "D," plain and simple.  There is
| 156244 [florgro gmai] Please, have a look at
| + 156268 [rob.02004 gm] As long as I can put food on the table without having to code C# I will. I=
| + 156291 [klancaster19] C# certainly borrowed (aka stole) from java, which in turn was a
| | + 156297 [phlipcpp yah] That's the thing. To compete against a crappy language backed by Daddy
| | | + 156301 [florgro gmai] C# has always had anonymous functions, but only recently they have added
| | | + 156308 [josh.charles] Try building an operating system without static typing.  The point is
| | |   + 156321 [florgro gmai] Heh, I agree with your posting except for that last claim. Writing a
| | |   + 156331 [joevandyk gm] Reimplementing Ruby
| | |   | 156333 [josh.charles] Very interesting.  But you'll still need C ;)  I'm interested to know
| | |   | 156377 [mailinglists] No, you need C to implement a virtual machine, but not for the
| | |   | + 156382 [lyndon.samso] How about dynamic analysis of code blocks suitable for JIT'ing or loop=20
| | |   | | 156385 [phlipcpp yah] - test driven development
| | |   | + 156424 [josh.charles] My Point was that you still need to use C (a _strongly_ typed
| | |   | | + 156428 [halostatue g] C is anything *BUT* a strongly typed language. C is a very weakly typed
| | |   | | | 156436 [daryl brandy] "C is strongly-typed" is indeed a pernicious meme.
| | |   | | + 156450 [chneukirchen] How ironic. :-)  Did you ever look into the Ruby implementation?
| | |   | | + 156481 [phlipcpp yah] First, some guideposts. C is weakly statically typed. Ruby is strongly
| | |   | |   156549 [tristan.allw] Hey all,
| | |   | |   + 156561 [phlipcpp yah] That's because I don't understand it.
| | |   | |   + 156566 [mailinglists] You forget that this does absolutely not fit into the ruby model. You
| | |   | |   | + 156570 [phlipcpp yah] Just a note, dude. I clicked on your URL there, and was greeted with...
| | |   | |   | | + 156571 [johnwilger g] Odd. I pine for vim when I'm (for whatever reason) forced to use some
| | |   | |   | | | 156573 [andrew.stuar] I'm the boss at my company and you'd get in trouble if you chose C#.
| | |   | |   | | + 156578 [lyndon.samso] =20
| | |   | |   | | + 156607 [martindemell] The "learning curve" is a red herring here. You're making the classic
| | |   | |   | |   156650 [phlipcpp yah] The root principle of Usability (as a discipline for designing human-machine
| | |   | |   | + 156574 [p.capriotti ] In Haskell you have both overloaded operators/functions and type inference.
| | |   | |   | | 156593 [tristan.allw] Hey again,
| | |   | |   | + 156595 [surrender_it] But I think that the Haskell model would be quite hard to retrofit into
| | |   | |   + 156582 [florgro gmai] This is changed in C# 3. You will be able to do var and AFAIK there is
| | |   | |     + 156596 [surrender_it] in C# 2.0 there is type inference for delegates IIRC
| | |   | |     | + 156599 [the.mindstor] #: gabriele renzi changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/18/2005 12:36 PM :#
| | |   | |     | + 156773 [florgro gmai] I think they have been picking quite a minimalist set considering where
| | |   | |     + 156815 [igouy yahoo.] Yes, C# 3.0 and VB9 are going in a very interesting direction.
| | |   | |       156818 [brockweaver ] Remember when Java was the new guy in town (ca. 1995)? "It's too slow, too=
| | |   | |       + 156862 [rick nooner.] *snip*
| | |   | |       | + 156870 [khaines enig] Ditto.  I run millions of dynamic web requests through daemon processes
| | |   | |       | + 157120 [brockweaver ] To be honest, the only stability issues I've seen are on Win 2003 boxes. Th=
| | |   | |       + 156876 [scott alodar] Java had some tooling that Ruby could use.  For example, even the
| | |   | |       + 157387 [jwkenne attg] Not so, actually. All Java string constants and compile-time expressions
| | |   | + 156448 [chneukirchen] Actually, you need C to *bootstrap* a virtual machine.  Lots of other
| | |   + 156346 [igouy yahoo.] That would be a job for BCPL :-)
| | + 156304 [khaines enig] What is "enterprise ready"?  My perception of the answer depends on who is
| |   + 156395 [bob.news gmx] Btw, is J2EE enterprise ready?  Is there a significant number of
| |   | + 156398 [Roland.Schmi] Yes, they are.
| |   | | 156399 [bob.news gmx] Can you post some figures (# of hosts, max concurrent users etc.) or is
| |   | | 156401 [Roland.Schmi] - 10 Servers (8*CPUs...)
| |   | | 156406 [bob.news gmx] You need 80 CPU's to serve 120-160 concurrent users?  That would be 2
| |   | | + 156408 [mailinglists] Maybe you missed the bad word in his email: SAP
| |   | | + 156414 [Roland.Schmi] It is not that simple. There is a lot of graphic processing, character
| |   | + 156438 [khaines enig] Fortunately, the last time I had to face the Java/Web world was 3 years and 5
| |   | + 156598 [the.mindstor] #: Robert Klemme changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/16/2005 10:16 AM :#
| |   |   156600 [bob.news gmx] Been busy with a non J2EE-Java application that is DB intesive.  Also, I
| |   |   156611 [twifkak comc] Yeah, nothing's changed.
| |   |   156615 [bob.news gmx] In fact it's an octopus's garden - but don't tell anyone: I would not want
| |   + 156474 [ jupp gmx.de] Such terms are called "buzzwords" where a buzzword is a word
| + 156315 [transfire gm] Had to do it.
| | 156324 [florgro gmai] Careful! C# delegates don't actually delegate messages. Instead they are
| | 156334 [transfire gm] Oh, is that all? Where've they been these last years? ;-)
| | 156362 [phlipcpp yah] When Daddy Warbucks tells his minions to promote Language X, and if it
| | 156364 [lyndon.samso] Languages dont suck, they differ in degrees of suitability for a purpose.
| + 156618 [ts_news1 son] I couldn't agree more. I think what pushed many of us toward ruby was
|   156634 [lyndon.samso] No 1 immediate irritant when coding in java after ruby
+ 156819 [cpatti gmail] Beg to differ.  I can't speak to C#, but Java is thriving.  Look in
+ 157027 [miguel.de.ic] You must not have looked very hard.  The RPMs are right there on the

^ How to unsubscribe?
156231 [uberkorp ube] Can somebody please tell me how to unsubscribe from this list?
156669 [ruby.brian g] the mail body

^ [SUMMARY] NDiff (#46)
156232 [james graypr] Both solutions had some really interesting material in them.  I would certainly
156277 [Bil.Kleb NAS] You need to take credit for the Summary
156320 [james graypr] My general rule is that if it doesn't have a by-line, it was me.

^ [RubyConf] Registration is closed
156240 [dblack wobbl] Registration for RubyConf 2005 is now closed.  We have reached full

^ Math: sum and faculty
156248 [daniel.schie] I hereby propose two additions to Ruby. Please come with some comments
156254 [theHaPK yand] This could be done with Enumerable#inject. Your implementation assumes
+ 156259 [bob.news gmx] This should go into Enumerable if at all.
| 156267 [martindemell] Actually, something in between would be quite nice in terms of code
| + 156274 [bob.news gmx] The difference isn't really that big, is it?
| | 156286 [greg grahamt] The cool thing about Ruby is that if you don't like the clutter, you
| + 156366 [sean.ohalpin] How about
|   156552 [martindemell] Definitely. OTOH, it's also worth stepping back every so often and
+ 156327 [christophe.g] It's just a (not so much used in my experience) synonym for "factorial"
  156433 [chneukirchen] The real reason is probably that both "factorial" (maths) and
  156628 [christophe.g] Must be! :) However, I found this use in at least one page about Java,
  156641 [dbatml gmx.d] It seems to be similar in Danish (fakultet), Dutch (fakulteit) and Swedish
  156676 [daniel.schie] I am :)

^ FCGI not responding to signals
156252 [jamis 37sign] Rails applications that use FCGI have been observing some strange
+ 156285 [Ara.T.Howard] on which platforms?
+ 156311 [Ara.T.Howard] <snip trouble restarting fcgi apps>
+ 156454 [aamine lover] If you are using pure Ruby fcgi.rb, try latest CVS version.

^ newbie Q: introspection to find __FILE__ and __LINE__
156270 [email55555 g] What method can introspect to find __FILE__ and __LINE__ variables name ?
+ 156275 [nobu.nokada ] Those are reserved keyword, not variables.
+ 156276 [email55555 g] Thank you.

^ ri rdoc for installed gems?
156271 [jpshack gmai] A year ago there was discussion around having an option for rubygems

^ net/ftp with ssl?
156272 [khaines enig] I have a program that needs to interact with an FTP server that only talks FTP

^ [ANN] RedCloth 3.0.4 -- Humane Text for Ruby
156283 [ruby-talk wh] RedCloth 3.0.4 is out today.  What does it mean?  Don't try to read too

^ comp.lang.ruby FAQ
156290 [hal9000 hype] RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2005-4-14)

^ comp.lang.ruby FAQ
156294 [hal9000 hype] RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2005-4-14)

^ A big project
156298 [mike.novecen] I am going to start a new company in a little while. The company will
+ 156302 [phlipcpp yah] Which of those three make unit testing DIRT SIMPLE?
+ 156316 [david.heinem] Considering that you came here to ask this question, I'm going to
| + 156322 [mike.novecen] Thank you David. You are actually one of the few names of the Ruby
| + 156473 [drbrain segm] Our sites (combined) handled over 1 million requests due to a naughty
|   156475 [the.mindstor] #: Eric Hodel changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/16/2005 8:13 PM :#
|   156476 [Daniel.Berge] Polite spiders should obey a robots.txt file.  The bad ones, well, you
|   156477 [the.mindstor] #: Berger, Daniel changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/16/2005 8:46 PM :#
|   156509 [drbrain segm] Apache provides the 3rd solution.  There's plenty of hits on google.
+ 156338 [the.mindstor] #: mike.novecento@gmail.com changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/15/2005 8:06 PM :#
+ 156344 [ezra yakima-] You definitely need to make an informed decision about which
  156349 [mike.novecen] Thank you Ezra. Very Helpful.

^ MS Access
156299 [sdouglas949 ] I'm considering learning Ruby.  I have no programming experience yet.  I was
156303 [phlipcpp yah] Absolutely. Database are designed to access a wide warehouse of data through
+ 156306 [brockweaver ] Steve,
+ 156335 [phinsxiii gm] =20
| + 156336 [se digitale-] Using the Ruby MySQL Module
| | + 156343 [phinsxiii gm] Thank You.
| | + 156347 [phinsxiii gm] Does anyone know how to install the Ruby MySQL module on a Windows platform=
| |   156352 [jqshenker gm] Sean,I needed to compile/install mysql (running ./configure--without-server) from source to get the required developmentlibraries under Cygwin. (then I moved the newly-created clientbinaries out of the way so I could use the Win32-native mysqlbinaries.) After that, it worked like a charm. *Do not compile theCygwin-ized mysql client with "--with-openssl"* I don't know why, butthe gem refused to install if I did. Good luck, and let me know if yourun into any issues. Overall, developing on Cygwin for Ruby/Rails isquite nice.
| |   156353 [phinsxiii gm] 1. Download MySQL source
| |   + 156360 [jqshenker gm] Yes.After that, everything should be happy happy happy (you'll get myexact setup, and it does work for me). If any step fails or isconfusing, I'll either try to help you or just send you my binaries.Hope it works!
| |   + 156461 [phinsxiii gm] It still refuses to find the lib and include directories even if I use the=
| |     156506 [jqshenker gm] Sean,I'm going to try to explain *exactly* what I did, and hopefully you'llsee something you forgot to do.1. Download mysql-essential-4.1.14-win32.msi from mysql.org and install it.2. Download mysql-4.1.13.tar.gz from mysql.org3. Extract the above, and run "./configure -C --without-server" (the-C enables config caching, I use it because the ./configure scriptruns very slowly under Cygwin. Optional, of course)4. Run "make && make install"5. Run "gem install mysql"6. Go make cool rails apps!
| |     156539 [phinsxiii gm] Well you have got me the closest so far. I had to go back and manually=20
| |     + 156541 [sellberg gma] =20
| |     | 156542 [phinsxiii gm] This does not work since my version of mysql is not iinstalled as a server.
| |     | 156553 [jqshenker gm] Sean,Let me get this straight. The problem is when you installed MySQL forWindows from the .msi installer, you didn't install the server. (So inthe wizard setp with all the white hard-drive icons, you selected thinstall the client programs and possibly the development files. Notthe "MySQL Server") You needed to select the "Server" to get a runningMySQL installation. When you say "that is not an option", why? (Didthe installer not ask you or did you not want to because ofsecurity/other reasons?) If you did indeed select to install theserver, a Database Cluster Initialization Wizard should have popped upsometime during the install. Oh, and Linus is right in that "mysql -h"doesn't accept localhost, use 127.0.0.1 instead. Once the server isinstalled, "net start mysql" to make sure it is running. You'regetting really close, so hang on!
| |     + 156572 [dave burt.id] Have you tried using MyODBC with Ruby-DBI via the ODBC DBD? It was mentioned
| + 156337 [SimonKroeger] Ok, this isn't 'good' but short and shows that it is realy easy to
| + 156342 [dave burt.id] If you're not only concerned about the database, or even if you'd like to
| | 156348 [phlipcpp yah] Driving Access through COM, essentially operating its user interface to read
| | 156434 [dave burt.id] You're right if all you care about is a nicely designed database. I haven't
| + 156368 [gavin refine] Following is a sanitized example of code I use at work to connect
+ 156403 [doc doconnel] As a beginner with 2 wks experience I can say that ODBC usage is easy

^ Appropriate use of "inject()" ?
156305 [itsme213 hot] I have a hash table HASH containing strings, and want to generate a string
+ 156310 [mrcode netro] HASH = {'a' => 'A', 'b' => 'B'}
+ 156312 [ef alum.mit.] HASH.map { |k,v| "'#{k}' : '#{v}'"}.join(',')
+ 156314 [w_a_x_man ya] puts "var JS = {\n\t" + HASH.map{|k,v|
+ 156318 [martindemell] The simplest is the two-pass
  156326 [itsme213 hot] Ah, I need to think more "functional programming".
  156397 [bob.news gmx] => {"a"=>"A", "b"=>"B"}

^ [rrt_ruby]Ruby and RoseRT
156309 [damphyr free] I have a Ruby wrapper library for RRTEI (Rose RealTime Extensibility
156317 [Daniel.Berge] Go ahead, create a project on RubyForge, and publish it.  Even if we're
156329 [damphyr free] Well, if I were you, I would hope never to have to use it, it would mean
156351 [shanko_date ] I am with Dan on this one ... even if there is no one using it today, that is not to say that
156373 [prakash.diby] I am with Daniel and Shashank on this.Go ahead and create the project at=
156525 [damphyr free] Oh, I will release, it's what I intended from the beginning (I just need
156527 [prakash.diby] SGksCklmIHlvdSBwbGFuIHRvIG1ha2UgaXQgYSBSdWJ5Rm9yZ2UgcHJvamVjdCAsSSBtaXRlIGJl

^ Error using soap/wsdlDriver
156323 [matt.hulse g] I am attempting to use ruby to connect to a webservice.  I am able to
156400 [nakahiro sar] Would you please try to call WSDLDriverFactory#create_rpc_driver instead
156471 [matt.hulse g] Thank you for the response.
156487 [nakahiro sar] I think you are accessing to document/literal service.  You shoul pass a

^ Drag and Drop program launch on Windows
156330 [gavin refine] I want to be able to drag and drop a txt file onto my ruby program,
+ 156332 [gavin refine] Well, here's a better way. Still not ideal (where ideal would be
+ 156345 [nobu.nokada ] It needs to install a drag-and-drop handler.  I often use "Drop
+ 156357 [Digikata gma] You could just put the shortcut in the "Send To" directory. Then it's
  156365 [caldridge gm] 1) Download rubyscript2exe-0.4.0.rb from sourceforge..

^ [ANN] ritex 0.1: WebTeX -> MathML
156341 [wmorgan-ruby] I'm happy to announce the release of Ritex 0.1.

^ [ANN] KirbyRecord 0.0.0
156350 [logancapaldo] charset=US-ASCII;
+ 156355 [ezra yakima-] Logan-
+ 156369 [jcribbs twmi] Nice job, Logan!
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