I was talking to an editor at Manning the other day, and he mentioned a couple of things that might be of interest. First, they're interested in doing one or more ruby books. He says they're seeing it more and more, and in different places, so it's looking like a good time to dip their feet in the water. Second (and maybe interesting to more people), they recently saw Tim O'Reilly using some numbers culled from Amazon services. They'd like to get their own tool for doing amazon.com based research. Since I work for amazon, and can't really write a program like this for conflict of interest reasons, I recommended that they hire someone to write the tool for them (in Ruby). Clay said that I could go ahead and post a request. If anyone is interested in taking him up on this, let me know and I'll get you contact information (it may take until Monday for me to get back to you, my weekend is pretty full). -pate Pat Eyler Kaitiaki/manager migrant Linux sys admin the Koha project ruby, shell, and perl geek http://www.koha.org http://pate.eylerfamily.org