> which to me has a bit of a "spliced onto the language" feel (which > perhaps it is, but it would still be nice to avoid that feel :-) I > like the simplicity and symmetry of separate def/pre/post. You've got my vote for looks. But it means two extra keywords which breaks extra stuff, and I'm not fond of that. But 2.0 is allowed to break stuff :-) so my vote stands. Peter