Hello Dan, Monday, February 2, 2004, 6:00:37 AM, you wrote: DD> Okay, we'd like to use Ruby at work. For this, Ruby needs DD> critical mass. DD> Threads like this don't really help Ruby gain mass. What DD> should we do? I don't think an aggressive Ruby marketing DD> campaign is in order, unless someone wants to spend lots DD> of money. DD> What can the Ruby community really do except continue to DD> write Ruby code? RubyForge says it hosts 152 projects. DD> As people write more Ruby code, more people will come and DD> write more Ruby code and so on. Ruby may gain critical DD> mass in the future. It just isn't there yet. Whats about cooperation instead of competition in the ruby world ? The raa-installer vs. ruby-gems is one of the places where energy is spend that could be used better. I also see lots of libraries in competition to each other but not in competition to some python/perl libraries, simply because they are to weak to be a competitor. If ruby is so a superior OO language, why is it so complicated to extend/change an already existing library ? The Ruby-Gem thread was one of the reasons why i started looking at the statistics on sourceforge. -- Best regards, Lothar mailto:mailinglists / scriptolutions.com