Hi -- Since messages on ruby-talk aren't getting through to comp.lang.ruby, I thought I should post directly here and let people know what they're missing :-) You can see the full extent of discussion at <http://www.ruby-talk.org>. I'm afraid I've lost track of who's operating the gateway these days, but any info on its status would be appreciated. Thanks -- David -- David Alan Black home: dblack / wobblini.net # New email address work: blackdav / shu.edu Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav