Okay, "very convenient" was a stupid way of putting it. I like "x++" because it makes me think about the code I'm wirting differently. It's not because I'm typing less. It's because I use ++ in some circunstances and += in others in such a way that I feel my code sends a clearer message. I use ++ for counters and indices, and += when the numerical value has a greater significance (even if I end up writing "+= 1"). So, I'd like to replace what I said by "I like it a lot". Still, why doesn't Ruby include it? You can hardly say it's confusing. Daniel.