On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 09:02:32AM +0900, Mike Campbell wrote: > >> Perhaps you should introduce... > > Out of curiosity, in a XP kind of mindset, do you guys who are writing this > stuff *HAVE* a "not yet programmer" to go through and test what you write > and give you feedback? I had a "not yet programmer" handy some time ago... my sister (she was 15 at that time). I introduced her to Ruby with a tutorial I wrote in Spanish, but I sadly did not finish it (but I wrote enough to introduce objects, classes, methods, expressions, statements, control structures, et cetera, all with examples/exercises) I'm meeting her this Xmas, and will get my tutorial back, so I might translate it to English. It had some drawbacks as * I was (am) very confident in the ability of my sister to learn, so I didn't make it too basic * I do admittedly tend to write (and read) _heavy_ (boring?) documents, as I'm biased towards reference material. This tutorial passed the real-world test of being read by a non-programmer, so when I get to have it again (in less than 3 weeks time) I might try to summarize some ideas for you, just in case it can help you. > Having an[other] experienced programmer tell you what's confusing or not > seems to me to be rather academic. I did several corrections to my tutorial based on feedback from my sister :) > Not a criticism in any way of the great work you're doing mind you! > -- _ _ | |__ __ _| |_ ___ _ __ ___ __ _ _ __ | '_ \ / _` | __/ __| '_ ` _ \ / _` | '_ \ | |_) | (_| | |_\__ \ | | | | | (_| | | | | |_.__/ \__,_|\__|___/_| |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_| Running Debian GNU/Linux Sid (unstable) batsman dot geo at yahoo dot com ..you could spend *all day* customizing the title bar. Believe me. I speak from experience. -- Matt Welsh