"Joseph McDonald" <joe / vpop.net> wrote in message news:NEBBLGCJOMNNCGJHPGMMAEAJEEAA.joe / vpop.net... > > I couldn't even find nice method name for those two, so I didn't > > follow up that post. maybe native english speakers can came up with > > nice name. > > deepfreeze ? unalterable ? foreverfreeze ? eternalfreeze ? permafrost =) Ken