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^ Error installing some extensions under non-default prefix
0633 [jos catnook.] cd obj
0634 [jos catnook.] Never mind, when I emptied the build dir (obj) the problem went away :-/ My
^ Solaris fwrite() problem (Re: Error installing some extensions under non-default prefix)
0635 [nobu.nokada ] The patch in [ruby-core:00582] is no longer necessary?
0638 [jos catnook.] Unfortunately, until Sun puts out patches to fix this problem, it is still
^ [patch] doc/NEWS
0636 [matt lickey.] I added and clarified some things in doc/NEWS and thought it would be
+ 0637 [knu iDaemons] Thanks much! I'll commit it shortly.
| 0639 [matz ruby-la] Done. Thank you for the suggestion.
| 0644 [akr m17n.org] If an assignment method which doesn't return an argument is not
| 0645 [matz ruby-la] Agreed. Last time I thought that, I was too lazy to modify compiler
| 0648 [nobu.nokada ] Is it better to define NODE_ASGN?
| 0649 [matz ruby-la] Yes, I'd name it NODE_ATTRSET...oops, we already have that one.
| 0651 [nobu.nokada ] When a.b= is defined, defined?(a.b = 1) should be "method" or
| + 0652 [nobu.nokada ] @@ -4766,4 +4766,5 @@ node_assign(lhs, rhs)
| + 0653 [matz ruby-la] Hmm, I guess it should be "method". Oh, we should fix []= too.
| 0655 [matz ruby-la] I changed my mind. It should be "assignment". Commit the fix above.
+ 0640 [nobu.nokada ] Great jobs.
0641 [matt lickey.] I tried to explain simply (attached as patch against current
+ 0642 [matt lickey.] Sorry! The patch also modifies re.c -- obviously don't apply this
+ 0643 [nobu.nokada ] Thank you.
0646 [matt lickey.] Yes, though I was thinking that if Regexp#match has the index
+ 0647 [nobu.nokada ] String#match already hasn't it? Well, you're correct.
+ 0650 [matt lickey.] Actually I think the "elegant" solution to the problem is lazy string
0654 [nobu.nokada ] A String instance always has '\0' terminator not included in
+ 0656 [matz ruby-la] I like this. Commit this, please.
+ 0657 [matt lickey.] I'll try to understand this new string code, but I wonder if you could
0658 [nobu.nokada ] Related to Array#pack/String#unpack. It means that the string
^ Ruby instead of PHP?
0659 [d.werder pla] I new to Ruby and I¥¨d like to know if anybody tried to use Ruby as a replacement to PHP?
0660 [matz ruby-la] It's better to ask questions like this at the ruby-talk list or
^ AW: Welcome to our (ruby-core ML) You are added automatically
0661 [horst.neusch] help
^ Error in sprintf.c?
0662 [a.bokovoy sa] Greetings!
0663 [nobu.nokada ] sprintf("%*1$2$s", 10, "hello") # => " hello"
0664 [a.bokovoy sa] Ok, it works now. I'm updating ProgrammingRuby sources to produce
^ tempfile typo
0665 [jim freeze.o] I just installed ruby 173 from cvs and got an error in tempfile.rb
0666 [knu iDaemons] Fixed, thanks!
^ Segfault in Ruby 1.7.x/1.8 Proc#to_s
0667 [ged FaerieMU] I've been experiencing a segfault when inspecting or calling to_s on a
+ 0668 [decoux moulo] Look is the node is still valid
+ 0669 [matz ruby-la] Could you show me
+ 0670 [decoux moulo] rb_gc_mark_frame() don't mark the node : it's normal ?
| 0671 [matz ruby-la] This is a great hint. Thank you.
+ 0672 [ged FaerieMU] Yukihiro Matsumoto (in "Re: Segfault in Ruby 1.7.x/1.8 Proc#to_s")
0673 [matz ruby-la] Would this patch help you?
0674 [ged FaerieMU] Yukihiro Matsumoto (in "Re: Segfault in Ruby 1.7.x/1.8 Proc#to_s")
^ IO#read bug: patch
0675 [matju sympat] File.open("/dev/zero").read(1<<24,"").length
0676 [matz ruby-la] Thank you!
^ Basic UNIXSocketDGram implementation
0677 [mattbee soup] Has anyone else tried adding UNIX datagram sockets to Ruby? I can't quite see
0678 [mattbee soup] Please excuse me, I'm not sure how I managed to make setting non-blocking mode
^ pstore not usable on read-only stores
0679 [matt lickey.] It seems like it should be possible to use a PStore on a read-only
0680 [matz ruby-la] Thank you for the suggestion. I will merge this.
^ local_variables: exception "NULL pointer given"
0681 [Markus.Barch] I am new to the mailing list and I hope that the topic is appropriate
0682 [nobu.nokada ] It must be an aged bug, fixed now. Thank you.
^ 1.6.7 -vs- 1.8.0 incompatibility intended?
0683 [matt lickey.] In 1.6.7, String.=~(arg) would compile 'arg' into a Regexp and do the
+ 0689 [matt lickey.] Shall I add this as a ruby bug?
+ 0695 [matz ruby-la] Intended. 1.8 reduces implicit conversion (e.g. String#split).
^ Re: Welcome to our (ruby-core ML) You are added automatically
0684 [moumar netco] help
^ instruby.rb
0685 [decoux moulo] Apparently instruby.rb use fileutils rather than ftools, consequence
^ [Patch] Wall compilation
0686 [michal rokos] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
0691 [nobu.nokada ] Is it needed?
0693 [michal rokos] Try -Wall compilation. It warns badly (gcc-3.2.2) about the code has no
+ 0696 [matz ruby-la] OK, commit all fixes, except for rb_check_array_type().
| 0697 [michal rokos] Commited. Thank you.
+ 0698 [nobu.nokada ] I've used this (void)0 trick many times, we have to replace
0701 [michal rokos] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
0703 [nobu.nokada ] Possibly, gcc 3.2.2 always complains about assert() if NDEBUG?
0704 [michal rokos] You were right here. ((void)0) is absolutely perfect. GCC doesn't say a
^ [Patch] C2003
0687 [michal rokos] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
0694 [matz ruby-la] ;-) Please commit them, please.
^ [RFC] mkmf.rb - add files to clean and distclean targets
0688 [michal rokos] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
+ 0692 [nobu.nokada ] You'd better initialize those globals in init_mkmf, or you may
| 0700 [michal rokos] Thank you for your comments.
| 0702 [nobu.nokada ] Thank you.
| 0705 [michal rokos] You're welcome.
| 0706 [nobu.nokada ] I guess the initialization in init_mkmf is necessary, but one
| 0707 [michal rokos] You're the boss :)
| 0720 [nobu.nokada ] In extmk.rb, $CPPFLAGS and $LIBPATH will be reset for each
| 0748 [michal rokos] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
| 0752 [nobu.nokada ] It looks good for me.
| 0755 [michal rokos] Glad to hear it. Commited.
+ 0722 [matju sympat] I've written an extension but it is different enough from regular
0740 [matz ruby-la] mkmf.rb does support C++, using $(CXX) for compiler, cpp, cxx, or C
+ 0741 [nobu.nokada ] Actually it's done bye extmk.rb. I'm writing mkmf.rb wrapper
+ 0742 [a.bokovoy sa] BTW, I implemented a mimic of Perl's vendor-install for 1.7. It separates
| 0744 [matz ruby-la] Show us the code, please.
| 0746 [a.bokovoy sa] Attached. The patch is against mid-November CVS (I haven't tried against
| 0749 [matz ruby-la] Thank you. But I don't understand purpose of the following
| 0750 [a.bokovoy sa] $prefix/lib/ruby is used to install architecture-specific linked objects
| 0751 [matz ruby-la] *.rb files may or may not be platform independent. Do you happen to
| + 0753 [a.bokovoy sa] Yes, actually perl5 has this feature (look at 5.8's INSTALL file).
| + 0754 [nobu.nokada ] What about RUBY_{SHARED,LIB}_{PREFIX,PATH} and so on?
| 0763 [a.bokovoy sa] That would be better, or course.
+ 0794 [matju sympat] I'm sorry. My problem surely occurs because I had .c files which were in
0795 [knu iDaemons] Wasn't it what the "depend" hook is for?
^ Forward: Marshal patch
0690 [nobu.nokada ] Fowarding.
^ OSSL2
0699 [michal rokos] because Ruby 1.8 is comming and OpenSSL 0.9.7 is now default in Debian
^ Documentation for thread.rb
0708 [gsinclair so] Below is a patch for thread.rb [1], containing RDoc comments. These
0709 [matz ruby-la] This should eventually removed.
0710 [gsinclair so] OK, I'll leave them in for now, for consistency, and to avoid wasting
0711 [matz ruby-la] FIXME is OK. As I told you before the most important thing is
^ Is Ruby in a Nutshell online?
0712 [gsinclair so] Since I'm copying bits out of Nutshell to add documentation to
0713 [matz ruby-la] Unfortunately, no. I have my copy of manuscript in the Word format,
0714 [gsinclair so] That's OK. You keep doing your work, and I'll get some typing
^ thwait.rb documented, but feedback required
0715 [gsinclair so] I've committed thwait.rb with documentation, but I'd like to get the
0718 [matz ruby-la] He can be reached at <keiju@rational.com>.
^ [bug, patch] FileTest.writable? is broken on windows
0716 [matt lickey.] Under a _WIN32 build, FileTest.writable? returns true for all files
^ Wall ((void)0) - again
0717 [michal rokos] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
0745 [matz ruby-la] Yes, commit the patch.
0747 [michal rokos] Thank you. Commited.
^ nd_end and NODE_NEWLINE (fwd)
0719 [chad chadfow] Sorry for the elementary questions, though I have to warn you all that you
0723 [matz ruby-la] For the latest 1.8, it keep the end of NODE_BLOCK list, to avoid
+ 0725 [matju sympat] I thought that was node->flags >> 19 ??? Then why this duplication?
| + 0726 [matz ruby-la] The debugger requires per line event, not per node.
| + 0729 [nobu.nokada ] Now line number is taken from there on demand, and NODE_NEWLINE
| 0737 [matju sympat] couldn't this work simply by having eval.c trigger a debugger event each
| 0739 [matz ruby-la] Node may not be in source line order.
+ 0727 [chad chadfow] Thank you very much, Matz. After sending this, I had figured out the
^ ModuleBuilder started
0721 [stillflame F] Hey -core,
^ Symbols: More Functionality Wanted
0724 [rpav nwlink.] I've been discussing this for a bit on #ruby-lang on OPN (or freenode or
0728 [matz ruby-la] Interesting idea, but I feel like they are responsibility of Binding,
+ 0731 [rpav nwlink.] This sounds logical to me.
+ 0732 [nobu.nokada ] Tried.
| 0735 [nobu.nokada ] Forgotten special variables can be refered from other methods. So
+ 0743 [pit capitain] I like this. See http://www.ruby-talk.org/44703 for some ideas.
| 0767 [matju sympat] ________________________________________________________________
| 0768 [dblack candl] I seem not to have gotten anything prior to this post in
| + 0779 [gsinclair so] Binding#add doesn't sound right if the symbol you're binding already
| | 0780 [matt lickey.] The problem is that Binding is the wrong name for the class. A
| | 0782 [matz ruby-la] I consider "binding" as "a collection of bindings" in your term. For
| | 0783 [matt lickey.] I think so. That sounds strange in English. It is like saying an
| | + 0784 [matz ruby-la] Parhaps you're right. I'm not an English speaker anyway.
| | | 0787 [rpav nwlink.] What about "Scope", as in Scope and Extent? These terms are originally
| | | 0788 [matju sympat] Winston-Horn LISP (3rd ed) also uses the word Fence to mean a lexical
| | | 0790 [jlst gettysg] Would it be possible to provide an analog to const_get/set() methods
| | | 0836 [gnhurst hurs] So why not call it a "Mapping"?
| | | 0849 [matz ruby-la] Can "mapping" mean set of maps from name to value?
| | | 0855 [matju sympat] yes it can, and "map" itself may mean that, as it is nearly-synonymous
| | + 0785 [vjoel PATH.B] I think it's ok to use "binding" this way. Let's look at another word
| | 0786 [matt lickey.] You can use association this way, but not binding. E.g. this is more
| + 0781 [matju sympat] Bind#bind(sym,val) as in "bind a symbol to a value, in the context of a
+ 0800 [dblack candl] I'd add that the arguments could also be strings. There's no
^ Comments on matrix.rb
0730 [gsinclair so] I've commented matrix.rb, and in the process made the following
+ 0733 [ged FaerieMU] irb(main):001:0> m = Matrix[[1,0,0], [0,1,0], [0,0,1]]
| 0734 [gsinclair so] You're quite right, and Matrix sensibly has "private_class_method :new"
+ 0736 [matju sympat] The problem with #minor is that it's not a minor, it's a slice.
0738 [gsinclair so] Sigh... now we get into the "this method is badly named, but changing
^ lib/rational.rb
0756 [sean chitten] Simple patch that I've had floating around in my tree for ages, this
^ Extensions for Time and ParseDate
0757 [ryand-ruby z] Eric and I have been hacking around and we can't stand the lack of
+ 0760 [matt lickey.] I didn't look closely at what you did, but do check out time.rb as
+ 0761 [matz ruby-la] Since localtime(3) and gmtime(3) do not understand timezone other than
| 0765 [matju sympat] May I know what that problem is? I'm curious, because two of my
| 0773 [matz ruby-la] 1.6.8 and 1.8.0 does not provide duplicated error constants, so that
| + 0774 [ryand-ruby z] I think it's simpler than that... In the case of the header I was
| + 0789 [matju sympat] hahaha. ok, i found that one by experience. I had to add this line for
+ 0762 [nobu.nokada ] What about time.rb?
^ Patches for Rubicon
0758 [nathaniel ta] (Sorry if this is a duplicate)
^ Adding Test::Unit to CVS
0759 [nathaniel ta] Matz has already given me the go-ahead to add Test::Unit to CVS, but I
+ 0764 [dave pragmat] Is there a reason that rubicon couldn't be included? It seems pretty
| + 0770 [ryand-ruby z] I've talked to Matz about this (at rubyconf2002) and he was open to the
| | 0775 [nathaniel ta] the
| | + 0776 [matt lickey.] Does it work to have some tests native Test::Unit and some tests
| | | 0777 [nathaniel ta] I think the tricky part comes not in the tests themselves so much, but
| | + 0778 [ryand zenspi] I'd be happy to convert them. It's not that much work...
| + 0772 [matz ruby-la] The only reason I can think of is absence of Test::Unit in the
+ 0766 [knu iDaemons] The procedure is OK. You can keep developing the module in the rough/
0769 [nathaniel ta] Excellent. I will go forward with it shortly.
0771 [ryand-ruby z] If there is, please point this out to me... I'm working on release
^ [PATCH] RDoc
0791 [nobu.nokada ] # Though I'm not sure which is appropriate to post this,
^ [Patches] Mem leak & found on disk
0792 [michal rokos] is there a small leak in dir.c?
^ net/ftp.rb observations
0793 [gsinclair so] attr_accessor :return_code
^ Re: value of assignment (Re: Order of the value of an expression changed? (PR#579))
0796 [sean chitten] I have read the thread and I think this is a pretty bad change. I
+ 0797 [decoux moulo] bdb was also broken by this modification.
+ 0798 [matz ruby-la] That's how assignment works. I just made it consistent for attribute
0826 [sean chitten] Can I reiterate how absolutely, fundamentally broken this change is
0827 [nobu.nokada ] root = XML::Parser.new().set_string(str).root
0828 [sean chitten] I know how to work around it... doesn't make it "right" though. :)
0829 [matz ruby-la] Consistency. Ruby provides illusion of assignment for attribute
+ 0830 [sean chitten] I must not be getting it.
| + 0834 [matt lickey.] i = f.b = 42
| | 0835 [sean chitten] That precludes a module from altering the return value though. If
| | + 0837 [matt lickey.] Unlike some OO languages, not everything in Ruby is a method call.
| | + 0838 [jlst gettysg] I've tasted the Kool-Aid and changed my mind about this (even though it
| | | + 0839 [decoux moulo] For me it's confusing if `bdb["blue"]' and `bdb["blue"] = "XYZ"' don't
| | | | 0841 [jlst gettysg] I know but neither of these evaluation schemes guarantees that
| | | | 0842 [decoux moulo] pigeon% cat b.rb
| | | | 0853 [jlst gettysg] I see your point. I guess maybe you're right. It makes the most sense
| | | + 0840 [sean chitten] Honestly? I don't care about new users particularly, only clean
| | | + 0859 [matju sympat] * f.b = a would behave like (f.b=a; f.b)
| | + 0844 [matz ruby-la] Really.
| | 0847 [jim freeze.o] Isn't this like
| + 0854 [pit capitain] When reading code I read the assignment operator as an assignment.
| 0860 [matju sympat] # if out-of-range, auto-adjusts percent to closest valid value
| 0862 [pit capitain] thanks for the code example.
| 0867 [matju sympat] This is the old debate between implicitness and explicitness. I am not
+ 0831 [dblack candl] Would it be possible to have method-style return behavior iff the
0832 [nobu.nokada ] Interesting, but how will you distinguish it from assignment,
0833 [dblack candl] Something like that... or maybe just by the presence of the () ? I
0845 [matz ruby-la] Hmm, how about
0846 [nobu.nokada ] a.:thing=(100)
0848 [matz ruby-la] This is very good candidate if we need to add new syntax. But I still
0850 [stillflame F] what about if attr_accessor :foo defined three methods - #foo, #foo=, and
0856 [matz ruby-la] Possible. But I still don't know whether it is needed enough to
0858 [jlst gettysg] Definitely care. And very grateful that you are the one to make these
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