On Friday, August 22, 2003, 4:14:22 AM, Sean wrote: > Keep those separate though. My suggestion can be conducted by you going > around and doing your own search for Ruby ex-patriates. My opinion > about what you will find should be ignored. Go prove me wrong. From http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?PythonVsRuby Yes. I like Ruby better than Python (though lately I've become dissatisfied with both of them), but occasionally beginners have asked me for a recommendation for a first programming language, and I always tell them, "Smalltalk or Python." -- AdamSpitz But so what? No matter how great you and I think Ruby is (and how right we are ;-) there will always be people who: - have the right mental mould to really enjoy a language like OCaml or Smalltalk or Haskell or ... - happen to come across Ruby first and/or foremost - get into their true love of a language later and leave Ruby behind And I'm greatful for the existence of these people: they always seem to be smarter than me, and inject some interesting things into the Ruby community, be it code or discussions, and cause me to learn things about other languages that I ordinarily wouldn't. Gavin, who is - reading Alan Kay's "The Early History of Smalltalk" on the train - reading a good OCaml tutorial in breaks at work - stuck programming Java for a living