Hey, i spend 30 minutes by checking the statistics page of popular and well known ruby and python projects. The result is a real fiasco for ruby in some areas. For example Jython 100 <-> Jruby 4 Ruby GTK 15 (FXRuby 8) <-> WxPython 700 Ruby DBI 70 <-> mysql-python 150 i also checked a lot of other packages but could find comparable ones. But the numbers are the same. And when you compare the newsgroups comp.lang.python<->comp.lang.ruby you see the same. clr seems to be more code philosophical questions where clp is about developing software. So do you think the difference is the same. For my website i can only confirm that it is at least a 4:1 for python.