On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 00:57, William Djaja Tjokroaminata wrote: > Hal E. Fulton <hal9000 / hypermetrics.com> wrote: > > [...] It turns out, yes, > > it is arbitrary (like our base-ten system)... and yet > > not arbitrary at all. It has to do with things "working > > out" mathematically in a "nice" way. [...] On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 00:57, William Djaja Tjokroaminata wrote: > [...] So > when a string with fundamental tone C1 is played, actually we get all > these overtones: > > C1 C2 G2 C3 E3 G3 B&3 C4 ... > > Therefore, although it is true we can create any arbitrary scale, my guess > is that they will not sound as natural... (probably I should some day > experiment this in my Roland synthesizer...) Notes whose ratio of frequencies are small integer fractions sound "pleasing" to our ears. For example, three notes whose frequencies have the following ratios ... 1 5/4 3/2 make a pleasing sound called a major chord. If the frequency of the root note is 440 Hz (an A note), then an A major chord has the following frequencies ... A 440 1/1 C# 550 5/4 E 660 3/2 It turns out, that if we divide an octave into twelve equal steps (musicians call the steps "half-steps" ... go figure), then we have the following values for frequencies and approximate ratios for each of the half steps ... APPROX NOTE FREQ RATIO ERROR A = 440.00 1 / 1 (0.0000) A# = 466.16 10 / 9 (0.0516) B = 493.88 9 / 8 (0.0025) C = 523.25 6 / 5 (0.0108) C# = 554.37 5 / 4 (0.0099) D = 587.33 4 / 3 (0.0015) D# = 622.25 7 / 5 (0.0142) E = 659.26 3 / 2 (0.0017) F = 698.46 8 / 5 (0.0126) F# = 739.99 5 / 3 (0.0151) G = 783.99 9 / 5 (0.0182) G# = 830.61 11 / 6 (0.0544) A = 880.00 2 / 1 (0.0000) With the tweleve equal steps, the A, C# And E notes turn out to have (almost) the right frequency ratios to make the pleasing major chord sound. This system of notes (where all the ratio between half steps is constant) is called "Equal Tempered". The big advantage to equal tempering is all scales sound equally good (or bad), no matter where you start. Most instruments today are equal tempered. But equal tempering is not perfect. The ratios are off just a little bit. Back in the old days (i.e. Bach's time), there was a great deal of effort spent on finding the best possible tempering. The problem was that a tempering that sounded great in the key of C would sound REALLY aweful in a different key. A "Well Tempered" tuning is one that maximizes the keys that sound good. Different keys had slightly different feelings to them (so I am told ... _my_ ear could never hear the difference). That (at least in part) is why so many classical pieces announce their key in the title (e.g. Concerto in B flat major, or whatever). My understanding is that when Bach wrote "The Well Tempered Clavier", he used a tuning of his own design. Bill> (probably I should some day experiment this in my Roland Bill> synthesizer...) When I was playing around with synthesizer (mumble mumble) years ago, I recall seeing programs that would setup the synth in well tempered tunings. You might want to check that out. Finally, to make sure we don't get too far off topic, here is the Ruby program I used to generate the frequency list ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ #!/usr/bin/env ruby HALFSTEP = 2 ** (1.0/12.0) def freq(tonic, halfsteps) tonic * HALFSTEP**(halfsteps) end def close_ratio(f) n = 1 d = 1 best = [n, d, 10*100] while n+d < 20 ratio = (n.to_f / d.to_f) delta = (f - ratio).abs best = [n, d, delta] if delta < best[2] if ratio > f d += 1 else n += 1 end end best end def show_note(sym, val, tonic) printf "%-2s = %6.2f %2d / %2d (%6.4f)\n", sym, val, *close_ratio(val / tonic) end A=440.0 %w(A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A).each_with_index do |name, index| show_note(name, freq(A,index), A) end ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- -- Jim Weirich jweirich / one.net http://w3.one.net/~jweirich --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)