Hi, I've been following this thread and the thread concerning the class << self construct with some interest, but not a thorough understanding. If I'm considering these various remarks at least partly correctly (which is highly questionable, since I'm both fairly new to Ruby and fairly rusty in Objective-C), then it seems to me that these types of facilities would greatly ease a coder's ability to incorporate the sweet old Objective-C idea of "class clusters"...and to make them even more dynamic, possibly tuning class clusters at runtime, or even creating them from scratch. Just my $0.02...and I hope I haven't made a complete fool of myself...again: new to Ruby, rusty in Obj-C, and any other disclaimers I can think of... - dan self << "David A. Black" <dblack / wobblini.net> wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0311291817060.24317-100000 / wobblini.net... > Hi -- > > I think part of the trouble people have with > the concept of Class objects having instance variables is that they > (wrongly but understandably) surmise that there must be some relation > or connection with class variables. > > > David > > -- > David A. Black > dblack / wobblini.net > >