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Ruby/DL and functions that modify a pointer
129348 [bg-rubytalk@] I just started using Ruby/DL and am amazed at what it can do.  I've
129500 [ttate@tt ky ] Please use the method 'struct' like 'extern', and the following example
129513 [bg-rubytalk@] Thanks so much for your help Takaaki,
129602 [ttate@tt ky ] module MyLIB
129676 [bg-rubytalk@] Thanks so much Takaaki, that works perfectly, I'm now wrapping a library

yarv and dbi
129351 [jeffm@gh st ] Anyone out there tried dbi with yarv
+ 129355 [cmills@fr es] I don't think YARV supports Kernel.require yet.
| 129357 [jeffm@gh st ] Thanks. I've now verified that it doesn't work with require 'abbrev' or
+ 129358 [ko1@at ot ne] [ yarv and dbi ]
  129414 [cmills@fr es] script
  129420 [jeffm@gh st ] I'll be a willing test subject.
  129429 [navindra@cs ] In what context did you find Ruby to be slow?  A website of yours?  Be
  129440 [jeffm@gh st ] Processing flow data from a router. The script caches user information
  + 129506 [halostatue@g] Could your script be doing things that could be improved in performance?
  | 129511 [mneumann@nt ] Well, I think Ruby/DBI is not the fastest. It parses (and splits) each
  | + 129523 [halostatue@g] Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com
  | + 129528 [cmills@fr es] each
  |   + 129535 [mneumann@nt ] Yeah, good question. It tries to abstract over the database. Well,
  |   | 129577 [michael.walt] As Charles pointed out, the string-fumbling should merely be a fallback path.
  |   | 129580 [jeffm@gh st ] The script only runs dbi to extract data user details from an existing
  |   + 129631 [jim@we ri hh] Its been a _long_ time since I have looked at DBI/DBD code, but if I
  |     130704 [mneumann@nt ] No, you're correct. It's still working in the way you decribe.
  + 129547 [ryand-ruby@z] I have an open bug for the postgres dbi handler. It causes about a 7x

[ANN] Pimki 1.5
129372 [assaph@gm il] Pimki version 1.5 is out. This is a bug fixes release with some new
129390 [app1tam@up .] In order to get this to start under Windows with Ruby 1.8.2, I had to
129391 [app1tam@up .] I apologize, I forgot to include another line I had to patch,
129399 [app1tam@up .] I was not able to move the files from storage in v1.3 or v1.4 to the new

Nuby needs an intro to testing for Win 2K
129385 [barry@an le ] I'm trying to understand how to use the test/unit methods and I haven't
129388 [hgs@dm .a .u] Depends which bits you are trying to get your mind around.  If it is
129392 [barry@an le ] Thanks, I'll take a look at your link!
129396 [hgs@dm .a .u] I don't use Scite, so can't be sure how this interacts.
129400 [barry@an le ] I got the same error.
129402 [hgs@dm .a .u] Should be
129404 [barry@an le ] Thank you!
129405 [hgs@dm .a .u] The fact that the test failed showed me where the error was. Which
129411 [barry@an le ] Yes.
129465 [hgs@dm .a .u] Usually, when one does unit testing, the unit is a class. This is
129497 [barry@an le ] Thanks Hugh!
129503 [hgs@dm .a .u] That's OK.  If you have any contributions, patches, etc for my

newbie: Rails deliberations
129389 [peter.cuttin] I have alot of questions and (daft) opinions which I will place in this
+ 129403 [ruby.talk.li] I don't mean to discourage you from posting Rails questions here, but
+ 129410 [drbrain@se m] Yes.

session.rb @debug warning
129393 [pustoi@sp ls] I have tried to copy files with session. Coping is working, but I have

[ANN] Ruby Quiz Domain
129395 [james@gr yp ] Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm moving Ruby Quiz to a

win32ole error -- method_missing
129413 [Jack_Rabbit@] I'm just learning Ruby. I'd like to be able to control AutoCAD but

Re: Pimki 1.5
129416 [assaph@gm il] My bad. The docs should have have said MAJOR version, ie. pimki
129417 [assaph@gm il] new
129422 [app1tam@up .] When I tried importing the files, I got an error about an undefined
129425 [app1tam@up .] No, I used the a version number of 3 (as you said in the README) and it

How to access postgresql on windows
129418 [WernerBohl@i] How may I access Postgresql on windows? I already have a Ruby
129419 [mneumann@nt ] Yes, try the pure-Ruby postgres-pr module. It should run on Windows as

Asynchronous IO class or methods?
129421 [djberg96@ho ] Are there any plans to add support for the POSIX functions aio_read,
129661 [bob.news@gm ] "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

[ann] aeditor-2.3 (darkmatter release)
129423 [neoneye@gm i] AEditor is written in 1523 lines of ruby code. It depends on ncursesw and ruby.

Re: Wee 0.7.0 + Tutorial Videos
129426 [itsme213@ho ] I'm having trouble getting Nemo to run with Wee 0.7.0. Any ideas?
129430 [mneumann@nt ] Yes. You should wait for Nemo 0.3.0.
+ 129449 [itsme213@ho ] Michael, I may be doing something wrong, but none of the MPEGs worked
| + 129453 [ezra@ya im -] I could not get the videos to work either. On OS, Linux or Win. All it
| | + 129462 [ruby@ro la l] They worked fine for me on a windows XP box using windows media player 9.
| | + 129475 [mneumann@nt ] There are only 60k - 100k in size. You should see the logo and then the
| |   129516 [ezra@ya im -] ...
| |   + 129526 [zoso@fo on e] I'm not sure, but I think Sorenson is/was patented (if you mean Sorenson
| |   + 129536 [mneumann@nt ] Please download them as fast as possible, as I'm going tomorrow in
| |     129551 [ezra@ya im -] ...
| |     129552 [alang@cr no ] Go to the download page for Wee and use a web browser to click the
| + 129469 [mneumann@nt ] There are in DIVX4 format. I'll try to convert them into some other
|   + 129473 [rff_rff@re o] Divx5/Xvid :)
|   | + 129474 [rff_rff@re o] ...
|   | + 129478 [mneumann@nt ] yeah, now try that with "transcode"... only ffmpeg works for me, and
|   |   129484 [rff_rff@re o] IIRC mplayer was able to generate xvid, but I don't think you should be
|   + 129487 [se@di it le ] Definately XVID 1.0x if you can.
|     129490 [mneumann@nt ] Hm, sorry, that does not work here.
+ 129486 [kh@ne cl ar ] I've released the 0.1.2 gem with updates for Wee 0.7.0 compatibility.

symbols vs strings vs ?
129428 [joevandyk@gm] Any rules or guidelines on when to use symbols vs strings?  I'm not
129431 [assaph@gm il] Symbols are immutable strings. Every occurence of the same symbol
129434 [joevandyk@gm] It did help!  Thanks.
129438 [eero.saynatk] Always use a Symbol rather than a String, except if you
129441 [james@gr yp ] Hmm, don't think I agree with that.  What it you need to modify its
129442 [eero.saynatk] The way I thought of it is that if you need to modify a string,
129444 [dblack@wo bl] ...
129445 [dblack@wo bl] str = "a constant string"
129446 [jim@we ri hh] * Use strings when content matters
129507 [halostatue@g] ...and that matches mine, too.

rdoc consuming all available memory
129432 [usenet-norep] On my machine, rdoc continues to consume memory until the system becomes

Blogging software
129435 [probertm@ac ] What are your thoughts on blogging software?  I am looking for something that
+ 129463 [ptkwt@ar cn ] So far it's working pretty well for me.  I'm using webrick as the server.
+ 129464 [martindemell] hobix (running why's blog) looks very impressive - for one it's got a
+ 129466 [drejewic@ws ] - lightweight
+ 129493 [zdennis@mk e] I first tried Hobix, but had some problems up front which never got
+ 129495 [chneukirchen] You might want to try mine,
+ 129541 [snowzone5@ho] i'm porting my tkblog over to ruby...i'm using rubywebdialogs
+ 129566 [probertm@ac ] Thanks, everyone.

[ANN] Toronto Ruby User Group meeting 6 Feb 2005
129436 [mike@ro eb d] The Toronto Ruby User Group is having another meeting to eat and

ANN: net-mdns, multicast DNS and service discovery (aka "Rendezvous")
129443 [sroberts@un ] net-mdns is an extension to the standard 'resolv' resolver library that
+ 129514 [bg-rubytalk@] Thanks for putting this up!
+ 129557 [lyndon.samso] Rendezvous is a ( good ) Tibco messaging product, don't get their
  129637 [bg-rubytalk@] Um, google sez Apple wins.  Apple has called their implementation of
  129639 [rooneg@el ct] Actually, Apple is phasing out the name "Rendezvous" because of the
  129642 [sroberts@un ] Note that the lib is called net-mdns, and the only mention of

[Terminology] What's the Ruby/OO name for this paradigm?
129447 [eero.saynatk] In my current project, one of the main paradigms is code such as in
+ 129450 [drbrain@se m] Its called "Currying".
+ 129454 [martindemell] Technically currying, but from the example it looks like the intent is
| + 129548 [eero.saynatk] I suppose not quite currying either--although it's a fair terming. I'm
| + 129561 [rampant@gm i] Reminds me of decorators[1] except applied to functions instead of
+ 129598 [matju@sy pa ] It is called "delayed evaluation". The pattern is that instead of having a

Re: What's the Ruby/OO name for this paradigm?
129448 [transfire@gm] to

[EVALUATION] - E01: The Java Failure - May Ruby Helps?
129451 [ilias@la ar ] A cooperation between Sun Microsystems and IBM&Co. in conjunction with
+ 129757 [ilias@la ar ] Can please some community member has the gentleness to give me an answer
| 129783 [gene.tani@gm] Hmm, much warmer reception than c.l.python
| + 129795 [snail@ob me ] gene.tani@gmail.com writes
| + 129852 [martindemell] To be fair, his evaluation form does look like it'd be a useful
+ 130693 [ilias@la ar ] Ruby is not what you are searching for. It is not capable to replace
| + 130712 [sroberts@un ] You have a project. You need to evaluate tools for your project. Other
| | 130783 [ilias@la ar ] Please do not disrupt the obious context.
| + 130749 [rampant@gm i] I don't really understand what your question is, so I can't help you.
|   130784 [ilias@la ar ] We are humans.
|   130785 [spoooq@gm il] From the link - "fictive technology collection". Ive worked on some of
|   130786 [spoooq@gm il] Some of it is possible. I have created persistent Ruby objects, for
|   + 130804 [ilias@la ar ] Yes, I would like to know if all this you have done is based on some
|   + 130823 [halostatue@g] For everything except persistent code (e.g., persistent object state),
|     + 130856 [ilias@la ar ] Can you name me a few, which would fulfill my stated requirements? [like
|     | + 130870 [martindemell] If what you're looking for is a full stack web framework, check Rails
|     | | 131380 [ilias@la ar ] ok
|     | + 130871 [halostatue@g] Your stated requirements are exceedingly vague, which makes it hard
|     |   + 130888 [    s@xs .d ] .... a very impressive 100-line who's who and what's what that I'll be
|     |   | 130895 [lyle.johnson] I was thinking the same thing (and not just because my name was
|     |   | 130914 [craig-duncan] I've seen the "maybe that should go on the wiki" response quite a few times.  My
|     |   | 130963 [lyle.johnson] I was going to explain my take on this, but by the time I got finished
|     |   | 130964 [bob.news@gm ] "Lyle Johnson" <lyle.johnson@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
|     |   | 131009 [craig-duncan] So, i guess the joke implies that there is no "known" way to make the valuable info
|     |   | 131019 [bob.news@gm ] "craig duncan" <craig-duncan@earthlink.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
|     |   + 131021 [ilias@la ar ] I simply need to produce software.
|     |     + 131025 [enebo@ac .o ] What Java bundles exist where you just download and start?  Especially
|     |     | 131031 [ilias@la ar ] One reason for leaving JAVA.
|     |     | 131036 [enebo@ac .o ] Fair enough.   As a follow up question...Have you found any technology
|     |     | 131039 [ilias@la ar ] not yet.
|     |     | + 131041 [wildwildwes@] This guy has been asking these sorts of questions on various
|     |     | | 131042 [ilias@la ar ] Mr. Moxam,
|     |     | | + 131047 [rasputnik@he] Yes, yes it is.
|     |     | | | 131048 [ilias@la ar ] no, it not the time.
|     |     | | | + 131051 [halostatue@g] Okay. I'm through.
|     |     | | | | + 131061 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (off-context comments)
|     |     | | | | | + 131062 [eero.saynatk] This may sound like a stupid idea, but since it seems that these tools
|     |     | | | | | | 131066 [ilias@la ar ] This is a very nice idea.
|     |     | | | | | | 131068 [joaopedrosa@] Could you write some free MDA tool for Ruby? I think we are missing one. :-)
|     |     | | | | | | + 131070 [eero.saynatk] The tools exist but you can't name them? J'accuse.
|     |     | | | | | | + 131073 [ilias@la ar ] I try to estimate the effort for implement something like an MDA tool.
|     |     | | | | | + 131072 [halostatue@g] Wrong. I did not increase the complexity; I addressed your ignorance.
|     |     | | | | |   131075 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (omitted reading)
|     |     | | | | |   131359 [curty@fr e. ] Have you considered upgrading?
|     |     | | | | |   131365 [snail@ob me ] <curty@free.fr> writes
|     |     | | | | |   131366 [steve.longdo] Would that be a Sinclair ZX-81 reference?
|     |     | | | | |   + 131375 [agorilla@gm ] That's the first thing I thought of too, so even if it's not...
|     |     | | | | |   + 131389 [snail@ob me ] <steve.longdo@gmail.com> writes
|     |     | | | | |     131405 [Stephan.Kaem] I can remember pretty well sitting (closely) in front of a TV set with a
|     |     | | | | |     131408 [snail@ob me ] <Stephan.Kaemper@Schleswig-Holstein.de> writes
|     |     | | | | |     131481 [spoooq@gm il] This is truly a superior troll. He started well, with a web-site that even
|     |     | | | | |     131585 [chneukirchen] Don't forget that he made you write a 12-line summary about him. :-)
|     |     | | | | + 131188 [chneukirchen] [snip wonderful stuff]
|     |     | | | + 131084 [snail@ob me ] <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes
|     |     | | |   131142 [rasputnik@he] I call troll, sorry for feeding.
|     |     | | + 131087 [snail@ob me ] <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes
|     |     | + 131053 [Tim.Ferrell@] What might also help ... you will be in a better position to ask good questions if you familiarize yourself with the language at hand first... yes, this
|     |     |   131065 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (process suggestions)
|     |     |   131086 [snail@ob me ] <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes
|     |     |   131100 [spoooq@gm il] This person is not asking for information. He is a successful troll.
|     |     + 131034 [halostatue@g] Right. But the production of software is something that is very
|     |       131040 [ilias@la ar ] of course.
|     |       131044 [halostatue@g] Then very few languages will do what you want, and they pretty much
|     |       + 131049 [ilias@la ar ] [...] - (increased complexity, lost context)
|     |       + 131205 [markus.pilze] Would you subsume an MDA-based model transformer and generator
|     |         + 131208 [markus.pilze] Oh yes, one thing left: you invest into a transformer.  At least yet,
|     |         + 131214 [halostatue@g] A "generic" model transformer and generator, yes. A framework,
|     |           131335 [markus.pilze] Agreed.  It only makes sense, if the transformer|generator framework
|     |           131367 [halostatue@g] I'm still highly skeptical. I don't doubt the value and efficiency
|     + 130864 [chneukirchen] Sometimes, I'd love Object#marshal_io=, to make it save everything
+ 131149 [zimba.tm@gm ] Easy.
| 131152 [snail@ob me ] "zimba.tm@gmail.com" <zimba.tm@gmail.com> writes
| + 131155 [ruby-lists@l] omg! blasphemy! a ruby user thats never wasted hours reading slashdot
| | 131202 [snail@ob me ] Slashdot - at times interesting, but the lack of insight in some of the
| | + 131203 [jamesUNDERBA] Handy though to read comments a +3 or higher just to see the (possibly)
| | | 131224 [snail@ob me ] <jamesUNDERBARb@neurogami.com> writes
| | + 131213 [glenn.parker] Pre-filtered SlashDot with S/N graphs: http://alterslash.org/
| + 131211 [chneukirchen] Just curious, how long have you been on the net?
|   131223 [snail@ob me ] Since July 1990. Why?
|   + 131225 [martindemell] That picture is a sort of bizarre rite of passage :) It even has its own
|   | 131226 [snail@ob me ] <martindemello@yahoo.com> writes
|   + 131237 [chneukirchen] 15 years on the net and no goatse. wow. :-)
|     131254 [snail@ob me ] <chneukirchen@gmail.com> writes
|     131378 [chneukirchen] That's probably needed to make the picture un-pornographic, but I
+ 131260 [eule@sp ce c] (In response to news:ctsjso$7v6$1@usenet.otenet.gr by Ilias Lazaridis)
| + 131261 [discordantus] Strangely, I had already been reminded of a story where a distributed
| + 131520 [matju@sy pa ] I think it's more along the lines of testing how long it takes for very
| + 131637 [ilias@la ar ] My main goals are those which i've announce.
+ 131379 [ilias@la ar ] I'm closing this thread.
  131382 [bg-rubytalk@] No, you're not.  It will live on forever.
  131399 [ilias@la ar ] You're right.
  131406 [snail@ob me ] <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes

RedCloth 3.0.2 -- Please, oh please, let this be the one
129452 [ruby-talk@wh] Okay, okay.  The tumblers are clicking, the clouds are parting.
+ 129520 [alex@ve k. n] Guess what did you forget to include in your announcement? :)
+ 129521 [alex@ve k. n] I'm sorry, but... still no go. But looks close.
| 129525 [tamc2@ca .a ] I've been wondering whether RedCloth is being stretched in too many
| 129538 [ruby-talk@wh] Yeah, totally.  But I think I just need more tests.
| 129553 [alex@ve k. n] Just one of them - and that one doesn't work with RedCloth 2.0.11, either.
+ 129533 [Bil.Kleb@NA ] Confirmed on my end: I just refreshed http://fun3d.larc.nasa.gov
  129540 [ruby-talk@wh] Oh, come on.  You're dangling free code out there??  Seriously, Bill.
  129581 [Bil.Kleb@NA ] (delivered 3.0.2 to_LaTeX tests + hack offline)
  129582 [tobias.luetk] Can't wait for this. I have been meaning to hack this myself for
  129587 [vanweerd@gm ] I'm curious- I keep hearing about LaTex -> PDF, but never
  + 129588 [Bil.Kleb@NA ] I don't understand the later and I need math typesetting.
  | 129634 [bdarcus@gm i] This is one of those semi-religious issues.
  + 129609 [dblack@wo bl] I've done some work, along those lines, on a Redcloth -> DocBook
    129635 [bdarcus@gm i] 1)  Support v4.4 of the DTD (just released). It adds a new
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