Ben Tilly wrote: # As a long-time member of the Perl community I have to # say that ActiveState has earned my distrust upon # multiple occasions. They wish to be the One True # Source of everything. This sometimes conflicts with # the needs of the community. Well, years ago, in an earlier programming life working elsewhere on other things, I found ActiveState's support of Perl on Windows to be extremely useful. On the other hand, it was somewhat troubling that they had forked off a somewhat incompatible version of Perl that was only later re-merged at the urgings of (Tim) O'Reilly and others, IIRC. # Ask me some time about the speculation on why Perl # 5.6.1 is over 6 months late but the important bugs in # it have all been fixed in the (binary only) releases # from ActiveState. 5.6.0 is unusable. :-( OK, I'm asking. I can hazard a guess, but I'm also curious why *others* haven't fixed such things in the source. Is someone from ActiveState the pumpkin holder or something? Are there (or do you expect) similar problems with Python? Also, what do you think it would take to get ActiveState to support Ruby on Windows to the same extent that they do for Python and Perl, in addition to the .Net and Komodo stuff? And what would you recommend that the Ruby community do to protect itself from the potential downside of such a development? (Speaking of .Net, FWIW, there was mention on comp.lang.python that in addition to the important GUI libraries, MS was also witholding important DB libraries from the open standardization process.) Conrad Schneiker (This note is unofficial and subject to improvement without notice.)