Well, it's been my observation that the "down and dirty" languages make it. C is one of those -- it gives much freedom; Pascal (made for teaching students programming) is strongly-typed. In other words, a pain. FORTRAN because it was the first; COBOL because it appealed to suits. Assembler because it rulez!!! ;-> I hope Ruby is one that frees programmers. From the conversations on ruby-talk, this appears to be the case. I slipped Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP into a staid corporate environment. It plus Jabber became the intranet for the company I worked for. > Hello Ted, > > Thursday, December 12, 2002, 2:00:28 AM, you wrote: > > >> 2. Java is in vogue. They want the language to be there after 10-20 > >> years... > > T> Unfortunately, people rise in management by NOT making waves... > > it's the MATZ'S position that Ruby will never be REAL WORLD language. > it's his own toy and never will appreciate features needed for > corporate use > > > -- > Best regards, > Bulat mailto:bulatz / integ.ru > > >