From haskell-jp=return=sinara=blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp@quickml.com Mon May 10 18:00:54 2004 X-cmail-status: Active X-UIDL: ^fb!!nde"!U>e"!Vd2"! Return-Path: Received: from kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp (kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.24]) by blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id i4A90sZu020186 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:54 +0900 Received: from funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp (funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.201]) by kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DCF57C6 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost.nagaokaut.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3C8F04837 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:58 +0900 (JST) Received: from voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp (voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.1.100]) by funfun.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE20F04850 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from master.quickml.com (219-106-226-205.cust.bit-drive.ne.jp [219.106.226.205]) by voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6574963002D for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from master.quickml.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by master.quickml.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EA01F30B3; Mon, 10 May 2004 17:54:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from master.quickml.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (QuickML) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 May 2004 17:54:01 +0900 Received: from ranran.nagaokaut.ac.jp (ranran.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.25]) by master.quickml.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42C61F30B3 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 17:54:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from sav1.nagaokaut.ac.jp (sav1.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.22]) by ranran.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF1C466935 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:45 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost.nagaokaut.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by sav1.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7EE15A81F for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from smtp.nagaokaut.ac.jp (smtp.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.37]) by sav1.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832DD15A868 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:46 +0900 (JST) Received: from blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp (blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.98.95]) by smtp.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id 877D551596D for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:46 +0900 (JST) Received: from BOOK.blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp (book.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.98.97]) by blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id i4A90gZv020155 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 18:00:42 +0900 Message-Id: <6.0.0.20.2.20040510173956.03b06e38@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6J-Jr1 rev2 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:49:57 +0900 To: haskell-jp@quickml.com From: Shin-ichiro HARA In-Reply-To: <20040508.180601.41635793.nobsun@sampou.org> References: <20040508070454.17CFE773D@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> <20040508.180601.41635793.nobsun@sampou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 Subject: [haskell-jp:347] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJWIlSiVJJEMkRhsoQj8=?= Reply-To: haskell-jp@quickml.com X-Mail-Count: 347 Precedence: bulk X-ML-Address: haskell-jp@quickml.com X-ML-Name: haskell-jp X-ML-Info: http://QuickML.COM/ X-QuickML: true X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 Status: RO 原です。 >Haskell の Monad関連ライブラリにあるものの使い方や解説は、 >Jeff Newbern の "All about Monads" というのがあったのですが。。。 私にはこれが分かりやすかったです。 >-- 実はとちゅうまで翻訳したのですが、うまく訳せずに、ほったらかしてる >-- うちに、原文が辿れなくなっていますねぇ。 なんで原文がなくなったのかな残念だな。 ところで「モナドって何」っていう質問に、なんで一言でばしっと答えら れないんですかね。私も、分からないうちは「分かるようになったら、初 心者に分かりやすく教えてあげよう」なんて殊勝な事を考えていたんです が、分かってみると「めんどくせー」になってしまいました。あるいは、 圏論がどうのこうのとか不必要な話で煙にまいてとか性格の悪さ全開にな ってしまったり。モナドの呪いかなんかですかね。 ウィキベディアぐらいの分量で分かりやすくモナドを分かりやすく説明す るコンテストとかするのはどうでしょう。商品は、、、熱海一泊ぐらい？ （nobsun 自腹で？） -- ML: haskell-jp@quickml.com 使い方: http://QuickML.com/