Tony Summerfelt writes: # On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:30:32 +0900, Conrad Schneiker wrote: # # > that Ajuba no longer exists and no longer is supporting it. # # what kind of support were you looking for? In the sense of Ajuba supporting full time developers committed to developing new releases of Tcl/Tk. # tcl/tk hasn't been abandoned...it's actively being developed... OK, let's say that Tcl/Tk's corporate sponsor/parent/guardian has passed away and that Tcl/Tk is now is completely dependent on the kindness of friends. How well it will thrive is an open question. I only occasionally sample comp.lang.tcl, but after Ajuba's passing, I saw an unsettling number of "if you want/expect to see feature XYZ, you should step in and implement it yourself" sorts of comments. # if you need/want to pay money for tcl/tk support, i think you'll # find everything you want on comp.lang.tcl That's not quite what I think the Ruby world is interested in with respect to the future use of Tk. # i was a bit suprised reading your post, i hadn't noticed any change # in the level of 'support' Well, I was writing about Ajuba's (developmental) support, not newgroup assistance. Ajuba's developmental support of Tcl/Tk was certainly a *major* factor in the past (albeit not the only one), and its passing is certain to have *some* significant impact on ongoing development; whether the change in "momentum" becomes evident sooner or later, or whether the change in "momentum" is large or small, still remains to be seen. Conrad Schneiker (This note is unofficial and subject to improvement without notice.)