On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:29:32 +0900, Josef 'Jupp' Schugt wrote: > * Rasputin; 2003-07-25, 10:42 UTC: >> That's what cygwin is for - everybody needs a shell sometimes, and >> command.com is unusable. > As far as shell is concerned the MKS toolkit also does a good job. Sorry, I disagree on both. I have and use Cygwin (and I've used MKS in the past), and they're ultimately useless for my needs. I won't run a server process in them. Ever. I prefer not to deal with client processes in them, either, as they don't respect the full capabilities of my operating system. The only reason that I have Cygwin on my system is for the occasional gcc compile. -austin -- austin ziegler * austin / halostatue.ca * Toronto, ON, Canada software designer * pragmatic programmer * 2003.07.28 * 01.22.35