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500 internal error on apache
121918 [coke2k5@gm i] I came across Ruby about 33 hours and decided to take it up.I have
+ 121919 [hgs@dm .a .u] I think you'll need to tell us what you did to achieve that.  There
+ 121940 [neil@ha ub .] Check your Apache error log after seeing the 500 error to see what's wrong
  121947 [coke2k5@gm i] I'm very new to cgi and have no background of programming other than a
  + 121960 [clr4.10.rand] You also might find prettyexception useful. I think it is a great tool
  + 121979 [nick@ac iv h] Since you mention being new to cgi, and have doning some php, I'm
    121981 [coke2k5@gm i] Very helpfull, thanks
    121991 [nick@ac iv h] Glad to help.

openssl engine driving me nuts!
121924 [comp.lang.ru] _ Ever since the engine stuff was added to the openssl module
121963 [rcoder@gm il] Are both versions of OpenSSL in the same prefix, (/usr by default in
121967 [comp.lang.ru] _ The "custom" version is in /usr/local, the RH one in /usr. I

Optional static typing (or, What can Ruby 2.0 borrow from Boo?)
121936 [djberg96@ho ] I was just looking at http://boo.codehaus.org/BooManifesto.pdf.  One
+ 121937 [mailing-list] Finally, a thread on static versus dynamic typing in Ruby!
| 121964 [ptkwt@ar cn ] Oh no, not another one.
| + 121968 [mailing-list] (This was actually proposed a while ago, but we have been unable to find
| | + 121973 [ptkwt@ar cn ] Why not have Why_the_lucky_stiff draw us one?  The guy's got talent.
| | + 121974 [emschwar@fc ] There are tons of them on <URL:http://www.morguefile.com/>.  I
| |   122017 [mailing-list] I think that a rubber duck was what was wanted,
| + 121990 [nick@ac iv h] Hey- it also has good synergy with the penguin thing.
+ 121938 [dga@lc .m t.] "Optional typing
| 122001 [mailinglists] No. Can you please give me the slide number of the slide that has
| 122082 [dga@lc .m t.] You clipped my comment below that line that said "though he doesn't
+ 121952 [rff_rff@re o] IIUC in boo is the contrary. It has optional duck typing, but it is
| 121953 [dblack@wo bl] They would have to be, because is_a? doesn't tell you about the
| 121957 [rff_rff@re o] I guess the type theorist out there would not agree (i.e. I'm told is
| + 121961 [dblack@wo bl] But I'm talking specifically about Ruby, not theorizing about type in
| + 122000 [mailinglists] so why not add simply "assert_type" statements. Thats what python is
|   122004 [rff_rff@re o] some python frameworks are doing it (zope, twisted, peak, actually most
|   122005 [mailinglists] I must say that i don't like it because it mixes again runtime and
|   + 122014 [dblack@wo bl] If you're going to write this, or propose it as an RCR, it would be
|   + 122094 [rff_rff@re o] I understand what you mean. But given that compile time/runtime would be
+ 121959 [flgr@cc n. e] I agree that optional static typing is a nice thing to have, if only for

profile
121943 [joe.vandyk@b] Still pretty new to Ruby and profiling.  Are there any tools I can use to
+ 121944 [zdennis@mk e] zach
| 121945 [todd.bradley] Chapter 13 of PickAxe II has a good tutorial on Ruby benchmarking and
+ 121948 [ruby@br an s] ruby -rprofile -e'puts (1..200).inject(0) { | r, i | r + (-1)**i  *  1.0 / i }'
| 122003 [bob.news@gm ] "Brian Schr?der" <ruby@brian-schroeder.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
+ 121950 [joe.vandyk@b] I found the '-r profile' option.  Are there any better tools out there?
  + 121958 [flgr@cc n. e] What new features would they provide?
  + 122248 [jonas.arvids] I felt the need for something that pinpoints which lines in

singleton methods : when are they not permitted?
121949 [itsme213@ho ] irb(main):025:0> x = :any
+ 121956 [flgr@cc n. e] Singleton methods can not be defined for "immediate" Objects. Immediate
| + 121970 [sera@fh an .] Errrr. So what's the difference between
| | + 121971 [dblack@wo bl] I think the difference is that (("x")) causes the expression inside
| | | 121985 [jim@fr ez .o] My confusion is that I don't see the value in this.
| | + 121975 [chr_mail@gm ] Pardon my igmorance but what is a literal?
| |   121977 [dblack@wo bl] a = "x"
| |   122002 [bob.news@gm ] "David A. Black" <dblack@wobblini.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| |   122034 [itsme213@ho ] I'm sure I am missing something.
| |   122036 [bob.news@gm ] "itsme213" <itsme213@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| |   122061 [itsme213@ho ] Ah. Subtle. Thanks (assuming I've got it!). Would this re-phrasing be the
| |   122149 [bob.news@gm ] "itsme213" <itsme213@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| |   122157 [ruby@br an s] That regexps are always the same surprised me also, but it is nice. So it is
| |   122160 [bob.news@gm ] "Brian Schr?der" <ruby@brian-schroeder.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| |   122165 [ruby@br an s] Interesting, but what is the use case for this? It seems to be quite dangerous
| |   122170 [bob.news@gm ] "Brian Schr?der" <ruby@brian-schroeder.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| |   122175 [flgr@cc n. e] Is Perl inheritance something to be ashamed of nowadays?
| |   122192 [bob.news@gm ] "Florian Gross" <flgr@ccan.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| + 121978 [chr_mail@gm ] (Miss)Applying syllogistic logic you can add singleton methods
+ 121972 [chr_mail@gm ] Yes you can't define singleton methods for Fixnums either - originally

Make test-all vs Rubicon
121969 [comp.lang.ru] _ Is anyone collecting "make test-all" results?
121996 [rff_rff@re o] rubycon was the name of a test suite for ruby wich was external to the
122081 [headius@gm i] Rubicon is now the RubyTests project in Rubyforge, and it's under
122090 [rff_rff@re o] thanks for the precisation

SOT gmail invites
121980 [lyndon.samso] X % of the people of this list appear to be using GoogleMail, where X
+ 122018 [intinig@gm i] I also have some invites if anyone needs them
| 122022 [mailinglists] Can i have one please.
+ 122025 [zdennis@mk e] I'll take an invite. I'm a really nice person in case it matters. =)
| 122026 [robert.mcgov] I've responded to Zach. I assume some has already for Lothar?
| 122040 [ruby-lists@l] i've got 6 left over also for what its worth :P
+ 122030 [eule@sp ce c] Just out of curiosity, can you invite me in too ? Looks like this is
+ 122046 [kbullock@ri ] % irb --prompt simple
| + 122047 [hal9000@hy e] Convert it to an unsigned 32-bit value.  ;)
| + 122059 [kbullock@ri ] Hehehe. Been reading _A_Brief_History_Of_Time_ lately? :)
|   122064 [hal9000@hy e] Haha... as long as we're OT, there is an old poem to that effect. :)
+ 122062 [szich@cl ar ] May I please have one.
| 122063 [robert.mcgov] Done
| 122065 [snowzone5@ho] i've got 3 left...
| 122066 [pate@gn .o g] I'd take one,
| 122072 [snowzone5@ho] sent...and that was my last one folks...
| 122073 [discordantus] I've got a few left. Email me privately if you want one.
| 122075 [ummaycoc@gm ] I've got some, too...
| 122112 [lyndon.samso] Ok, who missed out, I've got a couple left.
| + 122120 [jamis_buck@b] Ok, I just can't stand it anymore. I'm not necessarily interested in an
| | + 122121 [halostatue@g] I find that it's the best interface that I've had for reading
| | | 122216 [snowzone5@ho] and because google is scanning your email (that's a gotcha that hasn't
| | | 122223 [discordantus] Hmmm? afaik, they are only scanning it to provide targeted ads and
| | | + 122230 [intinig@gm i] Ok I spent all of my invites :)
| | | + 122272 [snowzone5@ho] "afaik" too, that's all their doing...i'm sure none of the results
| | + 122124 [jamesUNDERBA] Well, first off, I want to be, like, cool.  So I finally got an invite
| | + 122125 [coke2k5@gm i] 1gig of space.
| | + 122240 [    s@xs .d ] My personal take is that they just wanted to make sure that
| |   + 122246 [jamis_buck@b] Phew. Okay. For a minute there I thought I must be the only one
| |   | + 122254 [carlwork@yc ] One of the most innovative things that Gmail does is organize your
| |   | | + 122255 [carlwork@yc ] for 10 messages about a single topic..."
| |   | | + 122258 [carlwork@yc ] Some more clarification.  All the threaded views in email clients that
| |   | | | 122426 [hramrach@ce ] They probably learned from mutt here :)
| |   | | + 122259 [billk@ct .c ] Man I hope not.  I've never seen Gmail, I've been thinking
| |   | | | + 122263 [zdennis@mk e] I'd like to patent that the color black goes with anything. I'd also
| |   | | | | 122267 [coke2k5@gm i] Please change the first and last name from coke coke (my handle) to your own.
| |   | | | | 122268 [coke2k5@gm i] Sorry, I just now checked them they're expired.
| |   | | | + 122274 [snowzone5@ho] i would be upset if eddie got that particular patent...he certainly
| |   | | | | 122281 [billk@ct .c ] Sorry I wasn't expressing myself very clearly.  I didn't mean
| |   | | | + 122283 [gsinclair@so] In building software, though, turning ideas into profit is an
| |   | | |   + 122285 [gsinclair@so] vague
| |   | | |   + 122297 [billk@ct .c ] Turning ideas into profit focuses on where the real
| |   | | |     + 122307 [rubytalk@gm ] I have 6 at this account  email me with the subject Gmail invite
| |   | | |     | 122784 [gaffar11lk@y] my mail adress is funny_heart2004@yahoo.com
| |   | | |     + 122329 [ecmbixps@se ] ...
| |   | | + 122278 [    s@xs .d ] Mutt has a feature (on key T IIRC) where it can hide quotations
| |   | | + 122397 [hans@fu al n] gmail's conversation approach _is_ different. But the idea of collapsing
| |   | |   + 122400 [carlwork@yc ] Even if you collapse the threads, in the actual thread you're viewing,
| |   | |   | 122427 [hans@fu al n] Ah, well can tell you're not a mutt user. You're apparently comparing
| |   | |   | 122430 [carlwork@yc ] Yep, I was actually thinking about Thunderbird.  I still haven't made
| |   | |   | 122431 [jamis_buck@b] For what it's worth, I tried mutt, once. I ran, screaming.
| |   | |   | + 122432 [afabian@au t] My .muttrc is about 5k long.  I'd suggest you just start using it, and
| |   | |   | | + 122448 [snowzone5@ho] sound like mine...i have my mutt interface looking pretty much like my
| |   | |   | | + 122668 [hramrach@ce ] Sure, mutt is very configureble and has many nice features. And I am
| |   | |   | |   + 122686 [vanweerd@gm ] The speed is great. They make good use of dynamic html, and by
| |   | |   | |   + 122747 [    s@xs .d ] When I encounter a "new" windows box, I usually do the
| |   | |   | |     122843 [rff_rff@re o] funny this is what I did for a lot of time too, both installing
| |   | |   | |     122858 [vanweerd@gm ] winscp2.  I just looked it up. Sweet! I need that.
| |   | |   | |     122860 [brothermarcu] and very slowly starting up with pickaxe (2nd ver) book.
| |   | |   | |     122876 [cinthia_hobb] Cinthia_hobbies@yahoo.com
| |   | |   | + 122433 [lists@ha ff ] =20
| |   | |   | | + 122438 [carlwork@yc ] I'm sure you were being a little facetious, but I find it hard to
| |   | |   | | | 122443 [lists@ha ff ] =20
| |   | |   | | + 122487 [rasputnik@he] I thought vim was the vim of editors?
| |   | |   | + 122452 [aengstrom@gn] =20
| |   | |   |   122479 [jamis_buck@b] Yah, that's what I remember reading. But why should I bother
| |   | |   + 122415 [ehames@gm il] Quotations can be used to bring up the context, but they are certainly
| |   | |     122418 [logancapaldo] I have invites too, just email me off list (So I don't start sending
| |   | |     122535 [snowzone5@ho] ...
| |   | |     122566 [vanweerd@gm ] I just my mailing lists over yesterday, and gmail rocks. I'm off
| |   | + 122273 [snowzone5@ho] on the other hand, those of us living on the bleeding edge NEEDED a
| |   + 122287 [discordantus] Only for a few levels, I think. otherwise, theya re doing some smart
| + 122130 [daniel@ni ht] I have ~80 left if some people missed out.  Message me privately if you
|   + 122153 [mhanisch@mh ] Daniel,
|   | + 122770 [wassabi@so n] I was just wondering if i could have one of the invites.
|   | + 122771 [wassabi@so n] I was just wondering if i could have one of the invites.
|   | + 122772 [wassabi@so n] I was just wondering if i could have one of the invites.
|   | + 122773 [wassabi@so n] I was just wondering if i could have one of the invites.
|   | | 122873 [rbgill@th gr] Not a chance
|   | + 122915 [alexkellysmi] may  i have one? my email is alexkellysmith@yahoo.com
|   | | 122954 [brothermarcu] sent.
|   | + 122997 [ryan444123@h] i would like some gmail plz ryan444123@hotmail.com
|   | | 123002 [brothermarcu] Sent...:)
|   | + 123033 [soyoman@co c] Hey, u still have any of those invites left???
|   | + 123051 [gbinas-o@lo ] me too. if there's one available
|   + 122238 [dschaeffer44] If you have any invites left I would like one.  I did try to E-mail you
|   + 123052 [wael_hack@ho] May i have one ..
+ 122827 [elvstone@gm ] I have 6 invites, e-mail private if you want one.

[ANN] Toronto Ruby User Group meeting 2004 12 05
121982 [mike@ra do .] See http://trug.stok.co.uk/wiki/ for more information.

problem with rails
121984 [mark@ic ac e] I'm having some problems connecting rails to my mysql 4.1.1-alpha db. The
121986 [jamesUNDERBA] I had the same issue, and there is a way to tell MySQL to use a
121989 [mark@ic ac e] Thanks!

Timezone Adjustment?
121987 [lon@sp ed ma] I am new to Ruby and am hitting a wall when it comes to "displaying"
121992 [zunda616e@ya] t = Time.now
121998 [bob.news@gm ] "zunda" <zunda616e@yahoo.co.jp> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
122033 [lon@sp ed ma] Thanks for the suggestions and here is what I had come up with.

[BUG] Wrong path in gem with one Click installer
121993 [guslist@fr e] I installed the latest one Click installer for Windows (182-14RC10)

rails won't go
121994 [ilveroluca@n] I'm trying out the rails tutorial (http://www.rubyonrails.org/show/Tutorial).
122011 [david@lo dt ] Sounds like 1.8.2 change the API for CGI::Session:Class. Rails is

Hobix: Modifying sidebar
121997 [ptkwt@ar cn ] Sorry for posting a Hobix question here, but the Hobix email list doesn't
122147 [ruby-talk@wh] What do you mean exactly by 'entry'?  The 'sidebar_contacts' is, yes, a
122214 [ptkwt@ar cn ] Yep. Sorry for the ambiguity.  I mean new entry in the list.

RiDisplay interface in ri
122007 [ gv@cs uu nl] In Ruby 1.8.0 I used to have a web interface to ri (local webserver)
122020 [dave@pr gp o] Now that ri and rdoc are integrated, could you just rdoc your source
122078 [ gv@cs uu nl] As a matter of fact I did so yesterday with exactly that purpose [rdoc

Improvements to the profiler [Was Re: profile]
122013 [ruby@br an s] Something I'm missing is to exclude certain statements and distinguish between
+ 122016 [bob.news@gm ] "Brian Schr?der" <ruby@brian-schroeder.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| + 122021 [mailinglists] Even at the moment the profiler is at a proof of concept level and absolute
| | + 122023 [bob.news@gm ] "Lothar Scholz" <mailinglists@scriptolutions.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| | | 122043 [cmills@fr es] A little while back I told someone who was looking to speed up a Ruby
| | | 122048 [bob.news@gm ] "Charles Mills" <cmills@freeshell.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| | | 122051 [mneumann@nt ] Or just use 'benchmark' (sorry, I've currently no Ruby reference here,
| | | 122055 [cmills@fr es] I think benchmarking (and testing) are good way to make sure your
| | + 122032 [jamis_buck@b] Are you going to leave us in suspense, then, or are you going to tell us
| |   122038 [snail@ob me ] writes
| |   122042 [jamis_buck@b] Clever, but I was looking for just the profiler, not the IDE. I was
| |   + 122080 [rff_rff@re o] IIRC there was a patch to ruby on the site from arachno ruby aimed at
| |   | 122087 [mailinglists] No profiling available at the moment. The idea is simple: just record
| |   + 122162 [snail@ob me ] writes
| + 122029 [djberg96@ho ] There's RbProf (from AspectR), though I don't know what it's status is these days.
+ 122060 [glenn.parker] In Quantify, my profiler of choice from the C/C++ world (now part of

Multi-Agent system in Ruby?
122024 [martin.anker] written in Java), and while multi-agent systems are pretty cool, it is
122056 [curne@cu no ] If I read the wikipedia
122057 [cmills@fr es] If you google "multi agent system ruby" you'll probably find a few

List of ruby extensions/libraries
122028 [sarahtanemba] I was wondering if there is a command or a little script in Ruby to list

object_hexid incorrect
122031 [transami@ru ] Can anyone help me understand why these are not the same, and how to fix?
+ 122035 [decoux@mo lo] uln% ruby -e 'p "%x" % (2*0x2019abb2)'
+ 122037 [Ruben.Vandeg] Did you notice that (0x40335764 >> 1) == 0x2019abb2  ?

Unsigned manipulation [was Re: SOT gmail invites]
122052 [kbullock@ri ] (*ponders how to do this in Ruby*)
122245 [slumos@un v.] where X

[ANN] Lafcadio 0.5.2, 0.4.3
122068 [sera@fh an .] I've just dropped the next development release of Lafcadio, 0.5.2.

Rails with webrick slow as snails
122069 [sarahtanemba] I've followed the sample installation
122071 [david@lo dt ] What kind of hardware are you running on? 4 minutes sound insane in any
122083 [sarahtanemba] but not much. It takes at least 3 minutes for the sample page to come up
+ 122084 [david@lo dt ] Something is obviously broken in your setup. Your machine should be
+ 122088 [mailinglists] Do you have the Windows SP2 firewall enabled ? I also got a 20 sec
  + 122093 [sarahtanemba] Dear David & Lothar, I did try using the Webrick's Hello servlet sample
  + 122099 [sarahtanemba] Below are the log from the console of '%> ruby dispatch.servlet -a'
    + 122100 [tobias.luetk] under windows it seems to be very important to use rubyw.exe and not
    | 122101 [carlwork@yc ] case, does the ruby installer for Windows associate .rb files with
    | + 122104 [mailinglists] rubyw.exe is faster if you don't need standart output, because everything
    | | + 122105 [ryco@gm .n t] I agree with Lothar.
    | | + 122106 [carlwork@yc ] Okay.  I didn't realize there was this difference.  Thanks
    | + 122107 [curt@hi bs c] I'm running webrick with ruby.exe without any slowdown problem.
    + 122127 [nick@ac iv h] I see a X: drive in your log. Are you running the ruby and rails files
      122134 [sarahtanemba] Nope! I have a disks and a few partitions. All in one machine.
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