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irb problems on one-click windows installer
119006 [Robert.Feldt] I have a couple of students that use Ruby in a course and they've run
+ 119007 [curt@hi bs c] Are you using a non-english keyboard? If so, I know there are issues here
| 119008 [ryco@gm .n t] ...
| 119010 [Robert.Feldt] Thanks to both of you.
| 119014 [ryco@gm .n t] If they are using the latest One-Click-Installer, the instructions given
| 119023 [rff_rff@re o] agreed, they work for me, even if from time to time I end up typing some
+ 119013 [Stephan.Kaem] That was discussed here
+ 119020 [flgr@cc n. e] Another problem is that Ctrl-Left/Right don't do word-wise cursor
  119024 [rff_rff@re o] I strongly agree, FWIW.
  119034 [curt@hi bs c] I'm adding this to my to-do list.

Toronto Ruby User Group meeting 7 Nov 2004
119009 [mike@ra do .] Sorry for the late notice.  The Toronto Ruby User Group is having

Brian Schroeders chat example on windows
119011 [Robert.Feldt] Has anyone been able to run the chat example from Brian Schroeders "A
119097 [ruby@br an s] nice to hear, that you are using the course. In my course there was one person with a windows system, and his problem was, that the console only drew the received text, when he hit return. So not usable as a chat client. cmd seems to cache printed text while it is reading with gets.
119144 [rff_rff@re o] isn't this an example of the know threading issues on windows?
+ 119185 [feldt@ce ch ] Yep, that's it. Thanks to both of you for your answer.
+ 119187 [discordantus] This may be a dumb question, but if it's blocking IO that's the

Re: SyncEnumerator
119018 [flgr@cc n. e] I wonder how an implementation using .zip with a block would compare? Or
119300 [discordantus] Hmm... I don't have the OP's message in my archives...
119303 [tom@in oe he] That'll send an email of the patch summary and description to ruby-core
119382 [ggg@se 1. et] charset="iso-8859-1"
119399 [matz@ru y- a] If you think the change is to fix the bug (i.e. difference from the
119424 [rff_rff@re o] n to RCR. :-/
119436 [matz@ru y- a] I thing making something faster without changing behavior would do

[SUMMARY] Sokoban (#5)
119025 [james@gr yp ] Well, how far did you get?  I'm stuck on level 28 myself.
+ 119027 [flgr@cc n. e] It depends. Linux support is there in case you have Ruby compiled with
| 119047 [james@gr yp ] Sorry, should have specified.  My platform is Mac OS X.
+ 119029 [burtdav@ho m] "Ruby Quiz" <james@grayproductions.net>...
| 119049 [james@gr yp ] This is probably better for controlling it programatically too.
| 119162 [burtdav@ho m] This is the second time this has been told to me. I think I will, you know.
| 119163 [james@gr yp ] Just don't forget to share when you're done!
+ 119203 [dennis.ranke] Speaking for myself, I decided to try to write the most simple solution

[RDOC] patch for vararg require
119031 [jgb3@em il b] ...
119037 [dave@pr gp o] Thanks for the patch. However, I believe that the latest CVS RDoc's
119041 [jgb3@em il b] Good to know. Thanks, Dave!

[OT - debian/ruby] [WAS] Re: rails: gem install rails is bombing
119035 [Ara.T.Howard] i'm thinking of switching to debian but am kind of a tar.gz kind of package
+ 119040 [jgb3@em il b] If tar.gz's are your thing, Ara, you might enjoy Gentoo
| 119052 [Ara.T.Howard] you are the second person to mention gentoo this week - i'll check it out.
| 119068 [tobias.luetk] Consider me the thrid, gentoo would be the right choice.
| 119070 [jason.sweat@] I dearly love Gentoo as a distro, but I did have one issue with the
| 119073 [jgb3@em il b] Jason,
| 119080 [jason.sweat@] Here is what my "ri Array" command returns, is that more or less than
| 119083 [jgb3@em il b] That is the minimum that I expected. (It's what ri used to return until
+ 119056 [jim@we ri hh] I use Debian for my major Ruby development.  I like the platform,

[ANN] Needle 1.0.0
119038 [jgb3@em il b] Needle is a dependency injection (a.k.a. "inversion of control")
+ 119055 [ gm@na el gr] Congratulations and thank you very much :)
+ 119505 [jason@jv eg ] What is the relationship (if any) between Copland and Needle?  Is Needle
  119508 [jgb3@em il b] Copland and Needle are two independent projects. They are unrelated
  + 119511 [mailing-list] Yeah.  When I saw Copland, I thought that it seemed a bit much to do
  + 119515 [jamesUNDERBA] Are both under active development?
    119516 [jgb3@em il b] Please, I'm only one man, James! :)
    + 119519 [jamesUNDERBA] But legend has it you have the strength of 10 men.
    + 119590 [jason@jv eg ] Thanks for the explanation re: Needle and Copland in your previous mail.
      119643 [mailing-list] Exactly why should a user be forced to mess around with configuration

Re: completing the puzzle
119050 [listen@ma cr] dear list,
119051 [listen@ma cr] Indeed, I am: that was to be proven. I meant "dumb" of course.

class variable and singleton
119057 [mkhan@le tr ] class Foo1
+ 119058 [jgb3@em il b] It is difficult (though not impossible) to do initialization code on a
+ 119078 [dblack@wo bl] Do you mean 'value' rather than 'data'?

Will ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
119059 [jd@no pa .c ] Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
+ 119061 [jgb3@em il b] I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid
| + 119065 [Ara.T.Howard] sure it does - it's called mysql.  ;-)
| + 119071 [jd@no pa .c ] Do you know if sqlite 3.x will be supported soon?  I just guessing you'd
| | 119072 [jgb3@em il b] SQLite3 support is on my TODO list, but I'm waiting for sqlite3 to
| | 119077 [Ara.T.Howard] what you need is some more projects ;-)
| | 119079 [jgb3@em il b] lol :) no kidding. I'm quite motivated to get Net::SSH stabilized,
| | 119081 [jgb3@em il b] Gah! I don't even have time to finish my sentences! :) What I *meant* to
| | 119087 [Ara.T.Howard] obviously to manage the terrific influx of paypal donations right?
| + 119145 [rff_rff@re o] well, anyway I think an ActiveRecord-like api is possible.
+ 119173 [david@lo dt ] The plan is that I'm open to contributions :)
  119232 [jgb3@em il b] Keep in mind, though, that much of the functionality that AR::Base adds
  119237 [david@lo dt ] Active Record's niche is the close relationship with SQL. I see that as

gems rdoc failure with Rails
119060 [itsme213@ho ] Ruby 1.8.2, gem 0.8.1 with update, on Win xp
119127 [chadfowler@g] #{gempath}\doc\rails-0.8.0
119172 [itsme213@ho ] documentation.
119174 [itsme213@ho ] twice
119284 [chadfowler@g] This warning isn't anything to worry about (in fact, we're going to

Any generic object browser
119063 [itsme213@ho ] Is there any generic object browser that will let me interactively browse a
+ 119090 [mneumann@nt ] I just ported the ObjectSpaceBrowser example from Borges to Wee and
| 119103 [itsme213@ho ] If there is a way to point it at some starting object(s) and browse through
+ 119139 [ jimm@io co ] Sounds like a great Ruby Quiz.
  119142 [james@gr yp ] I agree and I haven't seen your submission yet Jim, so...  ;)
  119207 [ jimm@io co ] It's on its way.
  119307 [itsme213@ho ] Some great ideas at http://www.wiresong.ca/OmniBrowser/ :-)

Re: Debugger breakpoints work?
119066 [todd.bradley] OK, so since nobody has spoken up otherwise, let's call
+ 119074 [curt@hi bs c] Curt
+ 119075 [duncan@ny ap] What Todd is suggesting, i think, is that the (relatively) minor problem
  119082 [todd.bradley] Correct.  I filed this as a bug at
  119085 [tom@in oe he] Yup, me and Rich Kilmer admin it.

Ruby/TK Question
119067 [Greg.Kujawa@] I am new to Ruby and trying to create a basic application using Tk.
+ 119086 [michael.deha] I'd consider hiding the root window after the input is provided, so
+ 119135 [nagai@ai ky ] I recommend you to define a binding to the listbox for more

what's the latest on JAXB-like functionality for Ruby?
119076 [todd.bradley] I found a couple references to a Ruby JAXB, most notably

[ANN] dirwatch-0.0.6
119088 [Ara.T.Howard] URLS

Re: [OT] US Presidential Election
119092 [app1tam@up .] Sorry, but I have no respect for the man.  The office, yes. The man, no.
119094 [jgb3@em il b] Why in the world would you pray for that? Yes, I can tell you despise
119096 [msparshatt@y] I think he meant he hopes that Bush won't be effective in continuing to
119098 [Greg.Kujawa@] This is bitter take. As an American I don't wish for an ineffective 4 years
+ 119099 [bg-rubytalk@] I'm sorry to add another off-topic post to this list, but I can't let
| + 119100 [app1tam@up .] Exactly.
| + 119102 [zdennis@mk e] I had never seen any factual evidence or proof saying this was the case,
|   + 119107 [james@gr yp ] "off-list" being the key term there.
|   | 119130 [batkins57@gm] +1, I'm tired of sifting through political posts to read ruby-talk.
|   + 119110 [corey_s@qw s] "Man must not check reason by tradition, but contrawise, must check
+ 119101 [enebo@ac .o ] Well, I do not know if I believe the 'about the oil theory' or not, but
| 119109 [corey_s@qw s] With all due respect, the above reasoning for the suspension of critical
+ 119104 [jos@ca no k.] I can't let this slide either. The oil is just a means to an end. The end is
| 119106 [todd.bradley] Do you have any friends who were active duty
+ 119112 [mailinglists] Why do you think that cheap oil prices are important for Bush ?

FastCGI parameters (get and post)
119111 [jd@no pa .c ] How do I retrieve form parameters with FCGI in a way that works for both
119114 [ksibilev@be ] GET parameters you have to parse from ENV['QUERY_STRING'].
119117 [jd@no pa .c ] I see. So I guess, I'd have to do a $stdin = req.in and manually parse
119176 [patrick@he a] You might be able to hack something from bits of Narf.  The parsing
119208 [moonwolf@mo ] Nora supports CGI/mod_ruby/FastCGI.
+ 119211 [ksibilev@be ] Hm, download link goes to nowhere.
| 119257 [moonwolf@mo ] thanx
+ 119275 [patrick@he a] We should figure out a way to work together.
  119289 [rff_rff@re o] funny how things are the same in every place.. Did ruby web devs ever
  119357 [patrick@he a] The actual interface layer between different engines is a small amount
  119358 [Ara.T.Howard] i thought i was the only one still using amrita!  development seems to have
  + 119367 [naseby@gm il] I still dig Amrita. So do the developer(s) of Cerise
  + 119427 [cameron.mcbr] I agree.  I keep my eyes open, but amrita is just so ... clean.
  + 119480 [rubyzbibd@ub] It appears that Amrita has new maintainers and that the site has moved
    + 119498 [Ara.T.Howard] cool - thanks for the pointer - i'd missed that.
    | 119565 [rubyzbibd@ub] I am make use of CSS and do not have any problems, of course I have
    + 119522 [aredridel@gm] Give XTemplate a spin -- with a little work to emulate hashes in your
      119566 [rubyzbibd@ub] XTemplate seems pretty close to Amrita, but I really do not want to
      120144 [aredridel@gm] A fair bit, since it can use an XML parser. Not an order of magnitude,
      120160 [transami@ru ] I've often heard Amrita is great but slow. I wonder if anyone is up to
      120161 [tksano@m3 kc] Actually, the author did it. The author of Amrita released an

Receiving blocks in Proc?
119113 [james.cromwe] p = Proc.new { |*args,&block| }
+ 119116 [matz@ru y- a] Until 1.9, yes.
| 119120 [discordantus] Will it eventually be possible to pass the block when using the
| 119137 [matz@ru y- a] I have no plan to allow this.  I have alternative idea, which allows
| 119146 [rff_rff@re o] (on the notes from James Brown)
| 120007 [nobu.nokada@] I tried it but it breaks many code.
| 120019 [nobu.nokada@] Well, it did just those things, IIRC.  Yes, "many" was not
| 120026 [rff_rff@re o] sorry if I'm asking a stupid question, I know I am dumb.. but would'nt
| 120041 [nobu.nokada@] Yes, my patch implemented as you mentioned.  But, for instance,
+ 119118 [discordantus] Not in 1.8. 1.9 has it; it's slated for 2.0, I believe...

Still use 'ruby-bugs' for Ruby bugs?
119115 [ jupp@gm .d ] I am presently rewriting the German edition of the c.l.r FAQ using the
119119 [flgr@cc n. e] I'm not sure if the above is still valid, but as far as I know the
119122 [tom@in oe he] Right on.  Also, when you file a bug or patch on the RubyForge project,

[ANN] lockfile-1.2.0
119121 [Ara.T.Howard] URLS

How to enumerate nested classes
119123 [cyclists@nc ] module Foo
119129 [vjoel@PA H. ] module Foo
119136 [cyclists@nc ] Excellent! Not only did this pretty much work right out of the box, I found

[ANN] SQLite/Ruby 2.2.1
119131 [jgb3@em il b] Nothing to get excited about, really, Just announcing a bug-fix release.

recursive brace matching with Ruby regexp
119132 [jason.sweat@] I wanted to learn Ruby, so I picked a small task of trying to write a
+ 119138 [james@gr yp ] Ruby's regex engine doesn't yet support this, but will in future
| 119147 [billk@ct .c ] Just for fun,
| 119155 [jason.sweat@] Thanks Bill,
+ 119149 [discordantus] Regular expressions, by all standard definitions, aren't recursive.
  + 119161 [james@gr yp ] Of course, you are correct.  However, recursive "Regular Expressions"
  | + 119167 [discordantus] Are you saying Oniguruma *will* support it, or *does* support it? It
  | | 119169 [james@gr yp ] Sure does.
  | | 119175 [discordantus] Indeed it does! I just tried it out. And named subexpressions work too
  | | + 119188 [jos@ca no k.] A-1. Syntax depend options
  | | + 119217 [jason.sweat@] Great!!  Just comiled ruby from cvs (ruby 1.9.0 (2004-11-04)
  | + 119194 [eeklund@gm i] Yes.
  |   + 119221 [james@gr yp ] Okay Eivind, what would you prefer we call Regular Expression from now
  |   | + 119229 [ummaycoc@gm ] Ruby Automata?  Irregular Expressions?  Irregardless Expressions?
  |   | | 119241 [rff_rff@re o] pattern matching :)
  |   | + 119230 [Ara.T.Howard] but both of those recognize only regular languages (those one can describe
  |   | + 119344 [ruby-talk@pc] Call them regular expressions and stop using them for context-free
  |   + 119343 [ruby-talk@pc] Well, that's not quite true.  They compile to NFAs that are linear in
  + 119197 [rff_rff@re o] I wonder if someone ever looked at the ABNF module on raa. It is a tool

Ruby on uClinux
119133 [kapheine@gm ] Has anyone tried running ruby on uClinux?  I have access to a
119143 [stoyan@gm il] Working here uCrux-2.0.1, ruby 1.8.1,  rubygems-0.8.1. rails-0.8.0 also is OK.

Cleaner way to do this?
119134 [Harry_Ohlsen] One of my colleagues asked me last night how he could do some processing
+ 119140 [nightphotos@] How about
| 119141 [Harry_Ohlsen] That's what I initially suggested :-).
| + 119160 [zdennis@mk e] If your friend knows the processing he wants to do on the first element,
| | + 119164 [Harry_Ohlsen] element, why not just keep it simple...
| | | + 119195 [B.Candler@po] A generic solution, which works on anything enumerable (such as lines of a
| | | + 119206 [discordantus] [1,2,3,4].do_first{|n| print n}.then_rest{|n| print ", ",n}
| | |   119218 [dblack@wo bl] Hmmmm.... it's a bit of a stretch to "get" that the first call is
| | |   119285 [discordantus] I'm not claiming this is good code - I know it's not. But it was fun
| | + 119170 [zdennis@mk e] "C:\ruby\bin\ruby.exe" -d harry_ohlsen.rb
| + 119212 [listen@ma cr] how about this?
|   + 119215 [listen@ma cr] or even
|   | 119219 [dblack@wo bl] See the very first post in this thread :-)
|   + 119220 [listen@ma cr] now I saw the initial post :)
+ 119151 [Ara.T.Howard] 1048576
  119159 [Harry_Ohlsen] Thanks Ara!  That was an excellent explanation/demonstration.  I'll pass

Ruby 1.4.6 - trouble with require path
119148 [primehalo@ho] I inherited a project that uses Ruby 1.4.6 on a RedHat Linux 6.1J. I
+ 119153 [Ara.T.Howard] i can't help you at all, but i'm dying to know: what project have you
| 119154 [dross@co e- ] heh, I'm suprised they kept that many scripts without adjusting to other
| 119329 [primehalo@ho] Can't go into details, but it's a project from Japan that was finished
+ 119184 [drbrain@se m] While I believe you, I don't see how ruby can see from /testing into
  + 119196 [B.Candler@po] If you go to the list archive at
  + 119330 [primehalo@ho] Well, "setenv RUBYLIB /scripts" was the right solution. I don't quite
    119333 [drbrain@se m] Looking at the code for ENV.[], I don't see anything that would cause
    + 119532 [primehalo@ho] My default shell is bash, but I change to csh to run their scripts (as
    + 119536 [primehalo@ho] Oops, actually, my path did get messed up. I didn't notice before
      + 119549 [drbrain@se m] Hrm...
      + 119570 [primehalo@ho] I did more testing, and found that the path is getting truncated after

Dr. Dobbs Article
119150 [xsltguru@gm ] I just received the latest DDJ which contained an article titled
+ 119152 [dross@co e- ] What Vol number, etc? Tell us if its a good article, thanks. ;)
+ 119156 [logancapaldo] Well I just read it. Pretty interesting. It was about using
  119158 [lyndon.samso] To me, as a ruby slightly-post-newby, method_missing is a unique and
  119192 [aengstrom@gn] Since java is a strongly typed language that won't happen :/ The method
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