Steve Tuckner wrote: > I didn't do the google search but I know of two people who have been on this > list and have left for other languages/environments: > > one to Squeak > one to O'Caml > > While Ruby is wonderful to program in, it is not the end-all, be-all for all > people and all projects. No, but it may be the be-all and end-all for scripting languages, at least for the moment? Squeak isn't a scripting language. I just tried it out last night and it's really interesting, but from what I was able to determine, because it all runs in a VM image, there is no easy way of writing a script that does something like "check a project out of CVS and make sure it builds cleanly". Then again, I have exactly 4 hours of experience with Squeak so maybe I'm completely off. As for OCaml, it's a compiled language, isn't it? No interpreter, no shell...? Doing the low level hardware bit shuffling I'm doing isn't something Ruby works well for either, so I'm doing that in C, but I have yet to find something to challenge it in its domain. Ben