Hi -- Anyone who posts directly to ruby-talk (which is probably the only people who will see this :-) it would be very helpful if you could check on Google Groups to see whether or not your messages, especially recent ones (past month or so) have been making it through to Usenet. (Advanced Search makes this quite easy.) Please let me know by email what you find, and I'll forward the results to Dennis. Thanks -- David -- David A. Black dblack / wobblini.net