Are you sure about that?  I've met all kinds...

At 19:03 10/04/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>Mike Wyer wrote:
>>Did no-one ever tell you that nothing worthwhile is ever easy? :)
>>(other than learning ruby, of course)
>
>Licking your own elbow is not easy but it can hardly be called worthwhile.
>
>To take another quote out of context:
>   "If it hurts then you are probably doing it wrong"
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