Phil Tomson wrote: > But I didn't find them in there... Which makes me wonder if it's even > possible to output them this way. I know that to get them in HTML you > use ® and ™ `puts 174.chr` gives me a little (R) symbol that's rather difficult to read, and `puts 153.chr` gives me a dotted square - so I guess it depends on what terminal font you're using. I assume you're wanting to do this in a terminal window? The answer probably is that there's no guaranteed portable way to do it except for "(R)" and "(TM)". Tim. -- Tim Bates tim / bates.id.au