Well, I'm just a ruby beginner (and perl beginner too), and I know C fairly well, but I must say that for me Perl is almost unusable, whereas Ruby is perfect ! Ok I use Ruby for rather simple tasks... I use Awk very often for text "formating", and I use Python to embed C routines. I plan to use Ruby to replace both. And I insist, for me it's not simply a joke to say perl is too complicated. I tried to learn, and I don't think I'm too stupid or too lazy. If you remember TECO, you will have a good basis for comparison ;-)