18437-23220

18301-20708 subjects 18665-24210

^ Class as second-generation singleton class
18437 [dblack rubyp] class Object
18556 [dblack rubyp] I'm just bumping this in the hope that someone can explain its
18557 [binary42 gma] I think it has been reported numerous times including bugs in some
18559 [dblack rubyp] It's been mentioned some but I haven't been able to track down or
18706 [pbrannan atd] Seems to have been introduced a long time ago, before yarv was merged

^ [PATCH] remove timer signal after last ruby thread has died
18444 [ice799 gmail] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
18445 [nobu ruby-la] Your patch ignores pthread.
21558 [ice799 gmail] Thanks for handling the pthread case.
+ 21559 [matz ruby-la] Nobu, could you check the patch in?
| 23218 [rubytalk tmm] Is this patch in 1.8 HEAD?
| 23220 [hongli plan9] For those who might be interested: this patch will be included in the
+ 21623 [rogerdpack g] Am I right in assuming this problem doesn't affect 1.9 at all?

^ Global constants and other magic in 1.9 stdlib
18446 [hramrach cen] I am not following 1.9 development.
18453 [dev mernen.c] I should note that $?, along with $_ and many regexp-related
18461 [pbrannan atd] rb_define_readonly_variable("$?", &rb_last_status);
18464 [matz ruby-la] Since $? is a result from waitpid, which is not always bound to a
18465 [dblack rubyp] I'm wondering if I'm misinterpreting this as thread-local $? behavior,
18466 [matz ruby-la] My bad.  I forgot that Ruby does save/restore $? value at the

^ useless external functions
18447 [ko1 atdot.ne] I counted references of external functions in MRI/trunk.

^ [Bug #496] DRb.start_service(nil) is very slow
18448 [redmine ruby] Issue #496 has been updated by Brian Candler.

^ [Bug #496] DRb.start_service(nil) is very slow
18451 [redmine ruby] Issue #496 has been updated by Hongli Lai.

^ WEBrick issue - HTTP/1.1 and IO objects
18454 [B.Candler po] I am wondering if the following is a bug in WEBrick.
+ 18459 [B.Candler po] Here are a couple more WEBrick anomolies - does anyone care??
| + 18460 [B.Candler po] Another quick note on WEBrick: it will only let you stream a response body
| + 18462 [vjoel path.b] Thank you! I've been wondering what that meant.
+ 18565 [B.Candler po] I'd like to propose a patch for this issue.

^ Instantiating subclasses of Proc
18456 [tilman apfel] I would like to hear your opinion about an inconsistency I recently
18457 [matz ruby-la] Which version do you use?  Try newer version.
18458 [tilman apfel] I see, it was fixed two weeks ago. Thanks. --Tilman

^ Bug in the YAML library: #dump fails for certain multi-line strings
18463 [jtrupiano gm] Hey guys,
18495 [jtrupiano gm] I'll be sitting in #ruby-core today if anyone's interested in

^ optparse.rb: $@[0,2] = nil
18467 [tilman apfel] I have a question about the method OptionParser#notwice in

^ [Bug #528] Several ruby-mode.el improvements
18470 [redmine ruby] Issue #528 has been updated by Nathan Weizenbaum.
18472 [matz ruby-la] Since I am no git expert, could you re-attach the right patches?

^ [Bug #473](Rejected) File.chmod does not validate the permission attribute
18473 [redmine ruby] Issue #473 has been updated by Yukihiro Matsumoto.

^ [Bug #528] Several ruby-mode.el improvements
18475 [redmine ruby] Issue #528 has been updated by Nathan Weizenbaum.
18476 [matz ruby-la] Could you tell us which patches should we apply?  Is it ok to apply

^ [Bug #528] Several ruby-mode.el improvements
18477 [redmine ruby] Issue #528 has been updated by Nathan Weizenbaum.
18478 [matz ruby-la] OK, thanks.  I will apply the patches soon.

^ [Bug #549] ri -f html mungles constants
18479 [redmine ruby] Bug #549: ri -f html mungles constants

^ [Bug #528](Closed) Several ruby-mode.el improvements
18480 [redmine ruby] Issue #528 has been updated by Yukihiro Matsumoto.

^ 'absolute_path()' patch for ruby 1.8.7 lastest
18481 [admin hawtho] This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
18482 [matz ruby-la] Thank you.  It's up to the 1.8 maintainer, knu.

^ Ruby Mode
18483 [admin hawtho] Is there any documentation on ruby-mode.el and it's
+ 18484 [nex342 gmail] Yes, there's a fair amount in the file itself. Phil Hagelberg (aka
+ 18488 [phil hagelb.] For any Emacs mode, you can press C-h b while it's active to get a

^ Ruby 1.9 strings & character encoding
18486 [michael.seli] Firstly, I apologise if I am going over old ground here - I haven't been
18492 [matz ruby-la] each_code is ambiguous for me.  codepoint?
18494 [michael.seli] Is "each_codepoint" too long?
+ 18499 [naruse airem] When you use each_code?
| + 18500 [Tim.Bray Sun] In Unicode, each_character and each_codepoint would mean the same
| | + 18503 [manfred fngt] I would definately use an iterator over codepoints, it would make
| | + 18515 [shyouhei rub] # First off, I'm neutral to this issue
| |   18530 [Tim.Bray Sun] =20
| |   + 18533 [akr fsij.org] "=E9" is a character, even if it is represented as two
| |   | + 18534 [manfred fngt] Yes, but that gets really complicated really fast [1]. And that's not =20=
| |   | | 18622 [duerst it.ao] For some users maybe yes. For some programmers, maybe no.
| |   | | 18633 [akr fsij.org] Unless doing that, single character in JIS X 0213 is mapped
| |   | | 18652 [hramrach cen] Can I ask what character(s) that would be?
| |   | | 18653 [akr fsij.org] KATAKANA LETTER SE WITH SEMI-VOICED SOUND MARK for example.
| |   | | + 18656 [hramrach cen] My guess is this is not very common letter. I have no idea what it
| |   | | | 18659 [Tim.Bray Sun] It's not just an Asian thing.  The Welsh language has common
| |   | | | 18661 [naruse airem] Combining characters in UTF8-MAC may be also common.
| |   | | + 18768 [duerst it.ao] It depends very much on what kind of processing is going on.
| |   | + 18547 [Tim.Bray Sun] Unfortunately it's generally impossible to agree on a definition of =
| |   | | 18626 [duerst it.ao] I think what Akira meant here is that you should use some kind
| |   | | 18629 [hramrach cen] T24gMTYvMDkvMjAwOCwgTWFydGluIER1ZXJzdCA8ZHVlcnN0QGl0LmFveWFtYS5hYy5qcD4gd3Jv
| |   | + 18623 [duerst it.ao] It is desirable in some situations, but not in others.
| |   + 18540 [naruse airem] I don't know datails of full-text indexing systems,
| |     18549 [Tim.Bray Sun] =20
| + 18504 [michael.seli] Having a way of easily iterating through the codepoints (or whatever you
| | + 18505 [gregory.t.br] I like the idea of defaulting encoding to BINARY (ASCII-8BIT) when
| | | 18506 [james graypr] Yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense too.  Of course, if they specify
| | + 18507 [akr fsij.org] If you need to work with bytes, IO#getbyte can be used.
| | | 18510 [dave pragpro] But we also quite often want to work the the whole file. I believe
| | | 18511 [akr fsij.org] "rb:ASCII-8BIT"?  It works.
| | | + 18512 [gregory.t.br] Would the encoding of File.binread() be BINARY?
| | | + 18514 [michael.seli] "rb" by itself only works if your default encoding is ascii compatible I
| | | | + 18516 [akr fsij.org] Yes.  "rb" doesn't work on ruby -E UTF-16BE.
| | | | + 18517 [neleai sezna] More probably it wont notice and cause you obscure bugs like when finding
| | | + 18624 [duerst it.ao] Wouldn't "r:BINARY" or some such be able to do the job?
| | + 18539 [naruse airem] Why each_char and String#ord isn't enough?
| |   18621 [duerst it.ao] In my experience, in many cases where each_char is really
| + 18625 [duerst it.ao] [Sorry for being so late in answering. Among else, I was
+ 18627 [duerst it.ao] [just a bit more background]

^ Make irb start a new line on EOF
18513 [dev mernen.c] Other interactive interpreters (namely `python`, `lua`, `psh`, and
18590 [dev mernen.c] No comments? I guess I'm the only one who feels quite bothered by
18591 [nex342 gmail] For what it's worth, I'd prefer it to produce the newline as well.

^ rubylex-analyzer?
18518 [admin hawtho] I am trying to understand the "state equipped scanner"
18520 [ryand-ruby z] That is probably '-y'. I don't find it helpful except when I'm

^ Warning for trailing comma in method declarations
18522 [murphy rubyc] def file_replace filename, file,
+ 18523 [jeremy bitsw] Putting parentheses around your method arguments is a simpler, cleaner
+ 18524 [dblack rubyp] I believe the comma already makes it clear what you want. I would not
  18526 [murphy rubyc] That's the problem: If the "first line" of your method is an assignment,
  18529 [dblack rubyp] But at some point, when you test it, you'll realize that something

^ Ruby for OS/2 Maintainer
18525 [gentux2 gmai] I would like to please be considered as a possible Maintainer for the
+ 18531 [shortcutter ] So this is your idea of maintenance - dropping all the OS/2 code? :-)
| 18543 [gentux2 gmai] Funny. :) You're right, that formulation was awkward.
+ 18707 [gentux2 gmai] I am reporting back with results on building Ruby on OS/2 (eComStation).

^ [Bug #555] method_missing in Gem module removes some necessary methods
18527 [redmine ruby] Bug #555: method_missing in Gem module removes some necessary methods

^ Ruby 1.9 string performance
18532 [michael.seli] I would like to submit the attached patch to string.c which substantially
+ 18550 [akr fsij.org] make install
| 18552 [michael.seli] Thanks for this, I'll check it out over the weekend. Perhaps I ran the tests
+ 18558 [naruse airem] The outline of your optimizations,
  + 18596 [michael.seli] I have made some changes to the faulty patch to string.c that I posted
  + 18612 [michael.seli] Unfortunately this is very time consuming because string.c is changing
    18616 [michael.seli] Here are 3 other patches for String performance. Please apply

^ [Bug #557] Regexp does not match longest string
18535 [redmine ruby] Bug #557: Regexp does not match longest string
18537 [ed.odanow wo] Ruby's regular expession engine isn't a posix engine. The same is true
18538 [shortcutter ] I'd say this is not about POSIX or not. Rather, the reason for the
18541 [ed.odanow wo] There are interpreted NFAs, which match all alternatives and select the
18542 [shortcutter ] Thanks for the education.  But given the choice I'd rather retain the
18545 [ed.odanow wo] 100% aggrement.

^ [Bug #557](Closed) Regexp does not match longest string
18536 [redmine ruby] Issue #557 has been updated by Shyouhei Urabe.

^ IRHG - The Latest Release of Ruby Hackers Guide (English)
18548 [admin hawtho] Core,

^ IRHG - WebSite hawthorne-press.com updated
18551 [admin hawtho] To answer an early request, go to hawthorne-press.com

^ Ruby on BeOS
18553 [pete.goodeve] I posted to comp.lang.ruby a while back about keeping the port of

^ Changing Encoding.default_external at runtime
18554 [drbrain segm] I'd like to be able to change Encoding.default_encoding for testing
18609 [akr fsij.org] It is not thread safe.

^ Parsing oddities after a method/variable clash
18555 [caleb infora] def aa x; [:aa, x] end

^ ruby-mode.el and XEmacs
18562 [nex342 gmail] Someone just notified me that my patches to ruby-mode.el break XEmacs

^ name of "rb_thread_blocking_region()" api
18567 [ko1 atdot.ne] Some people pointed out that the name of rb_thread_blocking_region()

^ Selecting extensions to build
18570 [nl a3li.info] Hey there,

^ [Bug #559] WEBrick should use #bytesize instead of #size
18571 [redmine ruby] Bug #559: WEBrick should use #bytesize instead of #size

^ Working on CSV's Encoding Support
18572 [james graypr] I'm trying to get the standard CSV library ready for m17n in Ruby
+ 18573 [gregory.t.br] This sounds best, I agree.
| 18580 [james graypr] Yeah, that's kind of the point of ASCII-8BIT, as I understand it.  =20
| + 18581 [gregory.t.br] Great news.  Let me know when you have something checked into the 1.9
| + 18613 [vincent.isam] The last byte of a multibyte character cannot look like an ASCII
|   18614 [james graypr] You're right of course.  Thanks for reminding me.
+ 18575 [james graypr] According to the new Pickaxe, Regexp is suppose to pick up the
  + 18576 [michael.seli] This is because Shift-JIS is a superset of ascii (well nearly), and all
  | 18583 [james graypr] Yeah, I think I understand this now.  But is a US-ASCII Regexp
  | 18586 [michael.seli] I think understand what you are saying. You are right, you will need
  | 18587 [james graypr] Good to hear I'm not totally crazy.  :)
  | 18588 [michael.seli] No problem. I am just starting to get into this myself.
  | + 18589 [michael.seli] Sorry, I made a mistake in my previous mail.
  | | 18592 [james graypr] US-=20
  | + 18593 [james graypr] I was worried about a UTF-8 character where the trailing byte looked
  |   18601 [michael.seli] I don't think it is quite that bad. Regexp's appear to be broken on UTF-16
  |   18606 [james graypr] And it looks like we've now seen this wasn't really the issue.  It
  + 18579 [james graypr] This was my fault.  UTF-16 is not a valid encoding name.  Once I

^ Memory "leak" due to inline caching?
18574 [charles.nutt] A few months ago a bug was reported in JRuby where the inline method
18607 [ruby-ml kitt] I discussed this on IRC with Charlie earlier, but continuing

^ [Bug #562] String#encode Behaving Like String#encode!
18578 [redmine ruby] Bug #562: String#encode Behaving Like String#encode!

^ [Bug #562](Closed) String#encode Behaving Like String#encode!
18582 [redmine ruby] Issue #562 has been updated by Nobuyoshi Nakada.

^ [Bug #563] Regexp::escape is not Encoding Aware
18584 [redmine ruby] Bug #563: Regexp::escape is not Encoding Aware
18608 [akr fsij.org] Fixed.  Thank you.

^ StringIO and Encodings
18585 [james graypr] I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but shouldn't StringIO simulate
18597 [naruse airem] StringIO is not m17ned yet.

^ [Bug #564] Regexp fails on UTF-16 & UTF-32 character encodings
18594 [redmine ruby] Bug #564: Regexp fails on UTF-16 & UTF-32 character encodings
18602 [akr fsij.org] % ruby -ve 'p Regexp.new("abc".encode("UTF-16BE")) =~ "abc".encode("UTF-16BE")'
18603 [michael.seli] I see, I have diagnosed the problem wrongly. I was using irb.
18605 [james graypr] So it's inspect() that has the issues, right?
18610 [naruse airem] YES, a reason of this problem is Regexp#inspect.
18671 [matz ruby-la] Can you commit?

^ [Feature #565] Encoding::compatible? should also accept Encoding objects as parameters
18595 [redmine ruby] Feature #565: Encoding::compatible? should also accept Encoding objects as parameters
18598 [naruse airem] r19357 allows Encoding::compatible? to accept Encoding and IO objects.

^ [Feature #565](Closed) Encoding::compatible? should also accept Encoding objects as parameters
18599 [redmine ruby] Issue #565 has been updated by Yui NARUSE.

^ [Bug #566] String encoding error messages are inconsistent
18600 [redmine ruby] Bug #566: String encoding error messages are inconsistent
18604 [matz ruby-la] I am not sure what you mean by "inconsistent".  What are your ideal
18611 [michael.seli] I would expect these to both be "EncodingCompatibilityError"
+ 18615 [akr fsij.org] Regexp is not usable for broken strings because oniguruma don't support them.
+ 20468 [matz ruby-la] Sorry for being late.

^ IO limit - bytes or characters?
18617 [michael.seli] Before getting to the main subject, there is a minor issue with the doc on
18618 [matz ruby-la] Yes.

^ Special warning for UTF-16? (was: Re:  Re: Working on CSV's Encoding Support)
18620 [duerst it.ao] original core for String#encode, and should therefore know best,
+ 18628 [hramrach cen] Can't UTF-16 be just in the host byte order? My guess is that this is
+ 18632 [james graypr] I would be for that, or making UTF-16 an alias for UTF-16BE.
+ 18634 [Tim.Bray Sun] I haven't been involved in this discussion, but in my experience a
  18722 [duerst it.ao] Executive summary: supporting "UTF-16" isn't easy.

^ Request: File.binread (Or File.read_binary)
18631 [gregory.t.br] Just incase it got lost in the other thread, I'd like to recommend the
18670 [matz ruby-la] Defines a exact behavior.  Does it take length or offset option, as
18674 [gregory.t.br] Oh, sorry for not being specific: So long as it makes sense to do so,
18715 [drbrain segm] I have a method in RubyGems to do the same (Gem.read_binary) and I
18717 [james graypr] That's a good idea.  Reading by a byte count less than the full amount
+ 18719 [gregory.t.br] This is specifically about reading binaries though, so there shouldn't
+ 18720 [michael.seli] So far I have found that the best thing to do when reading multi-byte text
  18739 [james graypr] Yes, and the primary parser does.
  18748 [james graypr] This strategy seems to work.  However, avoid my "try a harmless

^ CGI Session IDs
18635 [mail synchro] having recently had to implement some web stuff just using the core
18638 [fuj rabbix.j] This behavior is also bug.

^ Reading non-ascii compatible files
18637 [michael.seli] ruby -v -E UTF-16BE -e "open('/tmp/xx')"
+ 18644 [matz ruby-la] ruby -v -I .ext/i686-linux -E UTF-16LE -e "File.open('/tmp/xx', mode: 'w')"
| + 18645 [michael.seli] Thanks - I didn't know that.
| | 18651 [matz ruby-la] =46rom historical reason, Windows/DOS automagically convert \r\n into \n
| + 18648 [akr fsij.org] File.open doesn't see "mode:" argument.
|   18655 [matz ruby-la] I assume it's a bug.  I will fix.
|   18657 [akr fsij.org] Which?
|   18662 [matz ruby-la] The former.
+ 18646 [akr fsij.org] Ruby converts newlines on ASCII.  There is no chance to do
  18702 [duerst it.ao] Can you explain? Does it mean that on output, UTF-16BE
  18705 [akr fsij.org] ASCII incompatible encoding may be stateful as ISO-2022-JP.
  18769 [duerst it.ao] - There is no need for a converter on output for non-stateful

^ [Bug #572] CGI::Session : ignore session_key and session_id options
18639 [redmine ruby] Bug #572: CGI::Session : ignore session_key and session_id options

^ Character encodings - a radical suggestion
18640 [michael.seli] You might at first glance think that this post should go to ruby-dev, but
+ 18641 [james graypr] I'm not sure I support the pull-them out strategy, but I can confirm =20
| 18675 [hramrach cen] T24gMTcvMDkvMjAwOCwgSmFtZXMgR3JheSA8amFtZXNAZ3JheXByb2R1Y3Rpb25zLm5ldD4gd3Jv
| 18679 [naruse airem] The problem is not "can convert" or "cannot convert".
| 18680 [hramrach cen] Yes, even for the "common www encodings" one cannot convert some
+ 18642 [michael.seli] In my previous mail, I think I made a mistake. I am too used to working in
+ 18643 [james graypr] How ironic=85  I ran into this issue about five minutes ago.  It's =20
| 18647 [michael.seli] Yep, it sure sucks!
| + 18650 [shortcutter ] Which is also what Java does.  I have always found Java's approach to
| | + 18654 [hramrach cen] What is "similar to Unicode without its limitations"? You mean it
| | + 18723 [duerst it.ao] In some sense, this is true, but then this is true for any other encoding
| + 18658 [james graypr] I believe Matz has said in the past that transcoding is what they are
| | 18660 [naruse airem] We can convert "all Shift_JIS characters" to Unicode now.
| | 18663 [matthias wae] Is there a complete characterization of this whole problem? It seems
| | + 18666 [matz ruby-la] stion"
| | | + 18668 [hramrach cen] T24gMTcvMDkvMjAwOCwgWXVraWhpcm8gTWF0c3Vtb3RvIDxtYXR6QHJ1YnktbGFuZy5vcmc+IHdy
| | | | 18669 [matz ruby-la] Yeah!  We should do that!
| | | + 18673 [naruse airem] Emacs-Mule is another encoding which is bigger than Unicode and Ruby supports.
| | | | 18676 [Tim.Bray Sun] They have Private Use Area codepoints for emoji, e.g. http://www.au.kddi.com/ezfactory/tec/spec/img/typeD.pdf
| | | | 18677 [naruse airem] Yes, they have private use area codepoints, but I think they are not reasonable.
| | | | 18756 [duerst it.ao] Just for everybody's information, the Unicode Technical Committee
| | | | 18757 [vincent.isam] Thankfully I think they started to understand it. Recent phones have
| | | + 18678 [Tim.Bray Sun] Also, Mojikyo is much larger than Unicode.
| | | | 18695 [matz ruby-la] Indeed.  I've heard some people used prototype of M17N Ruby to process
| | | + 18728 [duerst it.ao] Thanks for putting it so bluntly. The Europeans did similar things
| | |   18729 [matz ruby-la] Indeed.  And we'd like to help people's life easier (using Unicode).
| | |   18732 [michael.seli] I assume that you are referring to my suggestion to remove support for
| | |   + 18733 [matz ruby-la] No, I was referring the past proposal like "abandon all M17N and
| | |   + 18734 [matz ruby-la] No, I was referring the past proposals like "abandon all M17N and
| | |   | + 18742 [dave pragpro] I'm no expert in any of this, but I wonder if part of the problem
| | |   | | + 18744 [matz ruby-la] That what we thought.  Limited support for UTF-16 and dummy encodings
| | |   | | | 18755 [akr fsij.org] I defined stateless-ISO-20222-JP which is semantically same
| | |   | | + 18747 [Tim.Bray Sun] +1  -Tim
| | |   | | + 18753 [duerst it.ao] As far as I understand, that was the original plan.
| | |   | |   18754 [matz ruby-la] Jo.
| | |   | + 18746 [Tim.Bray Sun] Actually, I think it would be perfectly OK to remove runtime support
| | |   | | 18759 [meta pobox.c] I agree with this. I haven't looked at Ruby 1.9, but I don't see any point
| | |   | + 18751 [michael.seli] No problem - it appears I misunderstood you, sorry. Easy to happen with
| | |   |   18761 [matz ruby-la] Yes, even though they are minor.
| | |   |   + 18770 [duerst it.ao] Just for general information, this doesn't specifically refer to
| | |   |   + 18774 [michael.seli] I infer from this that really Unicode is the only (imperfect) solution for
| | |   + 18736 [james graypr] I took that as a joke and laughed when I read it.  I think matz has a
| | |   | 18737 [halostatue g] GMail tells me that, at least in this thread, Tim Bray is the one who
| | |   + 18745 [Tim.Bray Sun] To be fair, I think the "Unicode whiners" thing is a joke that I
| | + 18682 [halostatue g] While there is a private use plane, it's not generally interoperable
| |   + 18691 [michael.seli] I nearly agree with you, except that these days "day-to-day" work can
| |   + 18730 [duerst it.ao] Very much agreed. Private use areas (a small area in the BMP
| |     18735 [halostatue g] I'm not disagreeing with you in principle, but even if the complaints
| + 18726 [duerst it.ao] [most of this mail, and some others, was written Wednesday,
+ 18649 [akr fsij.org] ISO-2022-JP is another example.
+ 18664 [matz ruby-la] What happens with non Unicode text under your suggestion?
| + 18681 [michael.seli] Thanks for all the replies - I am not an expert on all these encodings,
| | + 18684 [shyouhei rub] Have you read Matz's post abount yen sign problem?  Converter IS a
| | | + 18685 [michael.seli] Yes I have read it.
| | | | + 18686 [james graypr] Hey, I know character encodings are hard.  I'm still trying to get CSV
| | | | | + 18687 [Tim.Bray Sun] Well, yes, as long as Ruby will let me get at the codepoints
| | | | | | + 18688 [james graypr] Is unpack("U*") not meeting that need?  I'm not trying to be a jerk,
| | | | | | | 18690 [Tim.Bray Sun] In fact, that produces the correct answer, and it's what I actually
| | | | | | + 18694 [matz ruby-la] OK, now Ruby 1.9 has String#each_codepoint and understands \p{Lu} for
| | | | | |   + 18704 [james graypr] Thanks for putting up with all our whining about encodings Matz.  We
| | | | | |   + 18709 [Tim.Bray Sun] The community of Unicode whiners says "thank you" to the community of
| | | | | + 18693 [michael.seli] I agree with you. And if I am coming across as being a jerk or too dogmatic,
| | | | |   18696 [matz ruby-la] You have pointed out important issue here, I think.  Let me think
| | | | + 18700 [shyouhei rub] We are *designing* a car now.  Don't you need a seatbelt because you'll
| | | + 18725 [duerst it.ao] The yen sign problem is indeed a big problem. It's similar to the
| | + 18692 [matz ruby-la] I am sorry that life is not that easy.
| |   18697 [michael.seli] I/O is only one way I can get data.
| + 18727 [duerst it.ao] The problem here is that it would be much better if we could
+ 18724 [duerst it.ao] If it's in English, it should be ruby-core, not ruby-dev, as far as I
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