103335-110441 subjects 103907-105211

[Gateway ML->NG]  Sam
103639 [dooby@d1 .k ] (For Dennis, mainly)
+ 103642 [flgr@cc n. e] This message also seemed not to get through from the Mailing List to the
| + 103685 [sroberts@ce ] Btw, this is a validly encoded header field.
| + 103732 [dooby@d1 .k ] Right.  It's from Jun07 (a reply with no refs.) and would have been fixed by
+ 103684 [sroberts@ce ] Hey, that's my name!
  + 103692 [discord@ma .] `sudo hostname ensemble`? I had a similar thing going on on my mac box
  + 103714 [dooby@d1 .k ] Hey, thanks for the correction, Sam!
  + 103720 [beast@sy te ] Uhm, not to be a RFC nazi, but what do you base that on? Ol' 822
  | + 103764 [aredridel@nb] Actually, that's a bindism. The whole trailing dot thing only pertains
  | + 103853 [sroberts@ce ] The DNS specifications talk about DNS domain names ending in an
  + 103739 [dooby@d1 .k ] AFAIK, Message-ID: is assigned by your ISP's mail server.
  + 103828 [aaron@sc ra ] Mutt generates its own Message-ID headers so that they'll be present in

[BUG] Small bugs with frozen things
103646 [flgr@cc n. e] Moin!
+ 103653 [bob.news@gm ] "Florian Gross" <flgr@ccan.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| + 103657 [flgr@cc n. e] Moin moin moin!
| | 103660 [bob.news@gm ] "Florian Gross" <flgr@ccan.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
| + 103702 [gsinclair@so] I use it occasionally.
|   103820 [bob.news@gm ] "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@soyabean.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
|   + 103840 [gsinclair@so] I had a thought about a solution today.  Let's just say that Date#to_s
|   + 103856 [pbrannan@at ] There's no need for this.  You can't change what object an instance
|     + 103859 [sean@ce so t] Just an idea regarding frozen objects: this and other myriad situations could
|     | 103935 [bob.news@gm ] "Sean O'Dell" <sean@celsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
|     + 103934 [bob.news@gm ] "Paul Brannan" <pbrannan@atdesk.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
+ 103829 [nobu.nokada@] Moin,

"Litte Ruby" book
103650 [csaba@ph ny ] The book (or book-germ) entitled "A Little Ruby, A Lot of Objects" was
103652 [usenet@an re] ...
+ 103686 [carl.youngbl] Does anyone know what happened to this book?  It looks like the author
| 103741 [marick@vi ib] I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep
| + 103786 [carl.youngbl] Good to hear.  It seems like a great idea.  The Schemer books were great.
| + 103812 [ssk@ch l. os] I downloaded your book and read the metaclass part.
| + 103822 [rasputnik@he] Great news, this was a really clear explanation of parts of Ruby
| + 103972 [photis@or st] I don't know if this is the right place, but reading this tread got me
| | 104007 [carl.youngbl] (commenting without having read the material quoted) Maybe he is
| | 104110 [JRoshan@bl .] ...
| | 104703 [marick@vi ib] Yes. It would perhaps be clearer if I used a different character in the
| + 104702 [marick@vi ib] The book is back, at http://www.visibleworkings.com.
|   104709 [jamesUNDERBA] Glad to see the book is available again; sad that you do don't have
|   + 104752 [JRoshan@bl .] ...
|   | 104765 [marick@vi ib] Thanks for the kind words. I do want to continue the book, but I'm now
|   + 104983 [marick@vi ib] It still exists. I have three questions about the book from earlier in
+ 103826 [csaba@ph ny ] Huh, thanks, I didn't know this source... This book is quite valueable, as
  + 103835 [JRoshan@bl .] ...
  + 103909 [nick@ac iv h] Yes, but I don't like what it did to the ice cream.

define_method with singleton classes?
103654 [csaba@ph ny ] I'd like to use an existing proc object as a method for a singleton class.
103656 [nobu.nokada@] This singleton class has no effect.
+ 103759 [dooby@d1 .k ] foo.singleton_class.class_eval do
| + 103761 [hal9000@hy e] Yes, thank you, that is one of my favorite RCRs
| + 103833 [csaba@ph ny ] Fine, I did so :)
+ 103832 [csaba@ph ny ] Thanks, cool!

[ANN] self.promote.com/energizer
103658 [quixoticsyco] [ANN] self.promote.com/energizer
+ 103659 [martindemell] GC.start
+ 103663 [surrender_it] to everybody playing "I'll have the last word" in recents threads
+ 103682 [sean@ce so t] Another mature one.
+ 103705 [hal9000@hy e] ")".intern

ri BUG was Re: ri not work in Ruby Installer for Windows
103662 [zakaria@su r] I finally able to track down the problem.

instiki: how to disable views
103665 [clr1.10.rand] Dear instiki users,
103728 [david@lo dt ] The instiki.org wiki has few pages for asking questions and getting
+ 103785 [carl.youngbl] It would be nice if instiki detected whether or not those features
| 103814 [david@lo dt ] Instiki does actually detect whether pdflatex is available on the
+ 103816 [clr1.10.rand] OK. I am a complete wiki novice, so I didn't dare to put such a small

Notice on ruby-lang.org mailing list service restart
103674 [shugo@ru y- ] = WWW/FTP service restart
103675 [tom@in oe he] Very nice, thanks much for all your efforts!

WWW/FTP service restart
103676 [shugo@ru y- ] (The subject of the last message was slipped.)

ruby-dev summary 23671-23689
103679 [ko1@at ot ne] [ruby-dev:23672] CVS server

Layout Manager questions in FxRuby
103683 [NoOne@No he ] I posted this earlier but it seems to have been rejected,  perhaps because I
103794 [lyle@kn lo y] You're adding the buttons directly as children of the FXMainWindow;
+ 103798 [lyle@kn lo y] OK, I tried it under Windows and I'm seeing the (different) behavior
+ 103851 [NoOne@No he ] Thanks very much for your response.
  103866 [dooby@d1 .k ] [For interest only]

Arjen Jongeling, een oude bekende
103687 [ noem@il co ] Hoewel, Arjen Jongeling is hier nog nooit geweest en ik denk dat Arjen Jongeling hier ook nooit meer zal terugkomen. Sterker nog, Arjen Jongeling zit hier helemaal fout. Maar ja, het doet het goed in de Google archieven.

a newbie question about main, Object...
103697 [ssk@ch l. os] I am trying to understand Ruby's pure OO concept.
+ 103731 [vjoel@PA H. ] That's a good question.
| + 103743 [vjoel@PA H. ] Oops. This code works, but it's a little confusing. Since I included
| + 103817 [decoux@mo lo] The glossary say, about main
|   104067 [kbullock@ri ] This thread brought up an interesting idea in my mind. If one truly
|   + 104104 [g_ogata@op u] There was a time when toplevel defs were *private* instance methods of
|   | 104115 [timsuth@ih g] They still are. This was just an irb thing.
|   | + 104124 [eban777@gm i] ...
|   | + 104133 [g_ogata@op u] Oh.  irb bug then?  :/
|   + 104114 [dooby@d1 .k ] Not one that I've seen a lot of.
+ 103846 [d.tore@st de] As I understand it, "main" is an object of class Object that everything
+ 104065 [kbullock@ri ] If you declare a method at top-level, it is a method of Object. For
  104078 [ssk@ch l. os] Excellent explanation, Kevin!
  104093 [kbullock@ri ] Glad I could help.

CGI::Session Question
103748 [orion2480@ho] I am using eruby/mod_ruby on a website I am developing.  Everything is going

webrick dns lookup deactivate ...
103774 [kh.wild@wi o] Is there a way to deactivate

insttiki question
103791 [greg@br nd .] Any try and exerb the thing to create a complete standalone implementation?
103793 [flgr@cc n. e] It has been tried -- there was a minor problem however: Instiki uses the

SVG::Graph looks awesome...
103797 [piir@ea th i] I'm trying to install SVG::Graph through the link below.
103809 [surrender_it] download the .zip package. Then unzip it and open a prompt.
103897 [piir@ea th i] I have done that however, I don't know it's working right.  I'm trying
+ 103901 [austin@ha os] SciTE
+ 103902 [rcoder@gm il] Todd,

Re: mkdir -p
103799 [botp@de mo t] ah, Thank you Minero. My question is no big deal really. I just thought it

Is the modruby mailing list still in existence?
103802 [ninux@ea th ] A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
+ 103823 [rasputnik@he] It's up (a bit quiet) - ISTR the error is because you didn't put two
+ 103848 [shugo@ru y- ] modruby ML will be moved from the old machine to another machine.
  104037 [shugo@ru y- ] modruby ML is restarted:)

[OT] Re: undefine
103803 [dooby@d1 .k ] Hope I haven't chopped out important context but ... Wha_???
103804 [walker@le ha] What I believe Josh meant isn't threading as in real threads, but the subject line. It's kinda annoying when people's clients don't add the "Re: " header by default.
103806 [dooby@d1 .k ] daz
+ 103808 [walker@le ha] I went way back to read the post you were commenting on and now I get what you were complaining about.
+ 103837 [rt@al m. pi ] I see.  I guess I'm used to Outlook (which appears to be a

ANN: Zeus Programmers Editor V3.93
103810 [jussij@ze se] Zeus for Windows Version 3.93 Now Released
103849 [jamesUNDERBA] Are there any known issue with having both RubyScript and the Windows
103913 [jussij@ze se] Unfortunately I can not help you with this. For my purposes I

Re: 'Litte Ruby' book
103813 [kingsley@ic ] Excellent - can't wait to see them !

[ANN] Active Record 0.8.4: Reflections
103818 [david@lo dt ] What's new in Active Record 0.8.4?

[ANN] FXRuby-1.0.29 Now Available
103824 [lyle@kn lo y] All,
103827 [rich@li hi o] I'm confused - this isn't the fxruby release that matches up with FOX 1.2 is
103830 [lyle@kn lo y] No, but thanks for asking; I should have made that more clear. This is just

http://raa.ruby-lang.org/ problems?
103831 [Ara.T.Howard] i am experiencing something quite strange:  if i use lynx to view
+ 103838 [lyle@kn lo y] Works for me. I just visited http://raa.ruby-lang.org about ten minutes ago
+ 103869 [unet@re x. o] [inability to read http://raa.ruby-lang.org/ with mozilla]
| 103871 [mailing-list] I just looked at the sourcecode for the website, and I must say, whoever
+ 103896 [nahi@ke na t] Raa.ruby-lang.org (whose IP address is now) had the IP

Possibly improvable code
103836 [r_mueller@im] ram@lilith:~/src/ruby$time ruby -e 'num=STDIN.gets; a=Array.new; (0..9).each
+ 103843 [Ruben.Vandeg] # get the input
+ 103919 [r_mueller@im] 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
  103923 [Ruben.Vandeg] The above code is pretty nice.. I didn't know about the
  103987 [relm@3t k. e] There is a trade-off, but you may need to throw in some kanji or unicode

Problem with "ri"
103839 [no_replies@f] I ran "ri" on my Linux box last night, from my user home directory.  It
103877 [dave@pr gp o] Presumably you ran rdoc on the files in your home directory. These will
104068 [kbullock@ri ] Putting a note to this effect on the Web pages that describe rdoc and
104382 [dave@pr gp o] the install does it for you.

Two kind of closures?...
103841 [csaba@ph ny ] The post
+ 103842 [decoux@mo lo] svg% cat b.rb
+ 103852 [bob.news@gm ] "Csaba Henk" <csaba@phony_for_avoiding_spam.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
+ 103858 [vjoel@PA H. ] One reason to create a Proc instead of just yielding is that the Proc

Re: Possibly improvable code:
103844 [r_mueller@im] ram@lilith:~/src/ruby$time ruby -e 'str=STDIN.gets; h=Hash.new();  (0..9).each
103854 [ruby-talk@wh] why@stungun$ time ruby -n -e 'c={};$_.each_byte{|b|c[b]||=0; c[b]+=1};
103873 [relm@3t k. e] I typo a lot, so no command line.  Maybe 150-170x speed of OP.
104030 [r_mueller@im] I tried this

how to design plugin functionality
103845 [csshsh@st uc] i have a design question. for example i have a class which reads a file
+ 103847 [zdennis@mk e] I would maybe add a filter class (TextFilter maybe?) and then add them as an
+ 103850 [ahoward@no a] first i'd separate the notion of a file's lines into it's own class - one that
+ 103857 [surrender_it] I'd say that you could use some kind of pattern and so on.
+ 103860 [rich@in oe h] module SortedOutput
  103868 [csshsh@st uc] im really sorry. i think it was really misleading to give such a
  + 103875 [zdennis@mk e] I think overriding the methods of the existing class is poor choice. The
  + 103894 [rich@in oe h] Well, methods can be replaced on classes at runtime as then can on instances

Dominant O/S for Japanese Ruby users?
103855 [no_replies@f] Does anybody know what the dominant O/S for Japanese Ruby users is?  I'm
+ 103861 [mailing-list] I'm American, not Japanese, but in case you're curious, I run WinXP for
+ 103917 [tim@ve et .a] I also am not a Japanese user, but I run ruby on my G4 Powerbook.  Ruby
| 103920 [ruby-lists@l] plenty of other non japanese people are
+ 103918 [nobu.nokada@] Just my guess, it would be Windows, and Linux, NetBSD and

RubyForge projects now have wiki capabilities...
103862 [rich@in oe h] All,
103863 [sean@ce so t] Really nice, thanks for letting us know.  Thanks for the feature Tom.
103864 [tom@in oe he] No problemo!

Delayed Instantiation - delayed.rb
103865 [mhm26@dr xe ] object's methods are needed.  If there's anything fooey about it, or
103891 [mhm26@dr xe ] Sorry for the double post earlier (google issues) and the poorly

Delayed Instantiation - delayed.rb
103867 [mhm26@dr xe ] object's methods are needed.  If there's anything fooey about it, or
+ 103886 [timsuth@ih g] A lot of people say "under Ruby's license" so that the library is under
+ 103936 [ruby@de k. k] class DelayedInstance
  103962 [mhm26@dr xe ] It's just you :-)
  103965 [rcoder@gm il] That just means that you need something like the BlankSlate class,
  103967 [flgr@cc n. e] Are you referring to the EvilRuby-project? (See http://evil.rubyforge.org/)
  103968 [rcoder@gm il] That's not the original source for the hack(s) I was talking about,
  104145 [mhm26@dr xe ] Maybe you meant the become smalltalk stuff people were chatting about?
  104147 [batsman.geo@] You can take a look at evil.rb, which contains an example of how to

[ANN] lockfile-1.0.0
103870 [Ara.T.Howard] URLS

103872 [vjoel@PA H. ] Time.parse is documented in ri, but doesn't seem to be defined. Do I
103881 [dooby@d1 .k ] require 'time'
+ 103882 [discord@ma .] I've had trouble with something like this before... would it be
+ 103888 [vjoel@PA H. ] Nice and easy. Thanks!

Bidirectional named pipes on Linux
103874 [ptkwt@ar cn ] I've got two programs which need to communicate (which eliminates
+ 103879 [gfb@to es ft] The mere fact that 2 independent programs need to communicate does not
| 103885 [ptkwt@ar cn ] That's an idea, but in this case it probably won't work.  One of the
+ 103880 [rcoder@gm il] ...which just hides the fcntl call and nasty constants in a nicer
| + 103884 [ptkwt@ar cn ] Hmmm... are you sure about that negated O_NONBLOCK (~O_NONBLOCK)?  I'm not
| + 103887 [timsuth@ih g] Do you meah
|   103900 [rcoder@gm il] Actually, since it sounded like Phil was trying to force the writer to
+ 103883 [ahoward@no a] what about
+ 103914 [slr2777@cs r] Phil,
| + 103960 [gfb@to es ft] Actually, the original command for making fifos (as well as other types
| + 103966 [ptkwt@ar cn ] You wouldn't happen to have the code which shows the select call, would
+ 103983 [john.carter@] Umm, if I understand things aright, if you open a named pipe in

[ANN] rpa-base 0.1.0 "kitanai"
103876 [batsman.geo@] First public release of rpa-base.
+ 103889 [botp@de mo t] Mauricio Fern?ndez [mailto:batsman.geo@yahoo.com] annnounced;
| + 103892 [rich@in oe h] Actually, because of our stub capability, you don't need to do require_gem
| | 103928 [surrender_it] wow, that's cool, I have not noticed this change :)
| | 103929 [botp@de mo t] just tried.
| | + 103941 [chadfowler@g] Looks like a Windows-specific problem with the RubyGems-generated
| | | 103951 [chad@ch df w] # >
| | + 103943 [batsman.geo@] It seems RubyGems is not generating the stub correctly :-(
| + 103921 [batsman.geo@] Your programs would work unmodified: rpa-base can (and does) manage
+ 103906 [chadfowler@g] $ gem -Ri rpa-base
| 103926 [batsman.geo@] That's good news for Instiki users since they still couldn't install
| 103942 [chadfowler@g] I've actually had a working instiki gem for weeks, but I wanted to do
| 103956 [david@lo dt ] That is indeed so. The 0.9.2 release of Instiki will come with a GEM.
| 104004 [botp@de mo t] k done.
| + 104009 [chadfowler@g] I saw the same problem earlier on my Windows machine behind a firewall
| + 104077 [batsman.geo@] There used to be a win32 specific bug in open-uri.rb, but it was fixed
+ 103916 [ruby-lists@l] got it working now.

Het zal toch niet zijn wie ik denk dat het is?
103878 [ noem@il co ] Is het die Ear Youth weer? Nee, het is Arjen Jongeling!

Extension which depends on another extension
103890 [quixoticsyco] I have two extensions, ext_x.so and ext_y.so.  ext_y.so references a
+ 103893 [nobu.nokada@] Such usage is not guaranteed on all platforms.
| 103898 [quixoticsyco] Yes I didn't realize that until now.  It makes sense, since there is no
+ 103899 [dooby@d1 .k ] You have to link ext_y.so with the dynamic lib file for ext_x.so which

require vs require_gem
103905 [gsinclair@so] I'd like to make some comments on the use of 'require' vs 'require_gem' in
103984 [jim@we ri hh] I would like to add some of my own (still fermenting) thought on
104042 [chadfowler@g] I'm with you on this one (along with the fermenting).  require_gem