Plus, as with anything, it is a trickle up effect. Perl was not embraced by the CEO's, it was embraced by their employees. Now it ~is~ a standard enforced from the top because it has been "proven" to do the job. (I won't comment on Java...that has a different "acceptance" track hehe) There is also the question of how long "corporate America" has as "the standard". No more than a few decades, perhaps, since it is strongly tied to a centralized object model in a world that is increasingly embracing decentralization. Again this is a grass roots pehnomenon and not one enforced by any kind of instituional authority. The adoption of programming models is as much a social issue as a techinical one. Programs are, after all, a form of interpersonal communication, and the languages are building blocks. Just some thoughts. Warm regards, Kent Starr elderburn / mindspring.com On Sat, 09 Dec 2000, you wrote: > Developers and their organizations all over the world are looking for > the same thing: a way to produce applications that is simple, > reliable, repeatable, and enjoyable. Different folks have differing > ideas on ways of doing this. > > For many developers, Ruby resonates with the way they think. Unlike > many other languages, Ruby allows them to express themselves more > directly, and more concisely. Shortening the distance from thought to > code is a key component in achieving a rapid, accurate development > flow. > > However, this is truly a personal thing. Some people think most > clearly using Smalltalk, or Lisp, or Java, or C++. If they've given > Ruby an honest try, and found that it doesn't help them, that I > personally appreciate their effort and wish them well. > > I don't think the Ruby community is out to conquer corporate > America. I'd guess we're here because Ruby satisfies each of our > personal needs for a better language. We're welcoming new developers > all the time. But it remains and individual thing. > > > Regards > > > Dave