I just spotted these two snippets of Ruby recognition on the Apple Xserve product page (http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/web.html): 1. "...any number of custom applicatons from web development tools such as PHP, MySQL, JSP or Ruby." 2. "Mac OS X Server now supports Ruby, a simple and powerful object-oriented programming language along the veins of Perl" Not bad at all. Well, besides being lumped in with Perl, perhaps :) / David