Hi -- On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Daniel Carrera wrote: > > I feel a little frustrated with Ruby's documentation. I like the > > companion book "The Pragmatic Programmer". However, it is apparently not > > good enough to be a online manual. May be because I'm completely new to > > Ruby. > > I am completely new to Ruby, and I echo your frustration. There should be > a book intended to introduce Ruby to newbies. Have you looked at "Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days" (from Sams)? > I'd also like to see a book for people who don't know OO. I've programmed > for several years, but I don't know OO. Ruby is my first OO language. I > find that the current book jumps into classes before it's covered the > basics like flow-control, functions and variables. I still figured it > out, but it was harder than it could have been. It also starts on > iterators before explaining more basic syntas. The 'Class#method' syntax > and a couple other things are not explained either. > > There could be a chapter or two for people who simply have never > programmed before. There's nothing wrong with starting classes sooner > than you would in another language, but it still should come after more > basic things. To go from never having programmed, to a full understanding of everything in the Pickaxe book, would require more than you could get from a couple of introductory chapters added to the book. However... the idea of having first-time programmer books that use Ruby is a good one. I believe there's at least one such book among the 23 Japanese books on Ruby, and I know there's been discussion of doing such a thing in English (as well as related things, like a book along those lines specifically targeted at children), but I'm not sure who's working on what right now. David -- David Alan Black home: dblack / candle.superlink.net work: blackdav / shu.edu Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav