111440-113573 subjects 111775-112412

World Science Fiction convention
111604 [matt@te hn r] It's official, the 2007 World Science Fiction convention will be held in
112082 [vjoel@PA H. ] What would he talk about? Rite?  ;)
112122 [nobu.nokada@] Of cource, Babel-18.

nuby question
111611 [juniperbonsa] I just started looking at Ruby, and I really like what I see. I'm just at
111615 [cyclists@nc ] I don't know what's in your namelist array, but it looks to me like somehow
111616 [juniperbonsa] Tim,
+ 111617 [assaph@av ya] irb(main):001:0> a = %w{ a b c d e f }
+ 111621 [cyclists@nc ] Ruby gives you the error message when you reach the last entry in namelist
  111637 [martindemell] That doesn't sound right. The error was

Building postgresql on Windows
111624 [djberg96@ho ] Windows 2000

Problem Having Ruby Wait for a User Input
111625 [phanixis@ya ] I am new to Ruby an have what should be a simple problem.  I want to create
+ 111626 [assaph@av ya] create
| + 111629 [phanixis@ya ] Oh, your first link is broken.
| + 111630 [phanixis@ya ] Here is the code in question, it is intended to get only a single key press
|   111632 [assaph@av ya] Both links work - just retested. If you have trouble accessing it go to
|   + 111635 [markus@re li] Thus my question about what OS you are running.  Under linux (for
|   | 111641 [phanixis@ya ] The thing is, I am quite happy with the code I have already devised for
|   | 111666 [billk@ct .c ] I'm not trying to be a pain - but .... If your current code
|   + 111642 [phanixis@ya ] The code above is capable of acquiring keyboard inputs, at least within the
+ 111628 [markus@re li] Does this do what you want?
  111633 [phanixis@ya ] Is just want a single keystroke.  The operating system I am using is
  111651 [james@gr yp ] According to "The Ruby Way", the Windows method for reading a single

RubyConf 2004: registration info for final weeks
111648 [dblack@wo bl] Dear Rubyists,

(Don't reply to the porn) Re: 1llegal Porn
111649 [drossruby@ya] its not from me though, I have a feeling that it could

Euruko 2004; Munich; wiki problems resolved
111652 [armin@xs .d ] there were some problems with the wiki.

Can't get non-blocking TCP connect to work
111654 [henrik.warne] I am trying to do a non-blocking connect for a TCP connection, and I
111711 [nobu.nokada@] Does this patch help?
111734 [henrik.warne] Thanks a lot Nobu, that did the trick! Now it works without problems. Is
111740 [nobu.nokada@] I think your report would be the first one.
111746 [henrik.warne] Sorry, but I'm rather new to ruby. How/where do I report this bug so the
111823 [nobu.nokada@] Here is enough.  Or, post to ruby-core ML.

Ruby Conference
111655 [matt@te hn r] It seems that there is some big event at the Library of Congress over that
111656 [dblack@wo bl] We won't have time to do anything en masse during the conference

[OT] Re: Perldoc Equivalent?
111658 [batsman.geo@] Ouch! It was in another branch of the same thread, over 1 week ago, but

Hobix error (Was: Ruby blog software.)
111662 [ljz@as as .c] preliminary steps without any error.  Then, I issued this command, as
111763 [ruby-talk@wh] Sorry for the delay.  Did you create the 'blogopotamus' blog?  It should

Gmail-based blog
111663 [ptkwt@ar cn ] It's a blog that uses your Gmail account.  Seems kind of cool.  Now if
111668 [cc1@ce .w st] See this is kinda silly.  Whenever the ruby community finds something
+ 111673 [ptkwt@ar cn ] Quite true, though in this case I don't have php installed and didn't feel
| 111686 [cc1@ce .w st] Yes but I don't think of those as reimplementations, I think of those as
| 112056 [carl.youngbl] Most of the time when I want to implement something in ruby it is
+ 111674 [drossruby@ya] I can see a person wanting to write a library sure,
  111680 [se@he at x. ] Care to elaborate? I am working on one, too. Using Rails. But my first
  111682 [drossruby@ya] I will elaborate when my site is finished :)

Instiki problem requires step 3
111664 [ptkwt@ar cn ] I was going to demo instiki as part of a Ruby talk I'm giving to our local
+ 111667 [jamesUNDERBA] Win2k as well.
| 111685 [mail@pe er c] Apparently this is the case with all of the 0.9.x versions of instiki
| 111695 [botp@de mo t] cool. I have phobia talking to perl hackers, they seem to know all corners
+ 111720 [batsman.geo@] Plz find below a part of the patch I applied to RPAfy instiki 0.9.1;

ruby archiver
111669 [martindemell] Is there any pure-ruby way to pack multiple files into a single file,
+ 111671 [pan@er kv en] Tar2RubyScript [1] goes even one step further: It can execute
+ 111672 [bob.news@gm ] "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
+ 111678 [kristof@vl e] Something like this?
+ 111681 [halostatue@g] As a matter of fact, you can use either Jamis Buck's tar.rb or my
  + 111683 [batsman.geo@] That code has the nice property of working with IO-like objects and
  | 111697 [halostatue@g] This code is also going to be used in the deployment code for Ruwiki
  + 111707 [martindemell] Cool - this sounds like just what I need.

include? only true once
111675 [mrmargolis@w] blockFile = File.new("blocklist.txt", "a+")
111676 [dblack@wo bl] Because you've reached end-of-file :-)
111677 [mrmargolis@w] blockFile = File.new("blocklist.txt", "a+")
111679 [dblack@wo bl] I'm ignorant of #lineno= but it doesn't seem to affect EOF.  (If you
111684 [mrmargolis@w] Excellent, thank you.
111712 [bob.news@gm ] "Matthew Margolis" <mrmargolis@wisc.edu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

Ruby-Nuby forum
111687 [alex@ve k. n] Dear fellow ruby-talkers,
+ 111690 [jamesUNDERBA] I think your intentions are notable, and I'm always glad to see someone
| + 111692 [alex@ve k. n] I recognized the danger that you describe, and was thinking to address
| | + 111696 [gsinclair@so] It seems like you have enough of an idea of what's going on in
| | | 111699 [drossruby@ya] yes interesting, a rehash of what goes on would be
| | + 111708 [hal9000@hy e] No one should feel intimidated to speak up on ruby-talk. If you've seen
| + 111731 [james@gr yp ] I can't speak with authority here, but it's certainly not this way in
|   111738 [dblack@wo bl] Ultimately, if people want to start a beginners' forum, then they
|   111748 [james@gr yp ] While I appreciate what you're saying here, I don't find it as negative
|   + 111749 [dblack@wo bl] Well, as a college professor, I can testify to sometimes feeling that
|   + 111752 [jamesUNDERBA] Various reasons, I'm sure, though none that have to do with this list or
|   + 111753 [khaines@en g] Because when one has a full classroom of student and a single teacher, the
|     111761 [dblack@wo bl] And 12th graders sometimes realize they were absent on a really
+ 111706 [ml-ruby@th p] I love the idea of a beginners forum, but I *hate* web forums.
| + 111709 [alex@ve k. n] My initial post argues that mailing lists are not a better medium in
| + 111732 [james@gr yp ] I see a friendly face from Perl Beginners.  (Hello Randy!  :D  )
+ 111714 [bob.news@gm ] although I can understand your motivation, I'd vote against this.  There
| 111718 [alex@ve k. n] That's where the cross-posting comes in. The role of ruby-talk in this
| + 111727 [dblack@wo bl] Like James B. and Robert K., I would respectfully advise against doing
| | 111750 [agorilla@gm ] I think 'fear' might be too strong a word.  More like 'shy', at least
| + 111765 [brianwisti@y] Don't wait for approval from the whole community, because you're not
|   + 111770 [billk@ct .c ] Here's a weird idea . . .
|   | 111855 [drossruby@ya] That is a very good idea. I have a few thoughts to add
|   | 111858 [james@gr yp ] Are you suggesting we have to add [RT] to every message we DON'T want
|   | 111861 [drossruby@ya] your second accessment is what I meant.
|   | 111877 [james@gr yp ] Not quite.  See below...
|   | + 111887 [jamesUNDERBA] Well, I not so sure a majority of people on this list have voiced *any*
|   | | 111934 [billk@ct .c ] I would be inclined toward the YAGNI razor myself, except for
|   | + 111926 [billk@ct .c ] That's what I was trying to suggest too.
|   + 111772 [dblack@wo bl] I agree with the first sentence (as per one of my earlier posts), but
|     + 111773 [brianwisti@y] Well, I wasn't referring to you *specifically*, just overgeneralizing
|     + 111777 [james@gr yp ] Oh, if that's your complaint, I disagree.  ;)
|       + 111778 [brianwisti@y] Likewise for me with the Perl Beginner's list, as well as an HTML
|       + 111793 [dblack@wo bl] With which one? :-)  Actually the second point -- that ruby-talk has
|       | 111799 [bob.news@gm ] David, first of all thank you for your elaborate expression what I think I
|       + 111824 [jim@fr ez .o] Seems to me that we can't see the forest for the trees.
|         111838 [rff_rff@re o] the motivation is not that he wont' get his answer, is that he won't
|         + 111851 [app1tam@up .] I 2nd that.  But I can only comment on the desirability of the notion.  It
|         + 111853 [drossruby@ya] You aren't going to get a valid response off this
|           111864 [rff_rff@re o] I agree on the 'so it they will come', not on the 'you won't get valid
|           111869 [rff_rff@re o] should be 'do' :)
+ 111730 [james@gr yp ] This is a topic very close to my interests.  I've come here very
  111747 [spam0504@bs ] I also don't like splitting forums too much, but the above seems a good

Code ports and killer-apps (Re: Gmail-based blog)
111688 [jamesUNDERBA] Same here, more or less.  The other side is that many "cool" apps
111689 [daniel@da ie] ohhhhh yes indeed *shudders*
111693 [aredridel@nb] An easy to set up distributed computing system, like dRb but with a

ANN: One-Click Ruby Installer for OS X
111694 [ssteiner@ma ] I have begun work on a version of the One-Click Ruby Installer for Mac
+ 111698 [drossruby@ya] Would you be able to include Rpa-base as well? I just
| + 111701 [curt@hi bs c] This is a serious possibility at some point, but not for the next release
| + 111702 [ssteiner@ma ] ...
+ 111700 [ptkwt@ar cn ] Could you go into a bit more detail about what it would mean to 'have Ruby
  111705 [ssteiner@ma ] In Panther, Apple chose to install Python as a framework in

[ANN] Archive::Tar::Minitar 0.5.0
111703 [halostatue@g] ============================
+ 111704 [halostatue@g] It should show up in the RubyGem list shortly as well, and I suspect
| 111722 [batsman.geo@] Oh sure, I rpafied it some time ago *g*
+ 111769 [cruzin@gm il] Love the name of the product!

[ANN] Firefox Ruby sidebar (Re: ruby sidebar for firefox?)
111710 [jamesUNDERBA] Less trivial than my first glance suggested, but then I wasn't happy
+ 111713 [agorilla@gm ] Very nice!  Covers all the obvious bases content-wise
| 111737 [jamesUNDERBA] I added RubyGarden wiki search.
| 112011 [agorilla@gm ] thx much.  can it be set to display results in the main window?  right
| 112013 [jamesUNDERBA] Well, that won't do.  I'll go fix it.
| 112099 [brianwisti@y] ... and some folks would like the results to stay in the sidebar. Any
| 112106 [jamesUNDERBA] Well, the idea was to create a firefox sidebar, so the initial concern
+ 111716 [drossruby@ya] Oh yes, very good. Runs very well under Firefox 0.9.1
+ 111717 [drossruby@ya] would it be possible to get a developer section on
+ 111719 [robert.mcgov] Looks good and will be quite useful.
| + 111723 [botp@de mo t] very cool and helpful. Suddenly firefox comes so powerful :-)
| | 111774 [mental@gm il] In opera (i have 7.50) you can drag any page on the panel holder
| | 111813 [botp@de mo t] duh, that was quick. I found out later too late that the AddPanel was under
| + 111736 [jamesUNDERBA] I followed whatever instructions I could find on making this happen; all
|   111739 [robert.mcgov] No, not very intuitive.
|   111969 [k@v2 tu io c] It may be overkill to write an extension to do it, but it was the only
+ 111733 [djberg96@ho ] Awesome!  Thanks James!
+ 111998 [hramrach@ce ] It probabbly did not get to the list the first time (at least  I do not
  112014 [jamesUNDERBA] I posted to the mailing list, not Usenet.
  112032 [hramrach@ce ] I was speaking about my message I posted earlier.
  112081 [jamesUNDERBA] OK, now I understand.  Should be better now.
  112158 [hramrach@ce ] Thanks for fixing the sidebar.
  112175 [jamesUNDERBA] Hmm.  Things hosted on ruby-doc.org could be fixed; things hosted on
  112181 [hramrach@ce ] In ProgrammingRuby all text and link colors are unspecified (except

rpa update
111721 [botp@de mo t] I just ran rpa update
+ 111724 [batsman.geo@] mmm sounds good. The only problem is that since this will make everybody
+ 111726 [batsman.geo@] (note: I'm cheating a tiny bit, since it would normally happen only
  111819 [botp@de mo t] Maybe a backup copy of the old will help in some cases (There's a term for
  + 111820 [botp@de mo t] thank you again!
  + 111835 [batsman.geo@] I know how to make  rpa install rpa-base  itself atomic: I'd have

net/https package for Windows
111725 [e98cuenc@fr ] I'm just starting to play with ruby, and doing a toy application I
111780 [rcoder@gm il] Joaquin,
+ 111791 [e98cuenc@fr ] "Lennon Day-Reynolds" <rcoder@gmail.com> a ?crit dans le message de
| 111829 [Stephan.Kaem] I once built something else with MinGW, and as far as I remember
| 111834 [nobu.nokada@] It is not only unnecessary, but wrong, don't rename .so as
+ 112062 [carl.youngbl] Any word on when openssl will be available in the one-click windows
  112135 [Stephan.Kaem] Here's my vote for integrating it into the 1CWI.
  112136 [ryco@gm .n t] I tripped over that, too.
  112144 [curt@hi bs c] Curt
  + 112149 [ryco@gm .n t] Will do, thanks for the hint!
  + 112151 [Stephan.Kaem] Apparently some 'Nobody' did it already. :-)

[Ann] QtRuby 1.0.1
111728 [Richard_Dale] * Instructions for building QtRuby on Mac OS X added to qtruby/README.build
+ 111743 [Richard_Dale] Linus Berglund has just mailed me to say he doesn't know how to generate the
+ 111744 [Richard_Dale] Linus Berglund has just mailed me to say he doesn't know how to generate the

Ruby/HPUX/syscall problem/bug
111729 [tad.bochan@b] If anyone on the list is running ruby on hpux 11+  with  a ruby
+ 111735 [nobu.nokada@] syscall decides that an error occurred when a negative value is
+ 111741 [Ara.T.Howard] i can't help you with the hpux problem - but have you tried to compile guy's
+ 111745 [decoux@mo lo] Well, I don't know for HP/UX but at least on linux you must give it a

tk tabbed pane
111742 [Ara.T.Howard] has anyone out there done work to create some sort of tabbed pane for tk?
111817 [nagai@ai ky ] Is that a something like as a "NoteBook widget (BWdiget extention)"

Find.find bug?
111751 [martindemell] $ ruby -rfind -e 'Find.find("foo") {|e| p e}'
+ 111754 [nobu.nokada@] What version ruby do you run?
| 111755 [martindemell] $ ruby -v
+ 111756 [rff_rff@re o] p e }"
| 111758 [martindemell] Just asked on #ruby-lang - it's been fixed in 1.8.2. Sorry about the
+ 112403 [hramrach@ce ] celkem 0

Request for ideas: simple, useful web app
111757 [khaines@en g] I'm working on a much broader set of IOWA documentation, and core to this is
+ 111760 [rff_rff@re o] I guess this kills the idea of petstore :)
| 111764 [markus@re li] How about something that watched logs for various attacks (e.g. worms,
| 111783 [drossruby@ya] ...
+ 111762 [agorilla@gm ] hmmm... this may be 'too complex', simplify as needed.
+ 111766 [mrmargolis@w] How about a music review site?  A user can view existing reviews or add
+ 111767 [mikael@ph bu] Something like a scheduler?  It's not that complex, entries could be
+ 111771 [Ara.T.Howard] online bookmark manager.
| 111805 [gsinclair@so] *nod nod*
+ 111781 [patrick@he a] Build Dave's Pragmatic Jukebox.  I always wondered what kind of
| 111788 [rcoder@gm il] A web interface to an audio tool is really only useful when running
+ 111792 [probertm@no ] How about a combined Blog/Wiki?
+ 111794 [rff_rff@re o] bug tracking system.
+ 111804 [gsinclair@so] A simple web app that I'd like to create for myself is a "web

Reporting errors/problem with modules part of ruby base
111759 [danyc@no te ] I am a ruby newbie and am intimitaded by posting to this newsgroup... I only made two postings related to modules included with base ruby 1.8.0 and 1.8.1  (net/imap and net/telnet).  I think I did my homework in researching the behavior I observed, but never saw any replies to my postings.
+ 111768 [haaktu@gm il] they're talking about this at the moment. i'll say "don;t be" :-)
| 111776 [danyc@no te ] I've noticed the discussion which prompted me to write this note.  I was concerned with 'breaking' some rules with my postings.
| 111790 [discord@ma .] Yep! That would be the accepted way. Although, if you think there's
+ 111779 [rff_rff@re o] Well, I don't remember your messages, but probably they just got
+ 111797 [hal9000@hy e] I'm sure you're not doing anything wrong.
| 111802 [danyc@no te ] The Net::Telnet was very recent.   Last Friday, Sept 3rd.
| 111803 [hal9000@hy e] Checking back, I see that I did get both of those. :) I thought
| 111900 [danyc@no te ] About the last name... seems to be an 'oddity' even in my mother tongue, French.  Only meet 3 people that could prononce it correctly the first time :)
+ 111949 [aredridel@gm] I often hang out in the #ruby-talk channel on irc.freenode.net. I find
  121692 [aredridel@gm] Gosh darnit, I meant #ruby-lang. Sheesh.