Lothar Scholz <mailinglists / scriptolutions.com> wrote in message news:<7516975309.20040201203323 / scriptolutions.com>... > > Smalltalk is also dying or better becaming less and less attrictive. > Same as lisp where only Franz Lisp is still competitive in some areas. > In fact in commerical areas Smalltalk is much more dead then Eiffel. Those of us (and there are quite a few) who use Smalltalk for commercial development daily find such statements very amusing. As a simple data point, there are currently at least five commercial Smalltalk vendors (IBM, Cincom, Object Arts, Gemstone, Exept). That's an awful lot of companies to be selling a dead language - I wonder how they support all those development teams if nobody is buying their product? Ruby is not going to die just because it's not #1 most popular scripting language, any more than Apple is going to die because they only have a couple of % of the PC market. Network effects matter, but Ruby is well beyond the critical mass it needs to survive. In fact, Ruby is now too popular for my personal taste - I prefer the energy in slightly smaller communities than Ruby's has become. The price of success... Avi