"Mike Henley" <mnhenley / msn.com> wrote in message news:6005702b.0309020727.4ba46e78 / posting.google.com... > I first came across rebol a while ago; it seemed interesting but then > i was put off by its proprietary nature, although the core of the > language is a free download. > > Recently however, i can't help but say i was totally impressed. I > needed an open source wikiblog/wikilog, whatever you wanna call it, > basically a hybrid of a blog and a wiki. I checked out snipsnap, which > uses java, it was said on their site to be a clone of vanilla, a > wikilog written with rebol. I wanted an open source thing so i could > modify it to my needs. > > snipsnap turned out to be, even apparent on the first day of use, way > too far from being mature and reliable, and although they said it > doesn't require a server, it required a download of the sun java sdk, > which, when installed, was well over 400Mbs of space on my hard drive. > Not to mention another over 100Mbs for the JVM. > > So as i needed a mature enough solution, but liked the way snipsnap > worked, i looked around, and on freshmeat i found vanilla, with a > development status of 5; production/stable. I went to its site, where > a working demo impressed with its capabilities. The site is though > poorly documented, very poorly documented i had to use trial and error > to work out how to install it. Anyhow, what impressed me was that the > download, which was less than half a megabyte, installed vanilla, > which is the wikilog, an apache server, and the rebol interpreter, > which is the free download version. And it self-installed! It turned > out to be a very very capable wikilog, and highly extensible. I am > still amazed and impressed by it after a couple of days of use. > > Rebol itself seemed a very easy to read language. Sorta like ho > readable SQL is. I might even say more readable than python or ruby, > or at least as readable. > > I have the intention to learn it over the coming few days, at least to > customize vanilla to my needs. > > So i ask you guys, what's wrong with Rebol? i mean other than it's > proprietary nature. 'cos anyway, there are many commercial IDEs for > open source languages, and if smitten enough i might even consider a > rebol SDK. It just amazes me for how readable it is, how much it seems > to enable to do with so little code, and the size and capability of > the final solution. > > What's wrong with Rebol? I don't know that there's anything "wrong" with it, other than it's a special purpose language designed to fit in one niche, and do its job well (at least in the eyes of its designers.) I'm not about to download a humongous reference manual to compare it with Python. If it serves your needs, go for it. John Roth