On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 07:14 PM, Hal E. Fulton wrote: [snip] <offtopic> > When I was working on _The Ruby Way_ and gathering quotations > to intersperse in the material -- and I admit some of these > are kind of hokey -- I was thumbing through the writings of > Confucius. No, seriously. And I found a quote that I almost > used, that reminded me of duck typing: "If an urn does not > have the properties of an urn, can it truly be said to be > an urn?" :) That may be wrong, it's from memory. Intriguing, > though, isn't it? Predates Bishop Berkely, John Locke, > Immanuel Kant by 2000 years. Perhaps even predates Plato. > My history isn't that good. > </offtopic> > [snip] Confucius died in 479 B.C. and Plato was born in 428 B.C., so yes he predates Plato. Other quotes from The Analects: 1. Lord Chi Wen thought three times before taking any action. When the Master heard this, he said: "Twice is plenty enough." [Agile Programming] 2. The Master said: "Language is insight itself." [Ruby] 3. The Master said: "If things far away don't concern you, you'll soon mourn things close at hand." [Lesson learned, September 11, 2001] Regards, Mark