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[ANN] Vim/Ruby Configuration Files, 2005.09.15
156197 [dougkearns@g] G'day folks,
+ 156437 [lists@ka am ] Thanks!
+ 156445 [yasagure@um ] I have wanted to use eRuby color support for vim. So, useful.
| 156452 [dougkearns@g] We'll look at working this into the next release; at least as an option.
+ 156479 [lists@ha ff ] Thank you very much.  vim-ruby makes life happy :D

[ANN] Pimki 1.8.092
156200 [assaph@gm il] Am very happy to announce a new release of Pimki: The Wiki-based PIM to

typo in jamis.rb?
156201 [vjoel@pa h. ] RDoc sections were not working nicely for me, and I had to fix something
+ 156217 [transfire@gm] Yep there it is, I have it too.
| 156235 [jamis@37 ig ] The blank.html is only used when you are _not_ doing --inline-source.
+ 156234 [jamis@37 ig ] Thanks, Joel. I've corrected this in my copy now, too.

Bug in Ruby 1.8.2 'mkmf.rb' ?
156202 [noSpam@no pa] I have a file called 'extconf.rb' that used to run fine
+ 156210 [matz@ru y- a] PLEASE send us unified / context diff.  Old diff is too hard to read.
| 156249 [noSpam@no pa] ==============================================================================
+ 156212 [nobuyoshi.na] Seems RubyBarChart_wrap.cxx is autogenerated.  Was it there
  156253 [noSpam@no pa] That is an excellent question...  It has been so long,
  156257 [nobu.nokada@] Setting $objs to all object files, and separating dependency

[ANN] World's 1st Hamster-Powered Mud Server! (in Ruby)
156203 [jlsysinc@al ] [ANN] World's 1st Hamster-Powered Mud Server! (in Ruby)
+ 156206 [dooby@d1 .k ] LMT&AO  ( but don't tell anyone ;D )
+ 156208 [nick@at as i] This has to be the best software release announcement email I've ever
  156237 [james@gr yp ] Definitely.
  156264 [Bil.Kleb@NA ] I just hope big brother isn't following my

[ANN] acgi-0.1.0
156209 [Ara.T.Howard] URIS

REXML feature request: XPath.match.text & better text documentation
156215 [dan@da ko n.] Sean, et al, thanks for a great piece of software in REXML.  I would
+ 156238 [gavin@re in ] doc = Document.new( string, :ignore_whitespace_nodes => :all )
+ 156247 [gavin@re in ] Does this help you?

[ANN] Zero to Rails
156216 [ryand-ruby@z] From absolutely nothing to a running rails app in under two minutes.
+ 156239 [gavin@re in ] Demo movie mirrored at http://phrogz.net/RubyLibs/
+ 156243 [gavin@re in ] BTW, that's frickin' awesome. I've wanted OG->SQL for a very long time.
| 156284 [ryand-ruby@z] Well, it'd be easier to modify your data. 1) OG4 now has tables which
+ 156250 [p_bossi_AGAI] awesome, disarming, astonishing!
| 156269 [codeslave@gm] ...
+ 156261 [none@no e. o] Nice !!!
| 156361 [ryand-ruby@z] Sorry? What do you mean by shortcuts?
+ 156279 [p_bossi_AGAI] Ryan, I have a few questions from a collegue (who in turns indicated
  156287 [ryand-ruby@z] rapidj starts at $400US and does one thing only. Graffle starts at
  156288 [p_bossi_AGAI] Indeed he was more impressed by graffle than rapidj! :-)

How to start Tidy on WinXP?
156223 [dan@da ko n.] Using the sample script that came with the Tidy library, I get the
156307 [matt.mower@g] Your Tidy.path statement looks okay.  I'm wondering whether this might
156363 [dan@da ko n.] That fixed it, thanks.

you can't get in trouble with your boss for picking C#
156230 [phlipcpp@ya ] Here's a nice advocacy anecdote. A colleague vents, "So they hired him to
+ 156233 [florgro@gm i] C# is heavily taking ideas from Ruby right now -- which is no surprise,
| 156405 [timsuth@ih g] Example from future C# ...
+ 156236 [jcromartie@g] C# is The Devil, capital "T" capital "D," plain and simple.  There is
| 156244 [florgro@gm i] Please, have a look at
| + 156268 [rob.02004@gm] ...
| + 156291 [klancaster19] C# certainly borrowed (aka stole) from java, which in turn was a
| | + 156297 [phlipcpp@ya ] That's the thing. To compete against a crappy language backed by Daddy
| | | + 156301 [florgro@gm i] C# has always had anonymous functions, but only recently they have added
| | | + 156308 [josh.charles] Try building an operating system without static typing.  The point is
| | |   + 156321 [florgro@gm i] Heh, I agree with your posting except for that last claim. Writing a
| | |   + 156331 [joevandyk@gm] Reimplementing Ruby
| | |   | 156333 [josh.charles] Very interesting.  But you'll still need C ;)  I'm interested to know
| | |   | 156377 [mailinglists] No, you need C to implement a virtual machine, but not for the
| | |   | + 156382 [lyndon.samso] ...
| | |   | | 156385 [phlipcpp@ya ] - test driven development
| | |   | + 156424 [josh.charles] My Point was that you still need to use C (a _strongly_ typed
| | |   | | + 156428 [halostatue@g] C is anything *BUT* a strongly typed language. C is a very weakly typed
| | |   | | | 156436 [daryl@br nd ] "C is strongly-typed" is indeed a pernicious meme.
| | |   | | + 156450 [chneukirchen] How ironic. :-)  Did you ever look into the Ruby implementation?
| | |   | | + 156481 [phlipcpp@ya ] First, some guideposts. C is weakly statically typed. Ruby is strongly
| | |   | |   156549 [tristan.allw] Hey all,
| | |   | |   + 156561 [phlipcpp@ya ] That's because I don't understand it.
| | |   | |   + 156566 [mailinglists] You forget that this does absolutely not fit into the ruby model. You
| | |   | |   | + 156570 [phlipcpp@ya ] Just a note, dude. I clicked on your URL there, and was greeted with...
| | |   | |   | | + 156571 [johnwilger@g] Odd. I pine for vim when I'm (for whatever reason) forced to use some
| | |   | |   | | | 156573 [andrew.stuar] I'm the boss at my company and you'd get in trouble if you chose C#.
| | |   | |   | | + 156578 [lyndon.samso] ...
| | |   | |   | | + 156607 [martindemell] The "learning curve" is a red herring here. You're making the classic
| | |   | |   | |   156650 [phlipcpp@ya ] The root principle of Usability (as a discipline for designing human-machine
| | |   | |   | + 156574 [p.capriotti@] In Haskell you have both overloaded operators/functions and type inference.
| | |   | |   | | 156593 [tristan.allw] Hey again,
| | |   | |   | + 156595 [surrender_it] But I think that the Haskell model would be quite hard to retrofit into
| | |   | |   + 156582 [florgro@gm i] This is changed in C# 3. You will be able to do var and AFAIK there is
| | |   | |     + 156596 [surrender_it] in C# 2.0 there is type inference for delegates IIRC
| | |   | |     | + 156599 [the.mindstor] #: gabriele renzi changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/18/2005 12:36 PM :#
| | |   | |     | + 156773 [florgro@gm i] I think they have been picking quite a minimalist set considering where
| | |   | |     + 156815 [igouy@ya oo ] Yes, C# 3.0 and VB9 are going in a very interesting direction.
| | |   | |       156818 [brockweaver@] ...
| | |   | |       + 156862 [rick@no ne .] *snip*
| | |   | |       | + 156870 [khaines@en g] Ditto.  I run millions of dynamic web requests through daemon processes
| | |   | |       | + 157120 [brockweaver@] ...
| | |   | |       + 156876 [scott@al da ] Java had some tooling that Ruby could use.  For example, even the
| | |   | |       + 157387 [jwkenne@at g] Not so, actually. All Java string constants and compile-time expressions
| | |   | + 156448 [chneukirchen] Actually, you need C to *bootstrap* a virtual machine.  Lots of other
| | |   + 156346 [igouy@ya oo ] That would be a job for BCPL :-)
| | + 156304 [khaines@en g] What is "enterprise ready"?  My perception of the answer depends on who is
| |   + 156395 [bob.news@gm ] Btw, is J2EE enterprise ready?  Is there a significant number of
| |   | + 156398 [Roland.Schmi] Yes, they are.
| |   | | 156399 [bob.news@gm ] Can you post some figures (# of hosts, max concurrent users etc.) or is
| |   | | 156401 [Roland.Schmi] - 10 Servers (8*CPUs...)
| |   | | 156406 [bob.news@gm ] You need 80 CPU's to serve 120-160 concurrent users?  That would be 2
| |   | | + 156408 [mailinglists] Maybe you missed the bad word in his email: SAP
| |   | | + 156414 [Roland.Schmi] It is not that simple. There is a lot of graphic processing, character
| |   | + 156438 [khaines@en g] Fortunately, the last time I had to face the Java/Web world was 3 years and 5
| |   | + 156598 [the.mindstor] #: Robert Klemme changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/16/2005 10:16 AM :#
| |   |   156600 [bob.news@gm ] Been busy with a non J2EE-Java application that is DB intesive.  Also, I
| |   |   156611 [twifkak@co c] Yeah, nothing's changed.
| |   |   156615 [bob.news@gm ] In fact it's an octopus's garden - but don't tell anyone: I would not want
| |   + 156474 [ jupp@gm .d ] Such terms are called "buzzwords" where a buzzword is a word
| + 156315 [transfire@gm] Had to do it.
| | 156324 [florgro@gm i] Careful! C# delegates don't actually delegate messages. Instead they are
| | 156334 [transfire@gm] Oh, is that all? Where've they been these last years? ;-)
| | 156362 [phlipcpp@ya ] When Daddy Warbucks tells his minions to promote Language X, and if it
| | 156364 [lyndon.samso] ...
| + 156618 [ts_news1@so ] I couldn't agree more. I think what pushed many of us toward ruby was
|   156634 [lyndon.samso] ...
+ 156819 [cpatti@gm il] Beg to differ.  I can't speak to C#, but Java is thriving.  Look in
+ 157027 [miguel.de.ic] You must not have looked very hard.  The RPMs are right there on the

How to unsubscribe?
156231 [uberkorp@ub ] Can somebody please tell me how to unsubscribe from this list?
156669 [ruby.brian@g] the mail body

[SUMMARY] NDiff (#46)
156232 [james@gr yp ] Both solutions had some really interesting material in them.  I would certainly
156277 [Bil.Kleb@NA ] You need to take credit for the Summary
156320 [james@gr yp ] My general rule is that if it doesn't have a by-line, it was me.

[RubyConf] Registration is closed
156240 [dblack@wo bl] Registration for RubyConf 2005 is now closed.  We have reached full

Math: sum and faculty
156248 [daniel.schie] I hereby propose two additions to Ruby. Please come with some comments
156254 [theHaPK@ya d] This could be done with Enumerable#inject. Your implementation assumes
+ 156259 [bob.news@gm ] This should go into Enumerable if at all.
| 156267 [martindemell] Actually, something in between would be quite nice in terms of code
| + 156274 [bob.news@gm ] The difference isn't really that big, is it?
| | 156286 [greg@gr ha t] The cool thing about Ruby is that if you don't like the clutter, you
| + 156366 [sean.ohalpin] How about
|   156552 [martindemell] Definitely. OTOH, it's also worth stepping back every so often and
+ 156327 [christophe.g] It's just a (not so much used in my experience) synonym for "factorial"
  156433 [chneukirchen] The real reason is probably that both "factorial" (maths) and
  156628 [christophe.g] Must be! :) However, I found this use in at least one page about Java,
  156641 [dbatml@gm .d] It seems to be similar in Danish (fakultet), Dutch (fakulteit) and Swedish
  156676 [daniel.schie] I am :)

FCGI not responding to signals
156252 [jamis@37 ig ] Rails applications that use FCGI have been observing some strange
+ 156285 [Ara.T.Howard] on which platforms?
+ 156311 [Ara.T.Howard] <snip trouble restarting fcgi apps>
+ 156454 [aamine@lo er] If you are using pure Ruby fcgi.rb, try latest CVS version.

newbie Q: introspection to find __FILE__ and __LINE__
156270 [email55555@g] What method can introspect to find __FILE__ and __LINE__ variables name ?
+ 156275 [nobu.nokada@] Those are reserved keyword, not variables.
+ 156276 [email55555@g] Thank you.

ri rdoc for installed gems?
156271 [jpshack@gm i] A year ago there was discussion around having an option for rubygems

net/ftp with ssl?
156272 [khaines@en g] I have a program that needs to interact with an FTP server that only talks FTP

[ANN] RedCloth 3.0.4 -- Humane Text for Ruby
156283 [ruby-talk@wh] RedCloth 3.0.4 is out today.  What does it mean?  Don't try to read too

comp.lang.ruby FAQ
156290 [hal9000@hy e] RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2005-4-14)

comp.lang.ruby FAQ
156294 [hal9000@hy e] RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2005-4-14)

A big project
156298 [mike.novecen] I am going to start a new company in a little while. The company will
+ 156302 [phlipcpp@ya ] Which of those three make unit testing DIRT SIMPLE?
+ 156316 [david.heinem] Considering that you came here to ask this question, I'm going to
| + 156322 [mike.novecen] Thank you David. You are actually one of the few names of the Ruby
| + 156473 [drbrain@se m] Our sites (combined) handled over 1 million requests due to a naughty
|   156475 [the.mindstor] #: Eric Hodel changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/16/2005 8:13 PM :#
|   156476 [Daniel.Berge] Polite spiders should obey a robots.txt file.  The bad ones, well, you
|   156477 [the.mindstor] #: Berger, Daniel changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/16/2005 8:46 PM :#
|   156509 [drbrain@se m] Apache provides the 3rd solution.  There's plenty of hits on google.
+ 156338 [the.mindstor] #: mike.novecento@gmail.com changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/15/2005 8:06 PM :#
+ 156344 [ezra@ya im -] You definitely need to make an informed decision about which
  156349 [mike.novecen] Thank you Ezra. Very Helpful.

MS Access
156299 [sdouglas949@] I'm considering learning Ruby.  I have no programming experience yet.  I was
156303 [phlipcpp@ya ] Absolutely. Database are designed to access a wide warehouse of data through
+ 156306 [brockweaver@] ...
+ 156335 [phinsxiii@gm] ...
| + 156336 [se@di it le ] Using the Ruby MySQL Module
| | + 156343 [phinsxiii@gm] ...
| | + 156347 [phinsxiii@gm] ...
| |   156352 [jqshenker@gm] Sean,I needed to compile/install mysql (running ./configure--without-server) from source to get the required developmentlibraries under Cygwin. (then I moved the newly-created clientbinaries out of the way so I could use the Win32-native mysqlbinaries.) After that, it worked like a charm. *Do not compile theCygwin-ized mysql client with "--with-openssl"* I don't know why, butthe gem refused to install if I did. Good luck, and let me know if yourun into any issues. Overall, developing on Cygwin for Ruby/Rails isquite nice.
| |   156353 [phinsxiii@gm] ...
| |   + 156360 [jqshenker@gm] Yes.After that, everything should be happy happy happy (you'll get myexact setup, and it does work for me). If any step fails or isconfusing, I'll either try to help you or just send you my binaries.Hope it works!
| |   + 156461 [phinsxiii@gm] ...
| |     156506 [jqshenker@gm] Sean,I'm going to try to explain *exactly* what I did, and hopefully you'llsee something you forgot to do.1. Download mysql-essential-4.1.14-win32.msi from mysql.org and install it.2. Download mysql-4.1.13.tar.gz from mysql.org3. Extract the above, and run "./configure -C --without-server" (the-C enables config caching, I use it because the ./configure scriptruns very slowly under Cygwin. Optional, of course)4. Run "make && make install"5. Run "gem install mysql"6. Go make cool rails apps!
| |     156539 [phinsxiii@gm] ...
| |     + 156541 [sellberg@gm ] ...
| |     | 156542 [phinsxiii@gm] ...
| |     | 156553 [jqshenker@gm] Sean,Let me get this straight. The problem is when you installed MySQL forWindows from the .msi installer, you didn't install the server. (So inthe wizard setp with all the white hard-drive icons, you selected thinstall the client programs and possibly the development files. Notthe "MySQL Server") You needed to select the "Server" to get a runningMySQL installation. When you say "that is not an option", why? (Didthe installer not ask you or did you not want to because ofsecurity/other reasons?) If you did indeed select to install theserver, a Database Cluster Initialization Wizard should have popped upsometime during the install. Oh, and Linus is right in that "mysql -h"doesn't accept localhost, use 127.0.0.1 instead. Once the server isinstalled, "net start mysql" to make sure it is running. You'regetting really close, so hang on!
| |     + 156572 [dave@bu t. d] Have you tried using MyODBC with Ruby-DBI via the ODBC DBD? It was mentioned
| + 156337 [SimonKroeger] Ok, this isn't 'good' but short and shows that it is realy easy to
| + 156342 [dave@bu t. d] If you're not only concerned about the database, or even if you'd like to
| | 156348 [phlipcpp@ya ] Driving Access through COM, essentially operating its user interface to read
| | 156434 [dave@bu t. d] You're right if all you care about is a nicely designed database. I haven't
| + 156368 [gavin@re in ] Following is a sanitized example of code I use at work to connect
+ 156403 [doc@do on el] As a beginner with 2 wks experience I can say that ODBC usage is easy

Appropriate use of "inject()" ?
156305 [itsme213@ho ] I have a hash table HASH containing strings, and want to generate a string
+ 156310 [mrcode@ne ro] HASH = {'a' => 'A', 'b' => 'B'}
+ 156312 [ef@al m. it ] HASH.map { |k,v| "'#{k}' : '#{v}'"}.join(',')
+ 156314 [w_a_x_man@ya] puts "var JS = {\n\t" + HASH.map{|k,v|
+ 156318 [martindemell] The simplest is the two-pass
  156326 [itsme213@ho ] Ah, I need to think more "functional programming".
  156397 [bob.news@gm ] => {"a"=>"A", "b"=>"B"}

[rrt_ruby]Ruby and RoseRT
156309 [damphyr@fr e] I have a Ruby wrapper library for RRTEI (Rose RealTime Extensibility
156317 [Daniel.Berge] Go ahead, create a project on RubyForge, and publish it.  Even if we're
156329 [damphyr@fr e] Well, if I were you, I would hope never to have to use it, it would mean
156351 [shanko_date@] I am with Dan on this one ... even if there is no one using it today, that is not to say that
156373 [prakash.diby] ...
156525 [damphyr@fr e] Oh, I will release, it's what I intended from the beginning (I just need
156527 [prakash.diby] ...

Error using soap/wsdlDriver
156323 [matt.hulse@g] I am attempting to use ruby to connect to a webservice.  I am able to
156400 [nakahiro@sa ] Would you please try to call WSDLDriverFactory#create_rpc_driver instead
156471 [matt.hulse@g] Thank you for the response.
156487 [nakahiro@sa ] I think you are accessing to document/literal service.  You shoul pass a

Drag and Drop program launch on Windows
156330 [gavin@re in ] I want to be able to drag and drop a txt file onto my ruby program,
+ 156332 [gavin@re in ] Well, here's a better way. Still not ideal (where ideal would be
+ 156345 [nobu.nokada@] It needs to install a drag-and-drop handler.  I often use "Drop
+ 156357 [Digikata@gm ] You could just put the shortcut in the "Send To" directory. Then it's
  156365 [caldridge@gm] 1) Download rubyscript2exe-0.4.0.rb from sourceforge..

[ANN] ritex 0.1: WebTeX -> MathML
156341 [wmorgan-ruby] I'm happy to announce the release of Ritex 0.1.

[ANN] KirbyRecord 0.0.0
156350 [logancapaldo] ...
+ 156355 [ezra@ya im -] Logan-
+ 156369 [jcribbs@tw i] Nice job, Logan!
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