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[ann] aeditor-2.4 (turbo release)
131258 [neoneye@gm i] AEditor is a programmers editor, capable of folding, bookmarks, syntax
131262 [neoneye@gm i] jpedrosa pointed out that line number 306 in 'lexer.rb' must be erased

A little bit confused about array+array addition (bug or expected behavior?)
131265 [GGarramuno@a] => [1, 2]
+ 131263 [flgr@cc n. e] You are not passing variables by reference, you are passing objects by
+ 131264 [assaph@gm il] reference?
| + 131293 [GGarramuno@a] Yes, that's what I had figured.  I had not realized the existance of
| | 131321 [kjana@dm la ] But what you need in this particular case is Array#concat.
| + 131320 [bob.news@gm ] "Assaph Mehr" <assaph@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
+ 131332 [langstefan@g] This creates a new array and assigns it to the local variable x.

Re: Any Shreveport, La. Rubyists?
131271 [w3gat@nw ag ] I'd like to meet with anyone using Ruby in the Shreveport area

installed ruby on linux without su access
131275 [contact_us@h] Beside http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?RubyWithoutRoot
+ 131277 [jamesUNDERBA] What sort of access do you have? telnet? ssh? ftp?
| + 131281 [contact_us@h] I have fpt,ssh and of coruse http access. Do you mind share your way to us.
| | 131287 [jamesUNDERBA] If you have ssh, you're in like Flynn.
| | 131292 [contact_us@h] I tried, but get the following error
| | 131296 [gfb@to es ft] It may be so that your provider has the filesystem where your home
| + 131282 [contact_us@h] One more, I don't use Perly, but PHP is my other language beside Ruby.
+ 131294 [probertm@ac ] 1. get the tar ball (ruby-1.8.2.tar.gz)
| 131295 [contact_us@h] I get error on step 3
| + 131314 [martin.anker] I guess you cannot do anything  about this, thats a limitation enforced
| + 131316 [ruby-lists@l] find out what the providers running. install it. build. copy.
| + 131317 [navindra@cs ] How much long are you going to read that output, paste that output,
|   131479 [contact_us@h] ...
|   131604 [probertm@ac ] Get the sysadmin to change the permissions on gcc.  755 may be suitable ...
|   131901 [contact_us@h] I will do this
+ 131497 [lists@za a. ] Someone will eventually suggest this, so it might as well be me.
+ 131681 [google@er kv] If you run Linux on your machine, you might want to use

question about rite
131276 [spoooq@gm il] Will there be a way to get a function called on -every-
131285 [matz@ru y- a] I feel like that wild card wrapping is not common enough to support
131485 [spoooq@gm il] Thank you for your quick answer. Next time Im in Japan,
131498 [matz@ru y- a] Thank you.  Soft drink is good enough, since I don't drink.

Ruby Visual Identity Team
131284 [ng@jo nw on ] Recently I've seen a couple of people mention how much they would like
+ 131288 [jamesUNDERBA] I nominate me to redesign ruby-doc.org.  I appreciate the offer, but
| + 131300 [centrepins@g] I'm not nominating me because I a) don't have much in the way of web
| + 131307 [rff_rff@re o] (my two cents)
| | + 131328 [sroberts@un ] I didn't know that it did anything, and when I pressed it, i don't know
| | | 131344 [ruby.talk.li] The intent is to provide a way to give more information about any
| | | + 131349 [agorilla@gm ] I agree that it's not obvious, but I like the feature.  Perhaps a
| | | + 131357 [sroberts@ce ] Just trying to give useful feedback... and I don't understand what the
| | |   + 131432 [ruby.talk.li] Sorry; I read the post too fast.  The ads I'm accountable for are on
| | |   | 131435 [eero.saynatk] A 'ruby' doesn't really lend itself for logos, so being that this is
| | |   | 131489 [spoooq@gm il] A Maneki Neko, perhaps? :)
| | |   + 131437 [rampant@gm i] ??
| | |   | 131457 [sroberts@un ] Really? Maybe you have a blocker?
| | |   + 131438 [ruby.talk.li] Thanks, and I agree that I wasn't all that specifc about what does or
| | + 131473 [jamesUNDERBA] Good question.  The intent was to provide a way to render some metadata
| |   + 131478 [eero.saynatk] Anecdotally, a white 'i' on a blue background is generally recognized
| |   | 131487 [jamesUNDERBA] I may do that.  If you don't know what that icon is for, you'll want to
| |   + 131536 [rff_rff@re o] I'd just add a tiny box on the right with "link info" on top and
| |     131564 [jamesUNDERBA] Good thought.
| + 131324 [ng@jo nw on ] I would definately nominate you to be part of the the team to work on
| | 131360 [curt@hi bs c] I don't have strong design skills to offer (although, I can recognize good
| + 131338 [sera@fh an .] Hear, hear. I think that the problem with Ruby's online presence is not
| | + 131346 [listen@ma cr] maybe we could reuse the Ruby?Weekly?News as news items on ruby-lang.org
| | | + 131348 [matz@ru y- a] I have just found that currently David Alan Black was the only English
| | | | + 131352 [ruby.talk.li] Sure.  By the way, who should I contact to get my access issues
| | | | | + 131393 [matz@ru y- a] Contact www-admin _at_ ruby-lang.org with your crypted htpasswd.
| | | | | + 131440 [zdennis@mk e] I'd be willing to volunteer to assist wherever I could for this David,
| | | | + 131629 [dblack@wo bl] ...
| | | + 131350 [sera@fh an .] That'd be a start. My gut feeling, though, is that something that big
| | + 131486 [jamesUNDERBA] Indeed.  There are several issues here, one of them being aesthetics and
| |   131493 [sera@fh an .] Makes sense. I guess if you want a Ruby-wide news feed you can
| |   131502 [jamesUNDERBA] There are no frames.  This is CSS + XHTML + JavaScript.
| |   131507 [sera@fh an .] Ah, my bad. I wasn't looking carefully at the code. Though it's the
| |   131514 [jamesUNDERBA] Yes, though truthfully I think it entirely slipped my mind when writing
| + 131355 [bg-rubytalk@] I can't do beautiful design.  If I tried to design myself out of a paper
|   131386 [ezra@ya im -] ...
+ 131330 [flgr@cc n. e] While I'll probably not be able to spend a lot of time on this I would
| + 131340 [blaumag@gm i] Definitely onboard, as Raymond Babbitt (aka Rain Man) would put it. I
| + 131381 [chneukirchen] I surely would enjoy helping, too.
+ 131361 [bg-rubytalk@] So Matz asked Chad Fowler, David A. Black and James Britt to lead the
| 131364 [curt@hi bs c] Thanks for the volunteer summary, I will be sure to add those to the project
| 131403 [ng@jo nw on ] What is the project name? Let us know so we can join it when it has been
| 131409 [curt@hi bs c] Its "vit" (for Visual Identity Team), and I've already added you. Most of
+ 131412 [maki@ru yc l] Nihon Ruby no Kai (Japan Ruby Group) launched a project
| 132005 [steve.brumba] In case anyone's interested in reading the comments, I made an English
+ 131447 [gavin@re in ] Design a single uber navigation bar that links between ruby-lang.org,

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131303 [lgomez@vf ne] Luis G?mez

ruby-dev summary 25642-25708
131313 [ko1@at ot ne] This is ruby-dev summary 25642-25708.
131323 [rff_rff@re o] what kind of maintenance were the old libraries getting?

[SUMMARY] Yahtzee (#19)
131331 [james@gr yp ] Well, there wasn't any discussion or submissions this week, save my own.  Guess

emacs syntax highlighting problem
131333 [Tim.Ferrell@] Let me first say I am new to emacs ... so this may be something embarrassingly simple :-)
+ 131436 [Tim.Ferrell@] Some further investigation uncovered the culprit: ruby-electric.el (
| + 131522 [ksibilev@be ] I'm using ruby-electric.el and never had any problems with syntax
| | 131557 [Tim.Ferrell@] Fixed it ... I was loading ruby-electric before I turned on global-font-lock
| + 131617 [jeff@op nd m] I use emacs exclusively. I've found the ruby-mode ebuild to be sufficient
|   131630 [Tim.Ferrell@] As I understand (I just got it working today *g*), it offers block completion...
|   131661 [caiot1@ib st] It turns /#/.matches(foo) in a slash and a comment?
|   131669 [Tim.Ferrell@] I tried all three here and (if I understood you correctly) it is, in fact, no,
+ 131654 [mike.danylch] I suspect that most font-lock problems like this are caused by the

net::ssh popen3 issue?
131351 [ritchie@ip w] I'm using popen3 to query a database. I'm returning 20 records but I'm
+ 131353 [jamis_buck@b] It sounds like it might be a timing issue... there are a lot of those
| 131354 [ritchie@ip w] Jamis thanks for your answer, it worked.
| 131455 [jamis_buck@b] Yes, on both counts. The timing issues occur because the output from
+ 131356 [djberg96@ho ] I'm
  131362 [ritchie@ip w] I'm writing an admin system to a remote server, which I'd like to be
  131372 [djberg96@ho ] as

Marick's testing book (Ruby-based)
131358 [Bil.Kleb@NA ] Later,

Python at SIAM conference
131363 [Bil.Kleb@NA ] There were several sessions devoted to "scripting" languages

ruby ncurses does not compile
131368 [gints.polis@] I am trying to use ruby on PDA.  I got it working.  Now I try to install
+ 131396 [gints.polis@] Reply to my self ... for archives....
+ 131540 [cameron.mcbr] which PDA if I may ask?

2/24 = 0?; or, how do I add hours to a DateTime?
131370 [rpardee@co c] Hey All,
+ 131373 [wannes@oe ni] an integer divided by an integer gives you an integer
+ 131376 [bob.news@gm ] <rpardee@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| 131384 [rpardee@co c] Thanks Wannes & Robert--that clears things up for me.
| + 131417 [sroberts@un ] here's an example of how to do this, from http://vpim.rubyforge.org
| + 131430 [rasputnik@he] one way would be to call your file something like
+ 131450 [gavin@re in ] Just in case it helps, I have a MutableTime class (which wraps the Time
  131559 [flgr@cc n. e] This is nice, does it work correctly with leap seconds and so on?
  131674 [gavin@re in ] It simply wraps the Time class, so whatever the Time class does

question about tar in Ruby
131383 [vidhi.ghelan] ...
+ 131395 [springer@si ] change tar -cf #.tar.gz file to tar -czf #.tar.gz file
+ 131398 [halostatue@g] Yes. Look at Archive::Tar::Minitar on RubyForge under the Ruwiki project.
  131410 [vidhi.ghelan] I could not find it . I got to the Ruwiki page and I am lost....can you
  131413 [halostatue@g] -austin
  131484 [contact_us@h] ...

./configure --libdir problem
131385 [B.Candler@po] I've got a compilation issue.
131423 [B.Candler@po] I made a patch which seems to fix this for me - see below. (Note that I've

[BUG] parse error in complex heredocs
131390 [ruby-lists@l] check <<-ENDTEST, [:blah
+ 131392 [decoux@mo lo] You have written this
| 131397 [ruby-lists@l] i had assumed that the fact that it was a hash (my mail had mistake -
| 131401 [navindra@cs ] The same thing happens if you try to put an array comma on the next
+ 131394 [ruby-lists@l] oops there goes 'prerelease test testing'

[EVALUATION] - E02 - Nitro, a Ruby Based WebFramework
131404 [ilias@la ar ] [EVALUATION] - E01: The Java Failure - May Ruby Helps?
+ 131445 [aredridel@gm] what are you trying to accomplish?
| 131490 [spoooq@gm il] Wow, I actually predicted this post in another thread. Nitro vs ruby is clearly
| + 131494 [ruby-lists@l] not too sure to be honest.
| | + 131495 [spoooq@gm il] Im investigating nitro myself now, so trolls can be a catalyst for
| | | 131633 [ilias@la ar ] Possibly it's the ultimate proof tha ruby programmers have to train
| | + 131496 [ruby-lists@l] i take this back i read some of the various
| | | + 131506 [agorilla@gm ] Sounds about right.  The list of boards, user groups, news groups and
| | | | + 131592 [chneukirchen] Total fun. :-)
| | | | | 131605 [ilias@la ar ] Good old times.
| | | | | + 131608 [ruby-lists@l] damn. this post is hilarious!
| | | | | + 131610 [chneukirchen] Yeah, I liked you better when you were in the other groups back then.
| | | | |   131622 [ilias@la ar ] I liked myself better, too.
| | | | |   131625 [chneukirchen] If you dismiss a language due the lack of referencing an influent
| | | | |   131632 [ilias@la ar ] John McCarthy: inventor/discoverer of LISP (and thus the "Grand Father"
| | | | |   131729 [chneukirchen] I know that very well.
| | | | |   131741 [ilias@la ar ] exaggeration.
| | | | |   131743 [chneukirchen] Sorry, I got you wrong then. }:-)
| | | | |   131746 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (repetition)
| | | | + 131602 [ilias@la ar ] A very intresting viewpoint.
| | | + 131591 [ilias@la ar ] This information is false.
| | |   + 131598 [ruby-lists@l] i don't have the time to show the multiple times that you
| | |   | 131620 [ilias@la ar ] Of course you don't have the time.
| | |   | 131730 [martin.anker] Graz is a *really* nice city! I have been living there last summer. A
| | |   + 131623 [agorilla@gm ] ahh, "weak liar" is a compliment.  I'll make a note of that.
| | |   | 131644 [ilias@la ar ] If someone lies, then he's a liar.
| | |   + 131679 [lists@be tr ] Bertram
| | + 131586 [ilias@la ar ] The nitro-response showed the easiest way to answer to such an request.
| + 131518 [martindemell] Except that Nitro is written in ruby :)
|   131519 [spoooq@gm il] I thought he was talking about the nitro programming language?
|   131523 [martindemell] (Any links on nitro-the-language? All I found was the pdf of someone's
|   131524 [spoooq@gm il] The pdfs are in Spanish.
|   131593 [ilias@la ar ] Thank you for this very intresting information.
+ 131584 [ilias@la ar ] I apologize for not providing pointers, giving this way the foundation
+ 131748 [ilias@la ar ] into the template.
  131760 [ilias@la ar ] ok
  + 131774 [martindemell] Quite apart from Austin's rant on the fundamental brokenness of the
  | 131803 [halostatue@g] Generally speaking, yes. The only OODBMS systems that will work well
  | 131818 [ilias@la ar ] Note that this is again off-topic.
  | + 131819 [martindemell] The missing question is "Are large scale OODBMS bindings fundamentally
  | | 131827 [ilias@la ar ] This question is not relevant in my evaluation context.
  | + 131821 [ruby-lists@l] reread without your "correction"
  + 131828 [robert.mcgov] Surely you are capable of looking this up yourself?
  | 131856 [ilias@la ar ] This is a simple conversation, which I make in public instead within
  | 131899 [rampant@gm i] No, really: surely you can look things up yourself, hold up your side
  + 131891 [ilias@la ar ] ...
  + 131928 [george.mosch] Ilias,
    131934 [ilias@la ar ] you can simply write an answer, and direct it to me via email.

Evaluating a string of Ruby code within an anonymous module: done correctly?
131407 [ay1204@qa i.] I'd like to evaluate a string of Ruby code (stored in a YAML file, as
+ 131414 [ay1204@qa i.] Actually, I forgot to mention the other main very important reason for
+ 131421 [vjoel@PA H. ] Here's another way of passing in args, using a fixed method name
  131424 [vjoel@PA H. ] def empty_binding
  131434 [ay1204@qa i.] I think I like this method best.  very nice!
  131439 [ay1204@qa i.] Just one thing: why the use of 'proc do ... end ' rather than lambda?
  131446 [vjoel@PA H. ] AFAIK, lambda and proc are the same in ruby. But there may have been

FXTable, how to switch off row header?
131411 [ritchie@ip w] tried setting this attr to 0
131471 [vjoel@PA H. ] Well, leadingCols and leadingRows are no longer used in Fox 1.2, since
131683 [ritchie@ip w] thanks for the info

[OT] Regular expressions in Gmail filters?
131415 [lyle.johnson] Does anyone know how I can set up a Gmail filter that looks
+ 131416 [agorilla@gm ] Seems you can't, but why would you possibly need to filter that?
| 131441 [lyle.johnson] Ugh. Well, thanks for pointing me to that information anyways, Bill.
+ 131429 [rampant@gm i] You might be able to get away with searching for "EVALUATION" in the
  131442 [lyle.johnson] I don't think that will cut it, although I may just be missing your point.

backtick vrs native ruby
131418 [probertm@ac ] In one of my apps, I am doing something like
+ 131425 [andre@di ir ] I'd go with
+ 131534 [    s@xs .d ] I'd go with the second one for everything that's not a one-time hack.

Ruby Visual Identity Team -- ML is ready!
131419 [curt@hi bs c] There is general agreement that Ruby web site is in need of improvement.

How to get the module that a class resides in?
131420 [james.cromwe] How can I do the equivalent of the following?
131433 [ryand-ruby@z] class Class
131576 [james.cromwe] What I'm really looking for is a more generic method, something like
131652 [csaba@ph ny ] Although far from being elegant, and won't work for anonymous classes,

ICFP Contest Dates Are Set
131422 [james@gr yp ] It's pretty early yet, but a lot of coders need time to plan and gather
131465 [rff_rff@re o] if you do, maybe reading the report from Mauricio Fernandez related to
131466 [james@gr yp ] Wow, good read.  Thanks for sharing.
131521 [martindemell] Yeah, that was my first thought too. For something as fast-paced and
131537 [rff_rff@re o] yeah, but what if you can't come up with a local team and still want to
131609 [shalev@si pl] Yeah! Nobody said you had to win.
131611 [james@gr yp ] People do enter the ICFP Contest alone, just FYI.  It's a lot of work
131614 [tanner.burso] This might be a perfect starting place for the Ruby Virtual User's Group :)
131627 [shalev@si pl] Heh heh.  I haven't taken a look at the specifics of this yet, is there
131636 [james@gr yp ] Nope.  I believe I've seen as many as nine people on a team before.
131663 [shalev@si pl] Nine? That's it? It seems to me that if a team could develop a really
131664 [james@gr yp ] Well, too many cooks spoil the dish, as the saying goes.  ;)
131667 [shalev@si pl] Right. The challenge is to increase the cook capacity.
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